Cycles rendering mode crashes the entire program AMD OpenCL #81075

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Edson · 2020-09-23T03:04:11+02:00

Edson commented

2020-09-23 03:04:11 +02:00

System Information
Operating system: Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit Latest Update
Graphics card: AMD RX 570 8gb

Blender Version
Broken: 2.9
Worked: 2.9

Short description of error
I recently came back to Blender and I'm doing the Donut series by Andrew Price, everything was working fine and I got midway but from one day to another, the entire program freezes and crashes or bugs out when I switch to render view mode in viewport or rendering with f12. I already tried different drivers for my card, older and newer, I play a lot of games and there aren't problems there. I already switched to 2.91 version of Blender, and 2.9, Idk what else to do, I cleanly uninstalled my graphic drivers with DDU even, but it's the same, the program now gives an error with 2.91 tho, it says: "Split kernel error: failed to load kernel_indirect_background". The program is not frozen but I can only see the orange outlines of my objects if selected, there's nothing else in the viewport. The 2.9 version tries to render with GPU Cycles, but I notice strange straight lines showing and red and blue and green pixels that don't look like should belong there, their colors are too bright.

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error
I just switch to rendered view mode and this happens.

**System Information** Operating system: Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit Latest Update Graphics card: AMD RX 570 8gb **Blender Version** Broken: 2.9 Worked: 2.9 **Short description of error** I recently came back to Blender and I'm doing the Donut series by Andrew Price, everything was working fine and I got midway but from one day to another, the entire program freezes and crashes or bugs out when I switch to render view mode in viewport or rendering with f12. I already tried different drivers for my card, older and newer, I play a lot of games and there aren't problems there. I already switched to 2.91 version of Blender, and 2.9, Idk what else to do, I cleanly uninstalled my graphic drivers with DDU even, but it's the same, the program now gives an error with 2.91 tho, it says: "Split kernel error: failed to load kernel_indirect_background". The program is not frozen but I can only see the orange outlines of my objects if selected, there's nothing else in the viewport. The 2.9 version tries to render with GPU Cycles, but I notice strange straight lines showing and red and blue and green pixels that don't look like should belong there, their colors are too bright. **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** I just switch to rendered view mode and this happens.

Edson commented

2020-09-23 03:04:11 +02:00

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Abdullah Adnan commented

2020-09-23 17:33:06 +02:00

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Abdullah Adnan commented

2020-09-23 17:33:06 +02:00

Same problem here with RX Vega 64. It says: "Split kernel error: invalid ray state".
I hope we got noticed here and the problem quickly solved.

Same problem here with RX Vega 64. It says: "Split kernel error: invalid ray state". I hope we got noticed here and the problem quickly solved.

Richard Antalik commented

2020-09-30 14:28:38 +02:00

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Richard Antalik commented

2020-09-30 14:28:38 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'

Richard Antalik commented

2020-09-30 14:28:38 +02:00

I saw some reports with RX 580 recently, but I couldn't reproduce on RX 550. But please upload example file so we can check. Try also simpler files, even default cube

Edson commented

2020-09-30 20:09:01 +02:00

Here's an example file https://pasteall.org/blend/fa586ef8c007452b90ee0e30f02a008f

Rodrigo Alonzo commented

2020-09-30 20:40:45 +02:00

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Rodrigo Alonzo commented

2020-09-30 20:40:45 +02:00

RX Vega here, having the same issue since roughly the beginning of the year. Clearing kernel cache works for very basic files, resetting to factory settings doesn't do anything. I get Invalid Ray State error, program crashes, whole system crashes.

Update: Can get the error easily by bumping subsurface all the way to 1 with just the default cube.

Update 2: running latest driver, I think the bug is directly related to drivers. I've read that downgrading to previous drivers fixes the issue, which would also explain the system crashes.

RX Vega here, having the same issue since roughly the beginning of the year. Clearing kernel cache works for very basic files, resetting to factory settings doesn't do anything. I get Invalid Ray State error, program crashes, whole system crashes. Update: Can get the error easily by bumping subsurface all the way to 1 with just the default cube. Update 2: running latest driver, I think the bug is directly related to drivers. I've read that downgrading to previous drivers fixes the issue, which would also explain the system crashes.

Richard Antalik commented

2020-10-01 16:26:49 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Needs Triage'

Richard Antalik commented

2020-10-01 16:32:18 +02:00

I was not able to reproduce crash.

I would also think this is bug in driver, @edson_stich you can try to clear kernel caches by removing files in %appdata%\Roaming\Blender Foundation\Blender\2.91\cache\kernels

I was not able to reproduce crash. I would also think this is bug in driver, @edson_stich you can try to clear kernel caches by removing files in %appdata%\Roaming\Blender Foundation\Blender\2.91\cache\kernels

Rodrigo Alonzo commented

2020-10-01 18:09:18 +02:00

Hi, the issue was the drivers!

So in a 2 step process I was able to solve the issue for me. First completely cleaning up all driver update junk with the [Radeon Cleanup Utility ]]. Next step was to download the [ https:*www.amd.com/en/technologies/radeon-pro-software | Radeon Pro Software Enterprise Driver , which you can download from a list of drivers once you input the hardware you have. The driver version I downloaded is 20.Q3.1 and it works really well.

Hi, the issue was the drivers! So in a 2 step process I was able to solve the issue for me. First completely cleaning up all driver update junk with the [Radeon Cleanup Utility ]]. Next step was to download the [[ https:*www.amd.com/en/technologies/radeon-pro-software | Radeon Pro Software Enterprise Driver ](https:*www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/gpu-601), which you can download from a list of drivers once you input the hardware you have. The driver version I downloaded is 20.Q3.1 and it works really well.

Edson commented

2020-10-01 21:48:56 +02:00

In #81075#1026667, @iss wrote:
I was not able to reproduce crash.

I would also think this is bug in driver, @edson_stich you can try to clear kernel caches by removing files in %appdata%\Roaming\Blender Foundation\Blender\2.91\cache\kernels

Thank you so much! This finally worked! I deleted every file in there and I had other folders for previous versions but I deleted them too, you were of great help!

Also Rodrigo, I tried those drivers before but they didn't make a difference, it was so weird, but thanks for your suggestions too.

Edit: omg, sorry, it didn't work, I thought it did, but it was just my CPU rendering, it's still bugged :l, in System preferences I have OpenCL and only my GPU is checked, if I change back to Solid mode, the program crashes.

> In #81075#1026667, @iss wrote: > I was not able to reproduce crash. > > I would also think this is bug in driver, @edson_stich you can try to clear kernel caches by removing files in %appdata%\Roaming\Blender Foundation\Blender\2.91\cache\kernels Thank you so much! This finally worked! I deleted every file in there and I had other folders for previous versions but I deleted them too, you were of great help! Also Rodrigo, I tried those drivers before but they didn't make a difference, it was so weird, but thanks for your suggestions too. Edit: omg, sorry, it didn't work, I thought it did, but it was just my CPU rendering, it's still bugged :l, in System preferences I have OpenCL and only my GPU is checked, if I change back to Solid mode, the program crashes. ![donut.jpg](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8944992/donut.jpg) ![donut2.jpg](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8944994/donut2.jpg) ![donut3.jpg](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8945014/donut3.jpg)

GuillermoEspertino commented

2020-12-03 17:45:52 +01:00

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GuillermoEspertino commented

2020-12-03 17:45:52 +01:00

Blender 2.91 on Windows 10, official build from blender.org
Using the Pro Enterprise drivers, version 20.10.27.03-200826a-358464C-RadeonProEnterprise

In my case I cannot turn on GPU rendering in cycles as it will hardlock the computer completely (this has been the case since 2.83 and both the regular drivers and the Pro Enterprise ones do the same, updated or not.

Blender 2.91 on Windows 10, official build from blender.org Using the Pro Enterprise drivers, version 20.10.27.03-200826a-358464C-RadeonProEnterprise In my case I cannot turn on GPU rendering in cycles as it will hardlock the computer completely (this has been the case since 2.83 and both the regular drivers and the Pro Enterprise ones do the same, updated or not.

Germano Cavalcante commented

2021-01-19 14:16:10 +01:00

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Germano Cavalcante commented

2021-01-19 14:16:10 +01:00

It doesn't crash with me, but it has a problem of Split kernel error: failed to load kernel_lamp_emission
The GPU rendering of the example file worked without problems.

Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics ATI Technologies Inc. 4.5.14757 Core Profile/Debug Context 20.11.2 27.20.14501.18003

It doesn't crash with me, but it has a problem of `Split kernel error: failed to load kernel_lamp_emission` The GPU rendering of the example file worked without problems. --- Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics ATI Technologies Inc. 4.5.14757 Core Profile/Debug Context 20.11.2 27.20.14501.18003

CLAUDIO TELLIS commented

2021-08-03 12:48:49 +02:00

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CLAUDIO TELLIS commented

2021-08-03 12:48:49 +02:00

Hi,
I've had the same issue of rendering in cycles using RX480 8GB DDR5 GPU and Blenders 2.93.1
i rolled back my GPU drivers to Radeon Software Adrenalin 2020 Edition 19.12.2
link below.
https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-19-12-2

and its working perfectly now.
do try it and see if it helps.

Hi, I've had the same issue of rendering in cycles using RX480 8GB DDR5 GPU and Blenders 2.93.1 i rolled back my GPU drivers to Radeon Software Adrenalin 2020 Edition 19.12.2 link below. https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-19-12-2 and its working perfectly now. do try it and see if it helps.

Edson commented

2021-08-03 23:11:46 +02:00

Thanks for your suggestion, I just tried it, and unfortunately it doesn't work, now it crashes in "Updating Device" no matter what I do :/, I uninstalled my updated drivers with DDU in safe mode, and installed the ones you suggested, but it's the same.

Thomas Dinges commented

2021-11-19 10:36:39 +01:00

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Thomas Dinges commented

2021-11-19 10:36:39 +01:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Archived'

Thomas Dinges closed this issue

2021-11-19 10:36:39 +01:00

Thomas Dinges commented

2021-11-19 10:36:39 +01:00

OpenCL rendering support was removed in Blender 3.0.
The combination of the limited Cycles kernel implementation, driver bugs, and stalled OpenCL standard
has made maintenance too difficult. Thanks for your report, but it's unlikely that there will be further fixes for OpenCL.

For AMD GPUs, there is a new backend based on the HIP platform.
In Blender 3.0, this is supported on Windows with RDNA and RDNA2 generation discrete graphics cards.
It includes Radeon RX 5000 and RX 6000 series GPUs. Driver version Radeon Pro 21.Q4 or newer is required.

https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Reference/Release_Notes/3.0/Cycles
https://code.blender.org/2021/11/next-level-support-for-amd-gpus/

OpenCL rendering support was removed in Blender 3.0. The combination of the limited Cycles kernel implementation, driver bugs, and stalled OpenCL standard has made maintenance too difficult. Thanks for your report, but it's unlikely that there will be further fixes for OpenCL. For AMD GPUs, there is a new backend based on the HIP platform. In Blender 3.0, this is supported on Windows with RDNA and RDNA2 generation discrete graphics cards. It includes Radeon RX 5000 and RX 6000 series GPUs. Driver version Radeon Pro 21.Q4 or newer is required. https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Reference/Release_Notes/3.0/Cycles https://code.blender.org/2021/11/next-level-support-for-amd-gpus/

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Cycles rendering mode crashes the entire program AMD OpenCL #81075