Material menu length problem #49601

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Alma Talp · 2016-10-07T18:39:28+02:00

Alma Talp commented

2016-10-07 18:39:28 +02:00

I use long material and object names in Blender with a reason (Win7 64 bit) on Blender 2.74.
Yesterday a realized that 2.78 fails to display long material names (see screenshot), instead of 30 it displays only 26 characters what makes my former naming rules unusable.
Ideal working method would be to extend the menu length to actual material name length, but displaying minimum 40 characters.

Thanks

I use long material and object names in Blender with a reason (Win7 64 bit) on Blender 2.74. Yesterday a realized that 2.78 fails to display long material names (see screenshot), instead of 30 it displays only 26 characters what makes my former naming rules unusable. Ideal working method would be to extend the menu length to actual material name length, but displaying minimum 40 characters. Thanks ![blender error.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F375153/blender_error.png)

Alma Talp commented

2016-10-07 18:39:28 +02:00

Changed status to: 'Open'

Alma Talp commented

2016-10-07 18:39:28 +02:00

Added subscriber: @AlmaTalp

Bastien Montagne was assigned by Aaron Carlisle

2016-10-07 20:12:26 +02:00

Bastien Montagne commented

2016-10-08 00:24:55 +02:00

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Archived'

Bastien Montagne closed this issue

2016-10-08 00:24:55 +02:00

Bastien Montagne commented

2016-10-08 00:24:55 +02:00

Thanks for the report, but there is no bug here. We cannot afford too long stuff in UI, and this change was made because in the vast majority of cases, when you cannot display the whole name, it’s much, much more useful to see its start end ends, than only its starting part (canonical example here are names ending with numbers).

Alma Talp commented

2016-10-08 00:30:44 +02:00

Thanks, but I think it is a wrong direction; I completely agree with the fact that seeing end is more important but I cannot see any valid reason for shortening display from 30 to 26 as the GUI is completely configurable (so logical approach would that these 'pop-up' menus would follow the size of the GUI elements.

Please, do not ignore it; at least change it back to the former length.

Thanks, but I think it is a wrong direction; I completely agree with the fact that seeing end is more important but I cannot see _any valid_ reason for shortening display from 30 to 26 as the GUI is completely configurable (so logical approach would that these 'pop-up' menus would follow the size of the GUI elements. Please, do not ignore it; at least change it back to the former length.

Alma Talp commented

2016-10-08 00:31:22 +02:00

Changed status from 'Archived' to: 'Open'

Alma Talp reopened this issue

2016-10-08 00:31:22 +02:00

Bastien Montagne commented

2016-10-08 11:12:32 +02:00

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Archived'

Bastien Montagne closed this issue

2016-10-08 11:12:32 +02:00

Bastien Montagne commented

2016-10-08 11:12:33 +02:00

The length remains the same, you lose some letters because of the '...'
Remaining is a feature request, not a bug report, and is not accepted on this tracker. General design etc. discussion is not done here.
Please do not reopen tasks like that, tracker management is dev work.

* The length remains the same, you lose some letters because of the '...' * Remaining is a feature request, not a bug report, and is not accepted on this tracker. General design etc. discussion is not done here. * Please do not reopen tasks like that, tracker management is dev work.

Bastien Montagne removed their assignment 2016-10-08 11:13:12 +02:00

Bastien Montagne commented

2016-10-08 11:13:12 +02:00

Added subscriber: @mont29

Bastien Montagne commented

2016-10-08 11:13:12 +02:00

And I do not see why this was assigned to me in the first place, btw…

Alma Talp commented

2016-10-08 17:05:06 +02:00

'The length remains the same, you lose some letters because of the '...''

Yep, that is not what is happening, see the screenshots please.

'Remaining is a feature request, not a bug report, and is not accepted on this tracker. General design etc. discussion is not done here.'

I don't necessarily ask for a new request, I noted the change as a behaviour like a bug.
Where and who will decide about it; how can I contect that person?

'Please do not reopen tasks like that, tracker management is dev work.

Sorry for that.

*'The length remains the same, you lose some letters because of the '...''* Yep, that is not what is happening, see the screenshots please. *'Remaining is a feature request, not a bug report, and is not accepted on this tracker. General design etc. discussion is not done here.'* I don't necessarily ask for a new request, I noted the change as a behaviour like a bug. Where and who will decide about it; how can I contect that person? *'Please do not reopen tasks like that, tracker management is dev work.* Sorry for that.

Bastien Montagne commented

2016-10-08 17:09:11 +02:00

Added subscriber: @JulianEisel

Bastien Montagne commented

2016-10-08 17:09:11 +02:00

That kind of discussion should ideally happen on ML (bf-committers@blender.org). @JulianEisel might also be interested here?

Alma Talp commented

2016-10-08 17:10:10 +02:00

Thank you, Bastien!

Alma Talp commented

2016-10-08 17:11:03 +02:00

I tried to write formerly on ML but my emails never appeared.

Bastien Montagne commented

2016-10-08 17:59:46 +02:00

Uh, think you need to register first (https://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers), otherwise your mails have to be manually approved, which can take some time, especially on week-ends ;)

Alma Talp commented

2016-10-08 18:31:26 +02:00

Thank you, I was subscribed, but now I did it again. Hopefully it will work.

Alma Talp commented

2016-10-08 18:41:41 +02:00

May I have another question? I have an addon to replace one of the actual functions in a far better way related to Image Editor. Who is the contact person for that? Thanks.

Bastien Montagne commented

2016-10-08 19:01:16 +02:00

Please create a diff

Please [create a diff](https://developer.blender.org/differential/diff/create/)

Alma Talp commented

2016-10-08 19:09:37 +02:00

Thanks!

Alma Talp commented

2016-10-14 06:38:36 +02:00

Hello Bastien,

I sent the material name length problem to the bf committter list, but seems not to get any response. Is there a way to investigate who made the changes in the material menu? I would like to contact him directly.

Thanks

Alma

Hello Bastien, I sent the material name length problem to the bf committter list, but seems not to get any response. Is there a way to investigate who made the changes in the material menu? I would like to contact him directly. Thanks Alma

Bastien Montagne commented

2016-10-14 08:32:52 +02:00

Hey Alma,
Think only realistic way is to build blender and then bisect until you find the commit… I’ll try to do that.

Hey Alma, Think only realistic way is to build blender and then bisect until you find the commit… I’ll try to do that.

Alma Talp commented

2016-10-14 08:36:44 +02:00

Hello Bastien, thanks.
Let me to be honest I don't even know what you are talking about. I'm just guessing (compiling on my machine a new Blender executable?):)

Thanks for trying to find it! Could I send you a Paypal donation for a beer as a thank you?

Hello Bastien, thanks. Let me to be honest I don't even know what you are talking about. I'm just guessing (compiling on my machine a new Blender executable?):) Thanks for trying to find it! Could I send you a Paypal donation for a beer as a thank you?

Bastien Montagne self-assigned this 2016-10-14 10:15:43 +02:00

Bastien Montagne commented

2016-10-14 10:15:43 +02:00

Changed status from 'Archived' to: 'Open'

Bastien Montagne reopened this issue

2016-10-14 10:15:43 +02:00

Bastien Montagne commented

2016-10-14 10:15:43 +02:00

Hrmmm… bisect shows it comes from 69b66d549b

Which makes it an unwanted regression since 2.77 :/

Hrmmm… bisect shows it comes from 69b66d549b Which makes it an unwanted regression since 2.77 :/

blender-admin commented

2016-10-14 10:29:51 +02:00

This issue was referenced by 49c2dbc5db

This issue was referenced by 49c2dbc5dbaefd3a2ff950dbb33e6190885d347e

Bastien Montagne commented

2016-10-14 10:46:29 +02:00

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Resolved'

Bastien Montagne closed this issue

2016-10-14 10:46:29 +02:00

Bastien Montagne commented

2016-10-14 10:46:39 +02:00

Bah, stupid regression really… thanks for pushing on this one anyway! ;)

Alma Talp commented

2016-10-14 11:22:42 +02:00

Thank you, Bastien! As the new '...' function removes 3 characters from the current length, will it be able to add some additional characters (maybe the way I described it in the first post)?

Thanks

Thank you, Bastien! As the new '...' function removes 3 characters from the current length, will it be able to add some additional characters (maybe the way I described it in the first post)? Thanks

Bastien Montagne commented

2016-10-14 11:57:27 +02:00

Well… not that easily, we'd have to check all materials' length before setting searchmenu's width, would rather avoid that, so afraid we are stuck to fixed width for now.

Alma Talp commented

2016-10-14 12:01:08 +02:00

I see, thanks.

Then is it possible to rise the width to 40 characters? Original was 30, with the new '...' added + the regression it is 23; to get the same function it should be 33 characters with the fix it will get, but 40 would be better for huge material library for teamwork.

Thanks.

I see, thanks. Then is it possible to rise the width to 40 characters? Original was 30, with the new '...' added + the regression it is 23; to get the same function it should be 33 characters with the fix it will get, but 40 would be better for huge material library for teamwork. Thanks.

Alma Talp commented

2018-10-03 13:59:33 +02:00

Hello,

did anything happened to resolve this issue? I cannot see any changes, 2.79 still acts the same way, making me to stick with old Blender versions.

Thanks

Hello, did anything happened to resolve this issue? I cannot see any changes, 2.79 still acts the same way, making me to stick with old Blender versions. Thanks

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Material menu length problem #49601