Diffuse color pass - faded color due to Principled BSDF sheen #90544

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opened 2021-08-09 14:50:21 +02:00 by Prabhu · 14 comments

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Operating system: Windows 8
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER

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Broken: 2.83.15
Worked: No

Short description of error
When we render a material with sheen in it more the value more color comes faded in Diffuse color pass.Sheen 1.png

Sheen 0.png

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error

  • Apply Principled BSDF shader on a object with sheen value 1.
  • In View Layer Passes select Diffuse color.
  • Render the image & color is very fade in Diffuse Color pass due to sheen value.
**System Information** Operating system: Windows 8 Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER **Blender Version** Broken: 2.83.15 Worked: No **Short description of error** When we render a material with sheen in it more the value more color comes faded in Diffuse color pass.![Sheen 1.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F10275162/Sheen_1.png) ![Sheen 0.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F10275161/Sheen_0.png) **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** - Apply Principled BSDF shader on a object with sheen value 1. - In View Layer Passes select Diffuse color. - Render the image & color is very fade in Diffuse Color pass due to sheen value.
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Broken: 2.83.15

I can not reproduce this on 2.83.17 (fb67495c7f) and on current master.

Please try again with the fresh builds: https://builder.blender.org/download/daily/

Also add the system info file generated from Help -> Save system Info

>Broken: 2.83.15 I can not reproduce this on 2.83.17 (`fb67495c7f`) and on current master. Please try again with the fresh builds: https://builder.blender.org/download/daily/ Also add the system info file generated from `Help -> Save system Info`
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No activity for more than a week. As per the tracker policy we assume the issue is gone and can be closed.

Thanks again for the report. If the problem persists please open a new report with the required information.

No activity for more than a week. As per the tracker policy we assume the issue is gone and can be closed. Thanks again for the report. If the problem persists please open a new report with the required information.
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Hi team,
Sorry for delay in response. I have tried again in latest blender shared, but issue persists. If turn on metal value to 1 that object comes black in color pass & if add sheen in material the color fades. Kindly find the attached Blender file & render with diffuse color pass.Main render.png

color pass error.blend

color pass.png

Hi team, Sorry for delay in response. I have tried again in latest blender shared, but issue persists. If turn on metal value to 1 that object comes black in color pass & if add sheen in material the color fades. Kindly find the attached Blender file & render with diffuse color pass.![Main render.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F10311671/Main_render.png) [color pass error.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F10311670/color_pass_error.blend) ![color pass.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F10311668/color_pass.png)
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Also add the system info file generated from Help -> Save system Info

Hi, could you please add the file? I am not able to reproduce the mentioned issue.

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Operating system : Windows-10-10.0.18362-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card : AMD Radeon(TM) 535 ATI Technologies .
Version: 3.0.0-alpha, branch: master, Hash: rBeec1ea0ccf2a, commit date: 2021-08-23```
>Also add the system info file generated from Help -> Save system Info Hi, could you please add the file? I am not able to reproduce the mentioned issue. ![untitled.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F10318013/untitled.png) --- **System Information** ``` Operating system : Windows-10-10.0.18362-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card : AMD Radeon(TM) 535 ATI Technologies . Version: 3.0.0-alpha, branch: master, Hash: rBeec1ea0ccf2a, commit date: 2021-08-23```
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color pass error.blend

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Please find attached Blender file & render images for reference.

[color pass error.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F10319493/color_pass_error.blend) ![3.jpg](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F10319494/3.jpg) ![1.jpg](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F10319496/1.jpg) ![2.jpg](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F10319497/2.jpg) Please find attached Blender file & render images for reference.
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If turn on metal value to 1 that object comes black in color pass

This is expected with metallic object because metallic value =1 don't contain diffuse layer
principled.html - At 0.0 the material consists of a diffuse or transmissive base layer, with a specular reflection layer on top.
Unsure how sheen value affects diffuse pass. Will let the developer decide if this is a bug or not

> If turn on metal value to 1 that object comes black in color pass This is expected with metallic object because metallic value =1 don't contain diffuse layer [principled.html ](https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/latest/render/shader_nodes/shader/principled.html)- `At 0.0 the material consists of a diffuse or transmissive base layer, with a specular reflection layer on top.` Unsure how sheen value affects diffuse pass. Will let the developer decide if this is a bug or not
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@LukasStockner Could you please take a look here if this is a bug or can be closed? This is still with the Principled v1 so might be obsolete.

@LukasStockner Could you please take a look here if this is a bug or can be closed? This is still with the Principled v1 so might be obsolete.
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Yeah, this can be closed. The actual report is a duplicate of #104041, which was fixed as a byproduct of 73000c792d, and later the entire sheen component was replaced.

With Principled v2, the described effect (Sheen value affects diffuse color) still happens, but it's intentional (since Sheen counts as diffuse) and happens correctly from what I can see in testing.

Yeah, this can be closed. The actual report is a duplicate of #104041, which was fixed as a byproduct of 73000c792d40e61df5e118b25757e37e6c6017b9, and later the entire sheen component was replaced. With Principled v2, the described effect (Sheen value affects diffuse color) still happens, but it's intentional (since Sheen counts as diffuse) and happens correctly from what I can see in testing.
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