Layers working bad - restriction toogles are not stored and reseting #104209

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ManBlender · 2023-01-29T01:42:11+01:00

ManBlender commented

2023-01-29 01:42:11 +01:00

System Information
Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.22000-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Ti/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 527.41

Blender Version
Broken: version: 3.4.0, branch: blender-v3.4-release, commit date: 2022-12-06 18:46, hash: a95bf1ac01
Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected)

Short description of error
When creating new layers and selecting/deselecting restriction toggles, then after change layer restriction toogles are not stored and resetting (especially disable in viewport, render, hide in viewport is more often stored).

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error
I'm working with many collections, and trying manage many layers, creating new, etc.
On test I just have problem with 3 layers, but around 20 collections.
Each switch between Layer 1 and change settings, then Layer 2 or 3 have changed disable in viewport, render but not hide in viewport.
Again fix around Layer 2 or 3 back to Layer 1 ang changes here, then again Layer 2 or 3 are broken.
The behavior is unexpected.

**System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.22000-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Ti/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 527.41 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 3.4.0, branch: blender-v3.4-release, commit date: 2022-12-06 18:46, hash: `a95bf1ac01` Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected) **Short description of error** When creating new layers and selecting/deselecting restriction toggles, then after change layer restriction toogles are not stored and resetting (especially disable in viewport, render, hide in viewport is more often stored). **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** I'm working with many collections, and trying manage many layers, creating new, etc. On test I just have problem with 3 layers, but around 20 collections. Each switch between Layer 1 and change settings, then Layer 2 or 3 have changed disable in viewport, render but not hide in viewport. Again fix around Layer 2 or 3 back to Layer 1 ang changes here, then again Layer 2 or 3 are broken. The behavior is unexpected.

ManBlender commented

2023-01-29 01:42:11 +01:00

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Pratik Borhade commented

2023-01-30 02:20:00 +01:00

Added subscriber: @PratikPB2123

Pratik Borhade commented

2023-01-30 02:20:00 +01:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'

Pratik Borhade commented

2023-01-30 02:20:00 +01:00

Hi, are you referring to particular restriction toggle property here?
Perhaps #87111 (Objects do not retain View State when turning Collections Off then back On)

Hi, are you referring to particular restriction toggle property here? Perhaps #87111 (Objects do not retain View State when turning Collections Off then back On)

ManBlender commented

2023-01-30 11:16:02 +01:00

Yes, looks similar issue nut I experience more wide problems around as no control around this all states.

Pratik Borhade commented

2023-01-30 11:45:37 +01:00

Could you specify those problem more precisely in report?
Provided steps in the description are not very clear to me.

Could you specify those problem more precisely in report? Provided steps in the description are not very clear to me.

ManBlender commented

2023-01-30 12:32:41 +01:00

Let we say.. that have car, and many variations like sport, classic and related stuff around as parts to hide or show in each layer.
When adding manipulate this in version sport, eg. rims related to this version, then collection tirrs is hidden in case I not touched this on classic.
Then fixing on classic this tires and on sport something other is hidden in case I not touched this, not modified, etc. and again.. fixing here eg. mirrors version in classic, and on sport discovering other changes.

It's hard to explain coz I not understanding the why this happening, what is case for this relations.
I adding file where this can be observed. It was possible to repeat the behavior in some examples - I adding video.
https://recordit.co/vykJxyBNCp

layer_test.blend

Let we say.. that have car, and many variations like sport, classic and related stuff around as parts to hide or show in each layer. When adding manipulate this in version sport, eg. rims related to this version, then collection tirrs is hidden in case I not touched this on classic. Then fixing on classic this tires and on sport something other is hidden in case I not touched this, not modified, etc. and again.. fixing here eg. mirrors version in classic, and on sport discovering other changes. It's hard to explain coz I not understanding the why this happening, what is case for this relations. I adding file where this can be observed. It was possible to repeat the behavior in some examples - I adding video. https://recordit.co/vykJxyBNCp [layer_test.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F14213357/layer_test.blend)

Pratik Borhade commented

2023-02-16 14:33:57 +01:00

Hi, I think I understood the issue you're explaining. This is not a bug though.
Hide in viewport is layer level property (individual for each object in each layer)
While other properties such as Disable in viewport, Disable in Renders are mapped to objects, their state is stored in object itself (that's why editing the toggle in one layer reflects the change in another layer).
Closing this report. Feel free to comment if there is misunderstanding from my side.

Hi, I think I understood the issue you're explaining. This is not a bug though. `Hide in viewport` is layer level property (individual for each object in each layer) While other properties such as `Disable in viewport`, `Disable in Renders` are mapped to objects, their state is stored in object itself (that's why editing the toggle in one layer reflects the change in another layer). Closing this report. Feel free to comment if there is misunderstanding from my side.

Pratik Borhade closed this issue

2023-02-16 14:33:58 +01:00

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labels 2023-02-16 14:33:58 +01:00

ManBlender commented

2023-02-16 17:38:47 +01:00

The explanation have no sense in my opinion, coz then the Layer is not useful in this case to manage. And the properties can't be stored then in object (if now in this way is done) but in layer then, as related matrix for each object, or only if status is other as visible in array.
Worst.. as random case for this what is hidden or not after changes.

The explanation have no sense in my opinion, coz then the Layer is not useful in this case to manage. And the properties can't be stored then in object (if now in this way is done) but in layer then, as related matrix for each object, or only if status is other as visible in array. Worst.. as random case for this what is hidden or not after changes.

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Layers working bad - restriction toogles are not stored and reseting #104209