Blender Default Changes: Python Tooltips #37456

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opened 2013-11-14 18:31:38 +01:00 by Elijah Salberg · 10 comments

Python tooltips can be distracting for many users, and they're only needed by scripters, riggers, and anyone otherwise working with drivers and such.

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Make Python Tooltips disabled by default.

Python tooltips can be distracting for many users, and they're only needed by scripters, riggers, and anyone otherwise working with drivers and such. **Proposal:** Make **Python Tooltips** disabled by default.
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Changed status to: 'Open'

Changed status to: 'Open'
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Added subscribers: @billrey, @brecht, @JonathanWilliamson, @pablovazquez

Added subscribers: @billrey, @brecht, @JonathanWilliamson, @pablovazquez

Added subscriber: @ThomasDinges

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I disagree with this here. We could make the tooltip more clear though, for example add a better visual separation between the two.

But the Python tooltips are important for devs, scripters and animators (driver names).

I disagree with this here. We could make the tooltip more clear though, for example add a better visual separation between the two. But the Python tooltips are important for devs, scripters and animators (driver names).
Brecht Van Lommel changed title from Python tooltips disabled by default to Blender Default Changes: Python 2013-11-15 16:23:57 +01:00

I strongly object to disabling these in the tooltips by default. They could be deemphasized, smaller font size or more muted color, but I rather evolve to more extended multiline tooltips with more information. We shouldn't be afraid to put such information in tooltips, rather design them in a way that makes things more clear.

I strongly object to disabling these in the tooltips by default. They could be deemphasized, smaller font size or more muted color, but I rather evolve to more extended multiline tooltips with more information. We shouldn't be afraid to put such information in tooltips, rather design them in a way that makes things more clear.
Brecht Van Lommel changed title from Blender Default Changes: Python to Blender Default Changes: Python Tooltips 2013-11-15 16:33:41 +01:00

I agree @brecht, @dingto. I'd rather they be on by default but less prominent. The ability to add much more info to tooltips, including usage and directions info would be very valuable I think.

I agree @brecht, @dingto. I'd rather they be on by default but less prominent. The ability to add much more info to tooltips, including usage and directions info would be very valuable I think.

Added subscriber: @esalberg

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@esalberg, when adding tasks please be sure to include an adequate description and rationale for the suggested changes. Since we're looking for feedback from many people this will help keep everyone on the same page and help people understand the reasoning for the suggested change, even if they're not initially familiar with the issue..

@esalberg, when adding tasks please be sure to include an adequate description and rationale for the suggested changes. Since we're looking for feedback from many people this will help keep everyone on the same page and help people understand the reasoning for the suggested change, even if they're not initially familiar with the issue..

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Archived'

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Archived'
Brecht Van Lommel self-assigned this 2013-11-16 12:30:10 +01:00

So, it seems we as module owners agree that these should not be off by default, but rather have a different solution.

Since we also have a strict rule to only let developer and module owners create design tasks, I'm going to close this design task. Tooltip redesign can be discussed separately.

So, it seems we as module owners agree that these should not be off by default, but rather have a different solution. Since we also have a strict rule to only let developer and module owners create design tasks, I'm going to close this design task. Tooltip redesign can be discussed separately.
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