User Interface lags #35078

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Tobias Lijsen · 2013-04-25T19:40:10+02:00

Tobias Lijsen commented

2013-04-25 19:40:10 +02:00

%%%--- Operating System, Graphics card ---
DELL Vostro 3450
Windows 7 Prof. 64 Bit
Serv. Pack1
Intel Core i5 2410M CPU 2.3 GHz
RAM 8 GB
Grafik: AMD Radeon HD 6630M
Intel HD Graphics Family

- Blender version with error, and version that worked ---

blender 2.66a official build

- Short description of error ---

gui is alway a step behind the user
if i click a menu i have to do another keystroke to really open the menu
same for all other user inputs

workarounds:

if i enable screencast in blender the error is gone
also if i switch graphics to 16 bit its gone

what i tryed:

newest graphics driver is installed
window draw methods doesnt help
turning of windows aero design doesnt help
%%%

%%%--- Operating System, Graphics card --- DELL Vostro 3450 Windows 7 Prof. 64 Bit Serv. Pack1 Intel Core i5 2410M CPU 2.3 GHz RAM 8 GB Grafik: AMD Radeon HD 6630M Intel HD Graphics Family - Blender version with error, and version that worked --- blender 2.66a official build - Short description of error --- gui is alway a step behind the user if i click a menu i have to do another keystroke to really open the menu same for all other user inputs workarounds: - if i enable screencast in blender the error is gone - also if i switch graphics to 16 bit its gone what i tryed: - newest graphics driver is installed - window draw methods doesnt help - turning of windows aero design doesnt help %%%

Tobias Lijsen commented

2013-04-25 19:40:10 +02:00

Changed status to: 'Open'

Sergey Sharybin commented

2013-04-26 11:18:51 +02:00

%%%This is definitely opengl issue. Seems your computer supports both integrated and discrete cards? In this case try forcing blender to run on AMD one. Also, make sure you're using drivers from intel/AMD directly, DO NOT rely on newest drivers from your laptop vendor -- they could easily be out-of-date or patched in a way they don't work.%%%

endi endike commented

2013-04-27 09:40:06 +02:00

%%%this bug is live on every system I have worked, even with strong geforce cards
and it is very annoying... but the strangest thing why most of the people are happy with it? strange...
there was the "lazy keyboard" bug and it lives for 2-3 versions of Blender, and only me and an other guy noticed it

really I dont understad the Blender users...%%%

%%%this bug is live on every system I have worked, even with strong geforce cards and it is very annoying... but the strangest thing why most of the people are happy with it? strange... there was the "lazy keyboard" bug and it lives for 2-3 versions of Blender, and only me and an other guy noticed it really I dont understad the Blender users...%%%

endi endike commented

2013-04-27 09:41:04 +02:00

%%%And, important: 2.49 is worked fine! So the problem is not with opengl or with hardwares...%%%

Sergey Sharybin commented

2013-04-27 11:12:24 +02:00

%%%This is something to do with particular setup you've got, or particular configuration. There could be some third party software running on your systems which interferes with blender, or it could be some addon which you've got enabled..

Please try:

Loading factory settings and see if issue still happens
Try closing all applications running in the background, they could affect on opengl as well.
Download opengl32.dll from http://download.blender.org/ftp/incoming/softwaregl/ and put it to the same folder as blender.exe. This will switch blender to fully software opengl mode, avoiding possible issues with driver/configuration.

Do you have some non-standard settings in your windows? (comparing to default installation -- things which affects on mouse/keyboard interaction).

P.S. Comparing with Blender 2.49 is not fair tho, interaction with opengl changed a lot, and lots of newer opengl features are used comparing current blender with 2.4x series.%%%

%%%This is something to do with particular setup you've got, or particular configuration. There could be some third party software running on your systems which interferes with blender, or it could be some addon which you've got enabled.. Please try: - Loading factory settings and see if issue still happens - Try closing all applications running in the background, they could affect on opengl as well. - Download opengl32.dll from http://download.blender.org/ftp/incoming/softwaregl/ and put it to the same folder as blender.exe. This will switch blender to fully software opengl mode, avoiding possible issues with driver/configuration. Do you have some non-standard settings in your windows? (comparing to default installation -- things which affects on mouse/keyboard interaction). P.S. Comparing with Blender 2.49 is not fair tho, interaction with opengl changed a lot, and lots of newer opengl features are used comparing current blender with 2.4x series.%%%

Ton Roosendaal commented

2013-04-29 10:49:46 +02:00

%%%Endi and Tobias: this is really exceptional. Of course "most users" can't live with that. There's enough Windows developers who do Blender work to keep track of such errors.

What we need is you guys carefully investigating what the cause is. There is something in your Windows system configuration doing it.
%%%

%%%Endi and Tobias: this is really exceptional. Of course "most users" can't live with that. There's enough Windows developers who do Blender work to keep track of such errors. What we need is you guys carefully investigating what the cause is. There is something in your Windows system configuration doing it. %%%

Nathan Letwory commented

2013-04-29 12:40:42 +02:00

%%%I have seen this behavior on a Windows 8 machine with an NVidia card. I don't have regular access to it, but I can find out more info on Thursday evening, when I'm in that game lab again.

I shall try the instructions from Sergey too, but I can already say that using factory settings didn't change anything.

The special situation of this machine is that it is currently being used for some commercial project too, and the user active in it is always logged in. I cannot log that user out, so not able to really close all running processes. From what I've seen in the process list at least Modo is running for that user.

More info at the end of this week.%%%

%%%I have seen this behavior on a Windows 8 machine with an NVidia card. I don't have regular access to it, but I can find out more info on Thursday evening, when I'm in that game lab again. I shall try the instructions from Sergey too, but I can already say that using factory settings didn't change anything. The special situation of this machine is that it is currently being used for some commercial project too, and the user active in it is always logged in. I cannot log that user out, so not able to really close all running processes. From what I've seen in the process list at least Modo is running for that user. More info at the end of this week.%%%

Shakanos commented

2013-04-30 20:26:16 +02:00

%%%I had same issue on Windows 8 with NVIDIA card and GeForce-drivers: 313.96 (BETA, 29.1.2013) and 314.07 (WHQL, 18.2.2013). 314.07 rechecked right now - problem still there.
With the latest drivers: 314.22 (WHQL, 25.3.2013) and 320.00 (BETA, 23.4.2013) this problem is gone.%%%

%%%I had same issue on Windows 8 with NVIDIA card and GeForce-drivers: 313.96 (BETA, 29.1.2013) and 314.07 (WHQL, 18.2.2013). 314.07 rechecked right now - problem still there. With the latest drivers: 314.22 (WHQL, 25.3.2013) and 320.00 (BETA, 23.4.2013) this problem is gone.%%%

Thomas Dinges commented

2013-05-01 11:51:53 +02:00

%%%Yes, I remember (heard from other people) bugs with nVidia drivers prior tp 314.*
So please make sure to use this one at least.

As for Windows 7, Geforce 540M, no lags or problems here.

I'd just move this to the OpenGL tracker. %%%

%%%Yes, I remember (heard from other people) bugs with nVidia drivers prior tp 314.* So please make sure to use this one at least. As for Windows 7, Geforce 540M, no lags or problems here. I'd just move this to the OpenGL tracker. %%%

Tobias Lijsen commented

2013-05-01 12:54:07 +02:00

%%%yes but we have AMD here - as mentioned in first post

now using opengl32.dll - error is gone

but now interface is really slow

do you need more infos ?%%%

%%%yes but we have AMD here - as mentioned in first post now using opengl32.dll - error is gone but now interface is really slow do you need more infos ?%%%

Sergey Sharybin commented

2013-05-01 13:02:06 +02:00

%%%Then it's something up to AMD drivers i guess. Maybe trying older drivers or beta versions will affect on this.%%%

Ton Roosendaal commented

2013-05-01 13:05:25 +02:00

%%%Afaik - using opengl32.dll means software opengl, this is a test to see if Blender works fine.

We really need people here to keep digging, until there's a clue what in your system causes the issue...%%%

%%%Afaik - using opengl32.dll means software opengl, this is a test to see if Blender works fine. We really need people here to keep digging, until there's a clue what in your system causes the issue...%%%

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2013-05-01 15:12:20 +02:00

%%%Attaching the output of Help > System Info in Blender might give some clues. And please try the latest AMD drivers from their website if you haven't already, you didn't mention if you did this?%%%

Tobias Lijsen commented

2013-05-01 23:40:25 +02:00

%%%thx guys
i did this bug report for a new blender user - i tryed to find out much as possible over weeks before opened this bug

now we fixed it ! the user has now the original newest AMD Driver

so the laptop vendors driver was the problem....

THANK YOU VERY MUCH - REPORT CAN BE CLOSED%%%

%%%thx guys i did this bug report for a new blender user - i tryed to find out much as possible over weeks before opened this bug now we fixed it ! the user has now the original newest AMD Driver so the laptop vendors driver was the problem.... THANK YOU VERY MUCH - REPORT CAN BE CLOSED%%%

Tobias Lijsen commented

2013-05-01 23:49:13 +02:00

%%%OR WAIT !!!

should we dig deeper to find the root cause and fix it for all people ?????

i can give more infos like system info%%%

%%%OR WAIT !!! should we dig deeper to find the root cause and fix it for all people ????? i can give more infos like system info%%%

Thomas Dinges commented

2013-05-01 23:54:01 +02:00

%%%If using the latest driver fixes it, this is a solution for everyone.

Closing.%%%

%%%If using the latest driver fixes it, this is a solution for everyone. Closing.%%%

Thomas Dinges commented

2013-05-01 23:54:01 +02:00

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Resolved'

Thomas Dinges closed this issue

2013-05-01 23:54:01 +02:00

Nathan Letwory commented

2013-05-02 09:26:52 +02:00

%%%I think closing is premature, as there is at least one NVidia machine where this happens - when last time checked it had the latest drivers. And remember, tonight I have again access to the machine. Only then I can verify driver version etc.%%%

vikrant singh commented

2015-09-13 16:35:12 +02:00

Added subscriber: @vikrant

vikrant singh commented

2015-09-13 16:35:12 +02:00

this is happening with me also, it never happened before. blender is always one step behind what i am doing. i have nvidea GT 635M. someone should find the root cause of this issue.

Ray Mairlot commented

2015-09-13 16:39:00 +02:00

Removed subscriber: @RayMairlot

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User Interface lags #35078