New Depsgraph: Making local a linked group, it doesn't respect an Action till reloading the file or deleting the linked group. #46243

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Mario Mey · 2015-09-24T17:45:55+02:00

Mario Mey commented

2015-09-24 17:45:55 +02:00

The 76a_duplicate_make_local.blend has a group with an armature and a cube parented to the bone.
The 76b_duplicate_make_local.blend has that group linked and the armature proxied. The new armature grupo_proxy has an action.

Open the file 76b_duplicate_make_local.blend
Select and delete "grupo_proxy".
Select group "grupo" and Ctrl-Shift-A, to Make Duplicate Real it. Check "Keep Hirarchy".
Assign the previous action "grupo_proxyAction" to the armature "Armature".
Try changing the frame through the timeline: the armature doesn't respect the action.

Workarrounds:

Delete the empty "grupo" (it was the linked group): the armature moves.
Or:
Save and reload the file: it moves.

76a-duplicate-make-local.blend

76b-duplicate-make-local.blend

The 76a_duplicate_make_local.blend has a group with an armature and a cube parented to the bone. The 76b_duplicate_make_local.blend has that group linked and the armature proxied. The new armature grupo_proxy has an action. - Open the file 76b_duplicate_make_local.blend - Select and delete "grupo_proxy". - Select group "grupo" and Ctrl-Shift-A, to Make Duplicate Real it. Check "Keep Hirarchy". - Assign the previous action "grupo_proxyAction" to the armature "Armature". - Try changing the frame through the timeline: the armature doesn't respect the action. Workarrounds: - Delete the empty "grupo" (it was the linked group): the armature moves. Or: - Save and reload the file: it moves. [76a-duplicate-make-local.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F238591/76a-duplicate-make-local.blend) [76b-duplicate-make-local.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F238592/76b-duplicate-make-local.blend)

Mario Mey commented

2015-09-24 17:45:55 +02:00

Changed status to: 'Open'

Mario Mey commented

2015-09-24 17:45:55 +02:00

Added subscriber: @MarioSottile

Aaron Carlisle commented

2015-09-24 19:18:04 +02:00

Added subscriber: @Blendify

Bastien Montagne commented

2015-09-25 14:51:34 +02:00

Added subscriber: @mont29

Bastien Montagne commented

2015-09-25 14:51:34 +02:00

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Archived'

Bastien Montagne closed this issue

2015-09-25 14:51:34 +02:00

Bastien Montagne self-assigned this 2015-09-25 14:51:34 +02:00

Bastien Montagne commented

2015-09-25 14:51:34 +02:00

Once again, please follow our submission template and guidelines next time, and include blender version (and test with latest builds from our buildbot too!)… Cannot reproduce this here with latest master, seems to work as expected, closing for now.

Once again, please follow our submission template and guidelines next time, and include blender version (and test with latest builds from [our buildbot](https://builder.blender.org/download) too!)… Cannot reproduce this here with latest master, seems to work as expected, closing for now.

Mario Mey commented

2015-09-25 15:45:53 +02:00

Sorry again.

System: Ubuntu Mate 14.04 x64, nVidia GT620

Blender version: 2.76-rc2 (from blender.org) with new depsgraph.
Recently tested: de80e69 (from builder) with new depsgraph.

The bug is in the new depsgraph. Using old depsgraph, it works as spected.

I modified a little the files and made a video to understand.

76b-bug.mp4

76b-duplicate-make-local.blend

76a-duplicate-make-local.blend

Sorry again. System: Ubuntu Mate 14.04 x64, nVidia GT620 Blender version: 2.76-rc2 (from blender.org) with new depsgraph. Recently tested: de80e69 (from builder) with new depsgraph. **The bug is in the new depsgraph.** Using old depsgraph, it works as spected. I modified a little the files and made a video to understand. [76b-bug.mp4](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F239037/76b-bug.mp4) [76b-duplicate-make-local.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F239033/76b-duplicate-make-local.blend) [76a-duplicate-make-local.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F239034/76a-duplicate-make-local.blend)

Bastien Montagne commented

2015-09-25 15:59:20 +02:00

Changed status from 'Archived' to: 'Open'

Bastien Montagne reopened this issue

2015-09-25 15:59:20 +02:00

Bastien Montagne commented

2015-09-25 15:59:20 +02:00

Oh yes, indeed, noting that issue is with new depsgraph is kind of… fundamental here! sigh

Oh yes, indeed, noting that issue is with new depsgraph is kind of… fundamental here! *sigh*

Bastien Montagne removed their assignment 2015-09-25 15:59:59 +02:00

Sergey Sharybin was assigned by Bastien Montagne

2015-09-25 15:59:59 +02:00

Bastien Montagne commented

2015-09-25 15:59:59 +02:00

Added subscribers: @Sergey, @JoshuaLeung

Bastien Montagne commented

2015-09-25 15:59:59 +02:00

@Sergey, @JoshuaLeung, this one is for you guys. :)

Bastien Montagne changed title from ~~Making local a linked group, it doesn't respect an Action till reloading the file or deleting the linked group.~~ to New Depsgraph: Making local a linked group, it doesn't respect an Action till reloading the file or deleting the linked group.

2015-09-25 16:01:00 +02:00

Lukas Tönne commented

2015-09-26 10:35:50 +02:00

Added subscriber: @LukasTonne

Lukas Tönne commented

2015-09-26 10:35:50 +02:00

This is probably another case where the depsgraph simply isn't rebuilt when needed. For example, adding any new object will also "fix" the problem, no need to reload the whole file.

BTW i noticed a similar thing with rigid bodies with new depsgraph, where simply enabling "Rigid Body" in the physics buttons does not rebuild the depsgraph by itself, but works fine after forcing an update through another method (e.g. adding an object).

Hopefully there is a generic solution to rebuilding the new depsgraph, without having to go through every single potential case?

This is probably another case where the depsgraph simply isn't rebuilt when needed. For example, adding any new object will also "fix" the problem, no need to reload the whole file. BTW i noticed a similar thing with rigid bodies with new depsgraph, where simply enabling "Rigid Body" in the physics buttons does not rebuild the depsgraph by itself, but works fine after forcing an update through another method (e.g. adding an object). Hopefully there is a generic solution to rebuilding the new depsgraph, without having to go through every single potential case?

blender-admin commented

2016-01-20 10:32:14 +01:00

This issue was referenced by 90bac235ea

This issue was referenced by 90bac235eaac6c026d552fc46fe26f86c52c8230

Sergey Sharybin commented

2016-01-20 10:32:55 +01:00

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Resolved'

Sergey Sharybin closed this issue

2016-01-20 10:32:55 +01:00

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New Depsgraph: Making local a linked group, it doesn't respect an Action till reloading the file or deleting the linked group. #46243