Appended object imported as linked object #41558

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opened 2014-08-24 16:04:17 +02:00 by Heiko Schmidt · 8 comments

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Blender 2.71 38cd35c 64 bit build, Windows 7 64 bit

Select the default cube and press CTRL+G to make a group and save the file.

Restart blender and select 'Link' - 'Group' - 'Group' (the Group just created) from that file.

Then select 'Append' - 'Object' - 'Cube'.

The cube appears now as linked object instead as appended object.

And a question yet to make a linked group local seems not yet implemended. Right?

**System Information** Operating system and graphics card Blender 2.71 38cd35c 64 bit build, Windows 7 64 bit Select the default cube and press CTRL+G to make a group and save the file. Restart blender and select 'Link' - 'Group' - 'Group' (the Group just created) from that file. Then select 'Append' - 'Object' - 'Cube'. The cube appears now as linked object instead as appended object. And a question yet to make a linked group local seems not yet implemended. Right?
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Changed status to: 'Open'

Changed status to: 'Open'
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Added subscriber: @heik

Added subscriber: @heik

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Duplicate'

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Duplicate'

✘ Merged into #36297.

✘ Merged into #36297.

Added subscriber: @ideasman42

Added subscriber: @ideasman42

Note, you can select the object and make it local. (Object -> Make Local), and you can make the group local from the outliner.

Note, you can select the object and make it local. (Object -> Make Local), and you can make the group local from the outliner.
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Campbell, what is described in #36297 or better in the blender artist thread is not the problem I've tried to explain here.

After linking to a group which contains an object 'xyz' and then trying to append this object 'xyz' it is linked instead. This is imho not correct and maybe confusing at least for new users.

Campbell, what is described in #36297 or better in the blender artist thread is not the problem I've tried to explain here. After linking to a group which contains an object 'xyz' and then trying to append this object 'xyz' it is linked instead. This is imho not correct and maybe confusing at least for new users.

@heik the issue here is that appending data thats already linked is problematic because existing linked data may reference it.

In simple cases this could be supported using some rule like: "If you directly append an object and its already linked, then make it local".

But this gets complicated since appending isn't just adding direct links, it links obdata and materials too, should it expand those or not (its an option you get when making local).
And then you have to deal with linked data which isn't appended but may share materials for eg, with the object being appended.

Even though #36297, reads a bit different. its basically the same issue (the fact that user deletes and re-appends isn't significant)

@heik the issue here is that appending data thats already linked is problematic because existing linked data may reference it. In simple cases this could be supported using some rule like: *"If you directly append an object and its already linked, then make it local"*. But this gets complicated since appending isn't just adding direct links, it links obdata and materials too, should it expand those or not (its an option you get when making local). And then you have to deal with linked data which isn't appended but may share materials for eg, with the object being appended. Even though #36297, reads a bit different. its basically the same issue (the fact that user deletes and re-appends isn't significant)
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