UI Fonts broken #56376

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opened 2018-08-14 10:30:25 +02:00 by ronald engel · 14 comments

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Broken: 2.79.6
Worked: 2.79 (and 2.79.4)

The UI fonts are ugly, kerning seems broken (?). We made some gifs which show the problem. It might seem marginal but readability really goes down (see node editor gif).

blender_ui_typo_2.gif

blender_ui_typo_1.gif

**System Information** All operation Systems (Windows 10 64 bit, OSX 10.11.6, Ubuntu 17.10 Gnome) **Blender Version** Broken: 2.79.6 Worked: 2.79 (and 2.79.4) The UI fonts are ugly, kerning seems broken (?). We made some gifs which show the problem. It might seem marginal but readability really goes down (see node editor gif). ![blender_ui_typo_2.gif](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F4222085/blender_ui_typo_2.gif) ![blender_ui_typo_1.gif](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F4222084/blender_ui_typo_1.gif)
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You can disable "Text Hinting" in User Preferences > System.

It seems to be related to this D3581.

You can disable "Text Hinting" in User Preferences > System. It seems to be related to this [D3581](https://archive.blender.org/developer/D3581).
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Thank you! It was really no pleasure to work with blender the last couple of days ;)

Shouldn't it be disabled per default to keep the "normal" look then?

Thank you! It was really no pleasure to work with blender the last couple of days ;) Shouldn't it be disabled per default to keep the "normal" look then?

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Campbell Barton was assigned by Bastien Montagne 2018-08-14 15:51:23 +02:00

Change caused by 18888b7b0c. So would say that is expected behavior, will let @ideasman42 make final decision here though.

Change caused by 18888b7b0c. So would say that is expected behavior, will let @ideasman42 make final decision here though.
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there's some discussion about this in D3581 as well.

there's some discussion about this in [D3581](https://archive.blender.org/developer/D3581) as well.

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Hinting can sometimes add space between characters, but that does seem rather a lot.

Also, the characters on the unhinted example are running into each other slightly which is exaggerating the difference.

A comparison of Droid Sans in Freetype's font viewer (ftview) on Linux, as close to the same point size as I could get it:
2018-08-14_freetype_viewer_droidsans_hinting_spacing.gif
(v35 interpreter)
The char spacing between the hinted and unhinted is very similar, but the former being marginally narrower.

Hinting can sometimes add space between characters, but that does seem rather a lot. Also, the characters on the unhinted example are running into each other slightly which is exaggerating the difference. A comparison of Droid Sans in Freetype's font viewer (ftview) on Linux, as close to the same point size as I could get it: ![2018-08-14_freetype_viewer_droidsans_hinting_spacing.gif](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F4228353/2018-08-14_freetype_viewer_droidsans_hinting_spacing.gif) (v35 interpreter) The char spacing between the hinted and unhinted is very similar, but the former being marginally narrower.

Default font and zoom size, hinted looks terrible:

default-font-unhinted.png default-font.png

Arial font (standard Windows 7), not much difference, hinted more crisp:

arial-font-unhinted.png arial-font.png
Default font and zoom size, hinted looks terrible: | ![default-font-unhinted.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F4232425/default-font-unhinted.png) | ![default-font.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F4232424/default-font.png) | | -- | -- | Arial font (standard Windows 7), not much difference, hinted more crisp: | ![arial-font-unhinted.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F4232423/arial-font-unhinted.png) | ![arial-font.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F4232422/arial-font.png) | | -- | -- |

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Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Resolved'

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Resolved'

The change that caused this problem was reverted, so it should be solved.

The change that caused this problem was reverted, so it should be solved.
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