UNBELIEVEABLE AXIS BUG ( still since many versions ) #52808

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wueo · 2017-09-18T05:31:19+02:00

wueo commented

2017-09-18 05:31:19 +02:00

Blender Version
Broken: (example: 2.79

Short description of error
objects duplication feature axis not Z and same is in particles....

i took Cone object and parented it to sphere object... and used the duplication feature on the parent object in properties window in object tab and enabled Verts and rotation option and i couldnt understand why the cone not showing spike wrongly... found out after HOUR that it need to be on -Y axis even it says in the rotation option description that its along the normals... . UNBELIEVEABLE logic. same nonsense is with particles rotation options.. it just makes blender life harder...

let me explain why this is a BUG , imagine Blender noob want to create trees on (spherical) planet with dupli feature or particles system. and dont understand why this tree is not pointing to outside.... i think from world peoples view it would be most sense if Z AXIS is the TOP . no 1 makes tree in the - Y axis !!!

whole blender world makes addon that Z axis is pointing to the sky and so should be dupli and particles rotaion setup

PLS FIX THIS ALREADY

**Blender Version** Broken: (example: 2.79 **Short description of error** objects duplication feature axis not Z and same is in particles.... i took Cone object and parented it to sphere object... and used the duplication feature on the parent object in properties window in object tab and enabled Verts and rotation option and i couldnt understand why the cone not showing spike wrongly... found out after HOUR that it need to be on -Y axis even it says in the rotation option description that its along the normals... . UNBELIEVEABLE logic. same nonsense is with particles rotation options.. it just makes blender life harder... let me explain why this is a BUG , imagine Blender noob want to create trees on (spherical) planet with dupli feature or particles system. and dont understand why this tree is not pointing to outside.... i think from world peoples view it would be most sense if Z AXIS is the TOP . no 1 makes tree in the - Y axis !!! whole blender world makes addon that Z axis is pointing to the sky and so should be dupli and particles rotaion setup PLS FIX THIS ALREADY ![UNBELEICEABLE AXIS BUG.jpg](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F808321/UNBELEICEABLE_AXIS_BUG.jpg) ![particles AXIS chaos.jpg](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F808324/particles_AXIS__chaos.jpg)

wueo commented

2017-09-18 05:31:19 +02:00

Changed status to: 'Open'

wueo commented

2017-09-18 05:31:19 +02:00

Added subscriber: @mushroomeo

Joshua Leung commented

2017-09-18 06:12:48 +02:00

Added subscriber: @JoshuaLeung

Joshua Leung commented

2017-09-18 06:12:48 +02:00

Please include a simple .blend file which demonstrates this problem.

wueo commented

2017-09-18 07:53:33 +02:00

Dupli and particles rotation bugs.blend

[Dupli and particles rotation bugs.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F808420/Dupli_and_particles_rotation_bugs.blend)

Adam Dominec commented

2017-09-19 14:20:38 +02:00

Added subscriber: @emu-3

Adam Dominec commented

2017-09-19 14:20:38 +02:00

In fact, there is an inconsistency between Face duplication (Z to Z) and Vertex duplication (Z to -Y).

Adam Dominec commented

2017-09-19 14:21:01 +02:00

Removed subscriber: @emu-3

Vuk Gardašević commented

2017-09-19 17:52:56 +02:00

Added subscriber: @VukGardasevic

Vuk Gardašević commented

2017-09-19 17:52:56 +02:00

Since the file was included, changing priority.

Joel Godin commented

2017-09-20 11:58:27 +02:00

Added subscriber: @FloridaJo

Joel Godin commented

2017-09-20 11:58:27 +02:00

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Archived'

Joel Godin closed this issue

2017-09-20 11:58:27 +02:00

Joel Godin self-assigned this 2017-09-20 11:58:27 +02:00

Joel Godin commented

2017-09-20 11:58:27 +02:00

Yes, but it's been like that for eons. Possible because in 2D 'Y' is up, and 3D (blender and others not to mention CNC) Z is up.
Anyway, to change it now would break all files back to 2.46.
Not a bug, sorry.

Yes, but it's been like that for eons. Possible because in 2D 'Y' is up, and 3D (blender and others not to mention CNC) Z is up. Anyway, to change it now would break all files back to 2.46. Not a bug, sorry.

Adam Dominec commented

2017-09-26 11:48:17 +02:00

Well, so maybe 2.8 could be a good point to make this change..?

I agree with the author of this wannabe bug report that these inconsistencies are a huge pain. This specific issue might be a reason I always use face duplication instead of dupliverts.

2.8 is supposed to be a huge improvement in workflow, and it will break backward compatibility in many regards, anyway.

Well, so maybe 2.8 could be a good point to make this change..? I agree with the author of this wannabe bug report that these inconsistencies are a huge pain. This specific issue might be a reason I always use face duplication instead of dupliverts. 2.8 is supposed to be a huge improvement in workflow, and it will break backward compatibility in many regards, anyway.

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UNBELIEVEABLE AXIS BUG ( still since many versions ) #52808