Upload settings from previous version breaks language settings #86468

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opened 2021-03-11 00:00:08 +01:00 by Vyacheslav Kobozev · 7 comments

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Operating system: Windows-8.1-6.3.9600-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: GeForce GTX 660 Ti/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 461.40

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Broken: version: 2.93.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2021-03-10 04:47, hash: 70e73974b5

Short description of error
In previous version I have Russian language only for tooltips.
After uploading in newer version all checkboxes checked.
Same issue, if i switch to English and back.

Steps to Reproduce

  • Edit -> Preferences -> Interface -> Translation
  • Change the language (eg. Dutch)
  • Change the checks present below it
  • Switch to some different language and return again to Dutch
  • State of the checks is lost
    2021-03-11_01-56-09.mp4
**System Information** Operating system: Windows-8.1-6.3.9600-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: GeForce GTX 660 Ti/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 461.40 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 2.93.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2021-03-10 04:47, hash: `70e73974b5` **Short description of error** In previous version I have Russian language only for tooltips. After uploading in newer version all checkboxes checked. Same issue, if i switch to English and back. **Steps to Reproduce** - `Edit -> Preferences -> Interface -> Translation` - Change the language (eg. Dutch) - Change the checks present below it - Switch to some different language and return again to `Dutch` - State of the checks is lost [2021-03-11_01-56-09.mp4](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9883761/2021-03-11_01-56-09.mp4)

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Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Confirmed'

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I can reproduce on master: 3.0.0, 962153dbed

Since this is working but a little improvement is required, I am triaging this a low priority issue :)

I can reproduce on master: 3.0.0, `962153dbed` Since this is working but a little improvement is required, I am triaging this a low priority issue :)
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This is best described as intended behavior that can sometimes be annoying. It isn't that from now on it will ignore previous settings, more that we recently made a one-time change to Blender that meant we had to reset them. It should remember those settings when you update from 3.0 to 3.1 for example.

We made changes to how languages are selected and used. At one time you had to "enable" the ability to use a non-English language and at that point we would swap in our large font that supports almost all languages at once.

We decided to use that large font all the time and therefore support different languages and alphabets simultaneously. So you can now, for example, enter and see Japanese text even though you have Blender set to display English. Similarly you can enter Chinese characters while viewing Russian.

But at the time of this change we had to deal as best as we could with existing blend files that had existing settings that could be incompatible with the new settings. So some of what you see is related to that. For example, changing to English from another language turns off those checkboxes because we don't want them going through the translation system.

Similarly we added language selection to the initial version of the splash screen shown to new users (those without existing preferences) so they can select a language immediately. We didn't want to also add those checkboxes there so we made it that changing a language will also enable using that language for tooltips, interface, and new data. Although that made it easier for new users it does mean that you might have to turn off some checkboxes in cases where that is not what you want.

This is best described as intended behavior that can sometimes be annoying. It isn't that from now on it will ignore previous settings, more that we recently made a one-time change to Blender that meant we had to reset them. It should remember those settings when you update from 3.0 to 3.1 for example. We made changes to how languages are selected and used. At one time you had to "enable" the ability to use a non-English language and at that point we would swap in our large font that supports almost all languages at once. We decided to use that large font all the time and therefore support different languages and alphabets simultaneously. So you can now, for example, enter and see Japanese text even though you have Blender set to display English. Similarly you can enter Chinese characters while viewing Russian. But at the time of this change we had to deal as best as we could with existing blend files that had existing settings that could be incompatible with the new settings. So some of what you see is related to that. For example, changing to English from another language turns off those checkboxes because we don't want them going through the translation system. Similarly we added language selection to the initial version of the splash screen shown to new users (those without existing preferences) so they can select a language immediately. We didn't want to also add those checkboxes there so we made it that changing a language will also enable using that language for tooltips, interface, and new data. Although that made it easier for new users it does mean that you might have to turn off some checkboxes in cases where that is not what you want.

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