object selection wrong face #38203

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Vince Herried · 2014-01-14T05:06:04+01:00

Vince Herried commented

2014-01-14 05:06:04 +01:00

System Information
Fedora F20 32 bit PAE kernel with 16 G ram.
nVidia 9800 GTX

Blender Version
Broken: V2.69
Worked: (optional) On my other Fedora F19, and F20 32 bit PAE core two duo machines with less ram

Short description of error
With the simple default initialization box face select picks the wrong face.

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error
Based on a (as simple as possible) attached .blend file with minimum amount of steps
Since I have several other machines and the problem does not happen on them I suspect it is related to my hardware.
The video card I have had for several years, the cpu/ram configuration is new.
I have a 46MB screen cast that shows the problem

**System Information** Fedora F20 32 bit PAE kernel with 16 G ram. nVidia 9800 GTX **Blender Version** Broken: V2.69 Worked: (optional) On my other Fedora F19, and F20 32 bit PAE core two duo machines with less ram **Short description of error** With the simple default initialization box face select picks the wrong face. **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** Based on a (as simple as possible) attached .blend file with minimum amount of steps Since I have several other machines and the problem does not happen on them I suspect it is related to my hardware. The video card I have had for several years, the cpu/ram configuration is new. I have a 46MB screen cast that shows the problem

Vince Herried commented

2014-01-14 05:06:04 +01:00

Changed status to: 'Open'

Vince Herried commented

2014-01-14 05:06:04 +01:00

Added subscriber: @vince_549

Konrad Kleine commented

2014-01-14 16:28:18 +01:00

Added subscriber: @kwk-2

Konrad Kleine commented

2014-01-14 16:28:18 +01:00

Hi vince_549, could you please attach the file you mentioned in the description? Thanks in advance

Vince Herried commented

2014-01-14 17:16:27 +01:00

Your system would only let me upload a max of 8M. The video is 48 M in size.
I used screen cast and the thingy to show what buttons I was hitting when I created the video. So hopefully it will demo the problem to you.

Try this drop box link.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7qohdwfgg3fyuk2/0001-0250.avi

This bug is scaring me. because it is on my newest fastest system. I've had issues in the past using 32 bit linux on a box with a large amount of ram with the Fedora folks complaining that I should get off the PAE version of the kernel and go to 64 bit. The reason I don't is that I can't get Second Life to run on 64 bit Fedora. And I'm using blender specificly for Second life. It also scares me because I've been using blender for a year or more and this seems like such a basic bug ( I'm a former programmer on IBM large systems ). I'm guessing some really crazy 32 bit problem.

Let me know if there is any more information I can provide.

Vince

Your system would only let me upload a max of 8M. The video is 48 M in size. I used screen cast and the thingy to show what buttons I was hitting when I created the video. So hopefully it will demo the problem to you. Try this drop box link. https://www.dropbox.com/s/7qohdwfgg3fyuk2/0001-0250.avi This bug is scaring me. because it is on my newest fastest system. I've had issues in the past using 32 bit linux on a box with a large amount of ram with the Fedora folks complaining that I should get off the PAE version of the kernel and go to 64 bit. The reason I don't is that I can't get Second Life to run on 64 bit Fedora. And I'm using blender specificly for Second life. It also scares me because I've been using blender for a year or more and this seems like such a basic bug ( I'm a former programmer on IBM large systems ). I'm guessing some really crazy 32 bit problem. Let me know if there is any more information I can provide. Vince

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2014-01-14 18:39:10 +01:00

Added subscriber: @brecht

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2014-01-14 18:39:10 +01:00

Are you using the proprietary NVidia drivers on this system? The open source drivers don't work so well and we advise to use the ones from NVidia. If that doesn't help you could attach the output of Help > System Info in Blender so we can get more detailed information about the system and drivers.

Vince Herried commented

2014-01-14 19:15:29 +01:00

Hmm I see
renderer: 'Gallium 0.4 on NV92'
vendor: 'nouveau'

I thought I had installed the proprietary nvidia drive, but apparently not. Not only that. the kmod-nvidia and kernels are out of sync. appears a new kernel is available but no nvidia driver yet. I'll update my system as soon as possible and update this problem record also.
My other systems would not run Secondlife without the propriety driver.

Here is my system info:

Blender 2.69 (sub 0) System Information

Blender:

version 2.69 (sub 0), revision b'unknown'. b'Release'
build date: b'2014-01-01', b'09:21:33'
platform: b'Linux'
binary path: '/usr/bin/blender'
build cflags: b' -Wall -Wcast-align -Werror=declaration-after-statement -Werror=implicit-function-declaration -Werror=return-type -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wno-char-subscripts -Wno-unknown-pragmas -Wpointer-arith -Wunused-parameter -Wwrite-strings -Wlogical-op -Wundef -Winit-self -Wnonnull -Wmissing-include-dirs -Wno-div-by-zero -Wtype-limits -Wuninitialized -Wredundant-decls -Wno-error=unused-but-set-variable -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector-strong --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -grecord-gcc-switches -m32 -march=i686 -mtune=atom -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -fPIC -funsigned-char -fno-strict-aliasing -fopenmp -msse2 -msse -pipe -fPIC -funsigned-char -fno-strict-aliasing'
build cxxflags: b' -Wredundant-decls -Wall -Wno-invalid-offsetof -Wno-sign-compare -Wlogical-op -Winit-self -Wmissing-include-dirs -Wno-div-by-zero -Wtype-limits -Wuninitialized -Wundef -Wmissing-declarations -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector-strong --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -grecord-gcc-switches -m32 -march=i686 -mtune=atom -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -fPIC -funsigned-char -fno-strict-aliasing -fopenmp -msse2 -msse -pipe -fPIC -funsigned-char -fno-strict-aliasing'
build linkflags: b' -pthread'
build system: b'CMake'

Python:

version: 3.3.2 (default, Nov 7 2013, 10:01:52)
[GCC 4.8.1 20130814 (Red Hat 4.8.1-6)]
paths:
'/usr/share/blender/2.69/scripts/addons'
'/usr/share/blender/2.69/scripts/startup'
'/usr/share/blender/2.69/scripts/modules'
'/usr/lib/python33.zip'
'/usr/lib/python3.3'
'/usr/lib/python3.3/plat-linux'
'/usr/lib/python3.3/lib-dynload'
'/usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages'
'/usr/share/blender/2.69/scripts/addons/modules'
'/home/vince/.config/blender/2.69/scripts/addons/modules'

Directories:

scripts: ['/usr/share/blender/2.69/scripts']
user scripts: '/home/vince/.config/blender/2.69/scripts'
pref scripts: None
datafiles: '/home/vince/.config/blender/2.69/datafiles/'
config: '/home/vince/.config/blender/2.69/config/'
scripts : '/home/vince/.config/blender/2.69/scripts/'
autosave: '/home/vince/.config/blender/2.69/autosave/'
tempdir: '/tmp/'

FFmpeg:

Blender was built without FFmpeg support

OpenGL

renderer: 'Gallium 0.4 on NV92'
vendor: 'nouveau'
version: '3.0 Mesa 9.2.5'
extensions:
'GL_ARB_multisample GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_blend_color'
'GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_copy_texture'
'GL_EXT_polygon_offset GL_EXT_subtexture GL_EXT_texture_object'
'GL_EXT_vertex_array GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array GL_EXT_texture'
'GL_EXT_texture3D GL_IBM_rasterpos_clip GL_ARB_point_parameters'
'GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_EXT_packed_pixels'
'GL_EXT_point_parameters GL_EXT_rescale_normal'
'GL_EXT_separate_specular_color GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp'
'GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap GL_SGIS_texture_border_clamp'
'GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp GL_SGIS_texture_lod GL_ARB_framebuffer_sRGB'
'GL_ARB_multitexture GL_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB'
'GL_IBM_multimode_draw_arrays GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat'
'GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_texture_env_add GL_ARB_transpose_matrix'
'GL_EXT_blend_func_separate GL_EXT_fog_coord GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays'
'GL_EXT_secondary_color GL_EXT_texture_env_add'
'GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias'
'GL_INGR_blend_func_separate GL_NV_blend_square'
'GL_NV_light_max_exponent GL_NV_texgen_reflection'
'GL_NV_texture_env_combine4 GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays'
'GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp GL_ARB_texture_compression'
'GL_EXT_framebuffer_object GL_EXT_texture_env_combine'
'GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3 GL_MESA_window_pos GL_NV_packed_depth_stencil'
'GL_NV_texture_rectangle GL_ARB_depth_texture GL_ARB_occlusion_query'
'GL_ARB_shadow GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar'
'GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat'
'GL_ARB_window_pos GL_EXT_stencil_two_side GL_EXT_texture_cube_map'
'GL_NV_depth_clamp GL_NV_fog_distance GL_APPLE_packed_pixels'
'GL_APPLE_vertex_array_object GL_ARB_draw_buffers'
'GL_ARB_fragment_program GL_ARB_fragment_shader GL_ARB_shader_objects'
'GL_ARB_vertex_program GL_ARB_vertex_shader GL_ATI_draw_buffers'
'GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3 GL_ATI_texture_float GL_EXT_shadow_funcs'
'GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_MESA_pack_invert GL_NV_primitive_restart'
'GL_ARB_depth_clamp GL_ARB_fragment_program_shadow'
'GL_ARB_half_float_pixel GL_ARB_occlusion_query2 GL_ARB_point_sprite'
'GL_ARB_shading_language_100 GL_ARB_sync'
'GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object'
'GL_ATI_blend_equation_separate GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate'
'GL_OES_read_format GL_ARB_color_buffer_float'
'GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object GL_ARB_texture_compression_rgtc'
'GL_ARB_texture_float GL_ARB_texture_rectangle'
'GL_ATI_texture_compression_3dc GL_EXT_packed_float'
'GL_EXT_pixel_buffer_object GL_EXT_texture_compression_rgtc'
'GL_EXT_texture_mirror_clamp GL_EXT_texture_rectangle'
'GL_EXT_texture_sRGB GL_EXT_texture_shared_exponent'
'GL_ARB_framebuffer_object GL_EXT_framebuffer_blit'
'GL_EXT_framebuffer_multisample GL_EXT_packed_depth_stencil'
'GL_ARB_vertex_array_object GL_ATI_separate_stencil'
'GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once GL_EXT_draw_buffers2 GL_EXT_draw_instanced'
'GL_EXT_gpu_program_parameters GL_EXT_texture_array'
'GL_EXT_texture_compression_latc GL_EXT_texture_integer'
'GL_EXT_texture_sRGB_decode GL_EXT_timer_query GL_OES_EGL_image'
'GL_MESA_texture_array GL_ARB_copy_buffer GL_ARB_depth_buffer_float'
'GL_ARB_draw_instanced GL_ARB_half_float_vertex GL_ARB_instanced_arrays'
'GL_ARB_map_buffer_range GL_ARB_texture_rg GL_ARB_texture_swizzle'
'GL_ARB_vertex_array_bgra GL_EXT_texture_swizzle'
'GL_EXT_vertex_array_bgra GL_NV_conditional_render'
'GL_AMD_conservative_depth GL_ARB_ES2_compatibility'
'GL_ARB_blend_func_extended GL_ARB_debug_output'
'GL_ARB_draw_elements_base_vertex GL_ARB_explicit_attrib_location'
'GL_ARB_fragment_coord_conventions GL_ARB_provoking_vertex'
'GL_ARB_sampler_objects GL_ARB_shader_texture_lod'
'GL_ARB_uniform_buffer_object GL_EXT_provoking_vertex'
'GL_EXT_texture_snorm GL_MESA_texture_signed_rgba GL_NV_texture_barrier'
'GL_ARB_get_program_binary GL_ARB_robustness GL_ARB_shader_bit_encoding'
'GL_ARB_timer_query GL_ARB_base_instance GL_ARB_conservative_depth'
'GL_ARB_internalformat_query GL_ARB_map_buffer_alignment'
'GL_ARB_shading_language_420pack GL_ARB_shading_language_packing'
'GL_ARB_texture_storage GL_EXT_transform_feedback'
'GL_ARB_invalidate_subdata '

Hmm I see renderer: 'Gallium 0.4 on NV92' vendor: 'nouveau' I thought I had installed the proprietary nvidia drive, but apparently not. Not only that. the kmod-nvidia and kernels are out of sync. appears a new kernel is available but no nvidia driver yet. I'll update my system as soon as possible and update this problem record also. My other systems would not run Secondlife without the propriety driver. Here is my system info: **** # Blender 2.69 (sub 0) System Information **** Blender: **** version 2.69 (sub 0), revision b'unknown'. b'Release' build date: b'2014-01-01', b'09:21:33' platform: b'Linux' binary path: '/usr/bin/blender' build cflags: b' -Wall -Wcast-align -Werror=declaration-after-statement -Werror=implicit-function-declaration -Werror=return-type -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wno-char-subscripts -Wno-unknown-pragmas -Wpointer-arith -Wunused-parameter -Wwrite-strings -Wlogical-op -Wundef -Winit-self -Wnonnull -Wmissing-include-dirs -Wno-div-by-zero -Wtype-limits -Wuninitialized -Wredundant-decls -Wno-error=unused-but-set-variable -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector-strong --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -grecord-gcc-switches -m32 -march=i686 -mtune=atom -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -fPIC -funsigned-char -fno-strict-aliasing -fopenmp -msse2 -msse -pipe -fPIC -funsigned-char -fno-strict-aliasing' build cxxflags: b' -Wredundant-decls -Wall -Wno-invalid-offsetof -Wno-sign-compare -Wlogical-op -Winit-self -Wmissing-include-dirs -Wno-div-by-zero -Wtype-limits -Wuninitialized -Wundef -Wmissing-declarations -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector-strong --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -grecord-gcc-switches -m32 -march=i686 -mtune=atom -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -fPIC -funsigned-char -fno-strict-aliasing -fopenmp -msse2 -msse -pipe -fPIC -funsigned-char -fno-strict-aliasing' build linkflags: b' -pthread' build system: b'CMake' Python: **** version: 3.3.2 (default, Nov 7 2013, 10:01:52) [GCC 4.8.1 20130814 (Red Hat 4.8.1-6)] paths: '/usr/share/blender/2.69/scripts/addons' '/usr/share/blender/2.69/scripts/startup' '/usr/share/blender/2.69/scripts/modules' '/usr/lib/python33.zip' '/usr/lib/python3.3' '/usr/lib/python3.3/plat-linux' '/usr/lib/python3.3/lib-dynload' '/usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages' '/usr/share/blender/2.69/scripts/addons/modules' '/home/vince/.config/blender/2.69/scripts/addons/modules' Directories: **** scripts: ['/usr/share/blender/2.69/scripts'] user scripts: '/home/vince/.config/blender/2.69/scripts' pref scripts: None datafiles: '/home/vince/.config/blender/2.69/datafiles/' config: '/home/vince/.config/blender/2.69/config/' scripts : '/home/vince/.config/blender/2.69/scripts/' autosave: '/home/vince/.config/blender/2.69/autosave/' tempdir: '/tmp/' FFmpeg: **** Blender was built without FFmpeg support OpenGL **** renderer: 'Gallium 0.4 on NV92' vendor: 'nouveau' version: '3.0 Mesa 9.2.5' extensions: 'GL_ARB_multisample GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_blend_color' 'GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_copy_texture' 'GL_EXT_polygon_offset GL_EXT_subtexture GL_EXT_texture_object' 'GL_EXT_vertex_array GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array GL_EXT_texture' 'GL_EXT_texture3D GL_IBM_rasterpos_clip GL_ARB_point_parameters' 'GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_EXT_packed_pixels' 'GL_EXT_point_parameters GL_EXT_rescale_normal' 'GL_EXT_separate_specular_color GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp' 'GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap GL_SGIS_texture_border_clamp' 'GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp GL_SGIS_texture_lod GL_ARB_framebuffer_sRGB' 'GL_ARB_multitexture GL_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB' 'GL_IBM_multimode_draw_arrays GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat' 'GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_texture_env_add GL_ARB_transpose_matrix' 'GL_EXT_blend_func_separate GL_EXT_fog_coord GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays' 'GL_EXT_secondary_color GL_EXT_texture_env_add' 'GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias' 'GL_INGR_blend_func_separate GL_NV_blend_square' 'GL_NV_light_max_exponent GL_NV_texgen_reflection' 'GL_NV_texture_env_combine4 GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays' 'GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp GL_ARB_texture_compression' 'GL_EXT_framebuffer_object GL_EXT_texture_env_combine' 'GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3 GL_MESA_window_pos GL_NV_packed_depth_stencil' 'GL_NV_texture_rectangle GL_ARB_depth_texture GL_ARB_occlusion_query' 'GL_ARB_shadow GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar' 'GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat' 'GL_ARB_window_pos GL_EXT_stencil_two_side GL_EXT_texture_cube_map' 'GL_NV_depth_clamp GL_NV_fog_distance GL_APPLE_packed_pixels' 'GL_APPLE_vertex_array_object GL_ARB_draw_buffers' 'GL_ARB_fragment_program GL_ARB_fragment_shader GL_ARB_shader_objects' 'GL_ARB_vertex_program GL_ARB_vertex_shader GL_ATI_draw_buffers' 'GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3 GL_ATI_texture_float GL_EXT_shadow_funcs' 'GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_MESA_pack_invert GL_NV_primitive_restart' 'GL_ARB_depth_clamp GL_ARB_fragment_program_shadow' 'GL_ARB_half_float_pixel GL_ARB_occlusion_query2 GL_ARB_point_sprite' 'GL_ARB_shading_language_100 GL_ARB_sync' 'GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object' 'GL_ATI_blend_equation_separate GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate' 'GL_OES_read_format GL_ARB_color_buffer_float' 'GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object GL_ARB_texture_compression_rgtc' 'GL_ARB_texture_float GL_ARB_texture_rectangle' 'GL_ATI_texture_compression_3dc GL_EXT_packed_float' 'GL_EXT_pixel_buffer_object GL_EXT_texture_compression_rgtc' 'GL_EXT_texture_mirror_clamp GL_EXT_texture_rectangle' 'GL_EXT_texture_sRGB GL_EXT_texture_shared_exponent' 'GL_ARB_framebuffer_object GL_EXT_framebuffer_blit' 'GL_EXT_framebuffer_multisample GL_EXT_packed_depth_stencil' 'GL_ARB_vertex_array_object GL_ATI_separate_stencil' 'GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once GL_EXT_draw_buffers2 GL_EXT_draw_instanced' 'GL_EXT_gpu_program_parameters GL_EXT_texture_array' 'GL_EXT_texture_compression_latc GL_EXT_texture_integer' 'GL_EXT_texture_sRGB_decode GL_EXT_timer_query GL_OES_EGL_image' 'GL_MESA_texture_array GL_ARB_copy_buffer GL_ARB_depth_buffer_float' 'GL_ARB_draw_instanced GL_ARB_half_float_vertex GL_ARB_instanced_arrays' 'GL_ARB_map_buffer_range GL_ARB_texture_rg GL_ARB_texture_swizzle' 'GL_ARB_vertex_array_bgra GL_EXT_texture_swizzle' 'GL_EXT_vertex_array_bgra GL_NV_conditional_render' 'GL_AMD_conservative_depth GL_ARB_ES2_compatibility' 'GL_ARB_blend_func_extended GL_ARB_debug_output' 'GL_ARB_draw_elements_base_vertex GL_ARB_explicit_attrib_location' 'GL_ARB_fragment_coord_conventions GL_ARB_provoking_vertex' 'GL_ARB_sampler_objects GL_ARB_shader_texture_lod' 'GL_ARB_uniform_buffer_object GL_EXT_provoking_vertex' 'GL_EXT_texture_snorm GL_MESA_texture_signed_rgba GL_NV_texture_barrier' 'GL_ARB_get_program_binary GL_ARB_robustness GL_ARB_shader_bit_encoding' 'GL_ARB_timer_query GL_ARB_base_instance GL_ARB_conservative_depth' 'GL_ARB_internalformat_query GL_ARB_map_buffer_alignment' 'GL_ARB_shading_language_420pack GL_ARB_shading_language_packing' 'GL_ARB_texture_storage GL_EXT_transform_feedback' 'GL_ARB_invalidate_subdata '

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2014-01-14 19:48:22 +01:00

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Archived'

Brecht Van Lommel closed this issue

2014-01-14 19:48:22 +01:00

Brecht Van Lommel self-assigned this 2014-01-14 19:48:22 +01:00

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2014-01-14 19:48:22 +01:00

Ok, there's not much we can do here then, the Nouveau driver has some bugs that can cause this kind of problem. We'd like to have those resolved but don't really consider these bugs in Blender. If the proprietary drivers don't solve this problem we can reopen the report.

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object selection wrong face #38203

Blender 2.69 (sub 0) System Information