Transform tools redo panels show options that don’t make sense. #37446

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William Reynish · 2013-11-14T14:31:35+01:00

William Reynish commented

2013-11-14 14:31:35 +01:00

Issue Description:
Many tools present redo options that don’t appear to make any sense, and the transform tool has a particularly long list of properties.
This makes the redo panel confusing and cluttered, and it wastes loads of space.

Proposed Solution:
Only present settings in the redo-panel that actually make sense to tweak

List of tools with this issue:

Rotate tool
This is a good example. It's impossible to tweak the rotation on more than one axis(which is what you'd want to do), but instead you are presented with a bunch of rather useless options to constrain rotations and 'Confirm on release' which does nothing. We could remove Constraint Axis if we had per axis rotation tweaking, because you could simply tweak only one axis to constrain on that axis.

Translate
Remove 'Constraint Axis', 'Edit Texture Space' & 'Confirm on Release'
Disable Proportional Editing settings unless Prop. Editing is turned on.
(Likewise for Scale Tool)

Extrude
Both X,Y and Z Vector settings all do the same thing (moves along normal). This makes no sense :)

Examples of tools with sane tool settings

These tools have human useable and understandable tool settings. Use them as good examples:
Spin, Screw, Smooth Vertex, Noise, Fill Holes etc...

**Issue Description:** Many tools present redo options that don’t appear to make any sense, and the transform tool has a particularly long list of properties. This makes the redo panel confusing and cluttered, and it wastes loads of space. **Proposed Solution:** Only present settings in the redo-panel that actually make sense to tweak **List of tools with this issue:** **Rotate tool** This is a good example. It's impossible to tweak the rotation on more than one axis(which is what you'd want to do), but instead you are presented with a bunch of rather useless options to constrain rotations and 'Confirm on release' which does nothing. We could remove Constraint Axis if we had per axis rotation tweaking, because you could simply tweak only one axis to constrain on that axis. **Translate** Remove 'Constraint Axis', 'Edit Texture Space' & 'Confirm on Release' Disable Proportional Editing settings unless Prop. Editing is turned on. (Likewise for Scale Tool) **Extrude** Both X,Y and Z Vector settings all do the same thing (moves along normal). This makes no sense :) **Examples of tools with sane tool settings** These tools have human useable and understandable tool settings. Use them as good examples: Spin, Screw, Smooth Vertex, Noise, Fill Holes etc... ![redo-panel-issue-6.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F27186/redo-panel-issue-6.png)

William Reynish commented

2013-11-14 14:31:35 +01:00

Changed status to: 'Open'

William Reynish commented

2013-11-14 14:31:35 +01:00

Added subscriber: @billrey

blender-admin commented

2013-11-14 14:31:35 +01:00

#37594 was marked as duplicate of this issue

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2013-11-14 15:10:59 +01:00

Added subscriber: @brecht

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2013-11-14 15:10:59 +01:00

I think this one may get a bit too vague/broad. The transform operator has grown particularly complicated and its options could be redesigned, but it's no easy task. The options reflect how the tool itself works, and so it's not just a matter of changing how things are displayed.

We already have #37439 ('Redo' panel: Some redo settings don't make sense to edit) for removing options.

I think this one may get a bit too vague/broad. The transform operator has grown particularly complicated and its options could be redesigned, but it's no easy task. The options reflect how the tool itself works, and so it's not just a matter of changing how things are displayed. We already have #37439 ('Redo' panel: Some redo settings don't make sense to edit) for removing options.

Jonathan Williamson commented

2013-11-14 17:36:05 +01:00

Added subscriber: @JonathanWilliamson

Brecht Van Lommel changed title from ~~Many tools show redo options that don’t make sense.~~ to Transform tools redo panels show options that don’t make sense.

2013-11-15 03:31:27 +01:00

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2013-11-15 03:33:03 +01:00

I've made this specifically about the transform tools now. We can try to redesign that as an example and later make design tasks for other tools.

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2013-11-25 18:21:22 +01:00

Added subscriber: @florian-5

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2013-11-25 18:21:22 +01:00

◀ Merged tasks: #37594.

William Reynish commented

2013-11-26 01:57:58 +01:00

Here's a mockup of the Translate operator with all the meaningless settings removed. We're left with a sensible, meaningful tool setting panel that users can understand. Plus, it takes up way less space.

Here's a mockup of the Translate operator with all the meaningless settings removed. We're left with a sensible, meaningful tool setting panel that users can understand. Plus, it takes up way less space. ![Translate_clean.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F32994/Translate_clean.png)

Campbell Barton commented

2016-03-10 06:49:26 +01:00

Added subscriber: @ideasman42

Campbell Barton commented

2016-03-10 06:49:26 +01:00

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Archived'

Campbell Barton closed this issue

2016-03-10 06:49:26 +01:00

Campbell Barton self-assigned this 2016-03-10 06:49:26 +01:00

Campbell Barton commented

2016-03-10 06:49:26 +01:00

No resolution or activity in over 3 months,
archiving, listed in the wiki .
Can re-open when we have time to handle this one.

No resolution or activity in over 3 months, archiving, listed in [the wiki ](http://wiki.blender.org/index.php?title=Dev:Source/Development/Todo/UserInterface#Archived_Design_Tasks). Can re-open when we have time to handle this one.

Julian Eisel commented

2019-11-26 15:25:57 +01:00

Closed as duplicate of #37439

Julian Eisel closed this issue

2019-11-26 15:25:57 +01:00

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Transform tools redo panels show options that don’t make sense. #37446