Multi-value editing seems sometimes inconsistent from user point of view. #44695

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ronan ducluzeau · 2015-05-13T15:21:29+02:00

ronan ducluzeau commented

2015-05-13 15:21:29 +02:00

System Information
Ubuntu 14.04 64 bits Nvidia Titan Black
Blender Version
Broken: 1a0fb7e

Short description of error
Multi-value editing works between modifiers sharing same name.
It works between smoke flows of different types (fire, smoke,fire+smoke), between force fields of different types(Wind,Force..).
But it does not work between fluid and fluid inflows.
It works for illumination between lamps of different types. But it does not for shadows.

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error
Based on a (as simple as possible) attached .blend file with minimum amount of steps
MVE_unconsistency.blend

In this file, multi-value editing can give same Energy Color to selected lamps.
But it can not do it for Shadow Color, this layer only, only shadow options.
Spotlight settings are not changed. But they have same shadow type.

In scene.001, lamp type is the same. They are all spots with different buffer shadow types.
Multi-Value Editing works for shadow bias.

**System Information** Ubuntu 14.04 64 bits Nvidia Titan Black **Blender Version** Broken: 1a0fb7e **Short description of error** Multi-value editing works between modifiers sharing same name. It works between smoke flows of different types (fire, smoke,fire+smoke), between force fields of different types(Wind,Force..). But it does not work between fluid and fluid inflows. It works for illumination between lamps of different types. But it does not for shadows. **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** Based on a (as simple as possible) attached .blend file with minimum amount of steps [MVE_unconsistency.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F174018/MVE_unconsistency.blend) In this file, multi-value editing can give same Energy Color to selected lamps. But it can not do it for Shadow Color, this layer only, only shadow options. Spotlight settings are not changed. But they have same shadow type. In scene.001, lamp type is the same. They are all spots with different buffer shadow types. Multi-Value Editing works for shadow bias.

ronan ducluzeau commented

2015-05-13 15:21:29 +02:00

Changed status to: 'Open'

ronan ducluzeau commented

2015-05-13 15:21:29 +02:00

Added subscriber: @zeauro

Campbell Barton commented

2015-05-14 01:28:28 +02:00

Added subscriber: @ideasman42

Campbell Barton commented

2015-05-14 01:28:28 +02:00

Currently lamps define different shadow properties for every lamp type, so the code that compares properties match will fail and not see them as being the same, even though from the user perspective they are.

This could be made to work - we could have some more comprehensive property comparison that checks callbacks match... or we could try having a way to not duplicate the properties to begin with. (though checked on this and it doesn't seem so trivial unless we do some trick with an intermediate ShadowLamp type which isn't used by HemiLamp 's, though this seems overkill)

This is more of a TODO then a bug, but would be good to resolve still

Currently lamps define different shadow properties for every lamp type, so the code that compares properties match will fail and not see them as being the same, even though from the user perspective they are. This could be made to work - we could have some more comprehensive property comparison that checks callbacks match... or we could try having a way to not duplicate the properties to begin with. *(though checked on this and it doesn't seem so trivial unless we do some trick with an intermediate `ShadowLamp` type which isn't used by `HemiLamp` 's, though this seems overkill)* This is more of a TODO then a bug, but would be good to resolve still

Campbell Barton was assigned by Bastien Montagne

2015-05-15 11:27:50 +02:00

ronan ducluzeau commented

2015-05-16 10:58:47 +02:00

I made a thread on Blender Artists to collect feedback and to discuss status of the feature.
http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?371132-Multi-Object-Editing_Copy-To-Selected-Workflow&p=2870294#post2870294

I made a thread on Blender Artists to collect feedback and to discuss status of the feature. http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?371132-Multi-Object-Editing_Copy-To-Selected-Workflow&p=2870294#post2870294

Julian Eisel commented

2015-09-05 20:26:59 +02:00

Closed as duplicate of #44666

Julian Eisel closed this issue

2015-09-05 20:26:59 +02:00

Julian Eisel commented

2015-09-05 20:33:05 +02:00

Added subscriber: @JulianEisel

Julian Eisel commented

2015-09-05 20:33:05 +02:00

Merged this into #44666, it's the general design task for such issues, so no need to keep this.

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Multi-value editing seems sometimes inconsistent from user point of view. #44695