Viewport Performance #61060

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opened 2019-01-31 13:41:00 +01:00 by o.knipp · 35 comments

System Information
Operating system: Windows 10 1803
Graphics card: 1x RTX 2080 / 2x RTX 2070
GPU Driver: 417.71
CPU: 2x Intel Xeon E5-2697v2
Ram: 64 GB

Blender Version
Broken:
2.80.43

Short description of error
When Playing the annimation in the Viewport iam only getting 15 fps. That`s in Evvee and Shade mode. If i use Solid mode i get 30 fps. On another Workstation:

CPU: I7 8700K
GPU: RTX 2080
Ram: 64GB

I have 30 FPS in Every Shading mode.

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error
Hit the Spacebar to Play the Annimation in the Viewport.

**System Information** Operating system: Windows 10 1803 Graphics card: 1x RTX 2080 / 2x RTX 2070 GPU Driver: 417.71 CPU: 2x Intel Xeon E5-2697v2 Ram: 64 GB **Blender Version** Broken: 2.80.43 **Short description of error** When Playing the annimation in the Viewport iam only getting 15 fps. That`s in Evvee and Shade mode. If i use Solid mode i get 30 fps. On another Workstation: CPU: I7 8700K GPU: RTX 2080 Ram: 64GB I have 30 FPS in Every Shading mode. **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** Hit the Spacebar to Play the Annimation in the Viewport.
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Added subscriber: @ok-4

Added subscriber: @ok-4

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Can you supply an example blend where this applies?

Can you supply an example blend where this applies?
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[Montagevideo.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F6464422/Montagevideo.blend)

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If I get this correctly, you are saying that you get 30fps on one of your computers but 15fps on an other computer?

What is your CPU usage like? Is it maxed out?

If I get this correctly, you are saying that you get 30fps on one of your computers but 15fps on an other computer? What is your CPU usage like? Is it maxed out?

I guess the point he is trying to make, is that it runs faster on an ostensibly slower system with an older GPU than a faster one. I also get 30 fps here on an Intel Core i5 in Solid mode, but very low performance in LookDev or Rendered mode.

I guess the point he is trying to make, is that it runs faster on an ostensibly slower system with an older GPU than a faster one. I also get 30 fps here on an Intel Core i5 in Solid mode, but very low performance in LookDev or Rendered mode.
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Yes you are right. My Workstation must have better performance considering it`s specs. See the Screenshot{F6464564}

Yes you are right. My Workstation must have better performance considering it`s specs. See the Screenshot{[F6464564](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F6464564/Viewport_slow.png)}

As you can see here: https://browser.geekbench.com/processors/1034
The single core performance of the Xeon is way lower than that of a i5 or i7 (because of lower clocks).

So if I took a wild guess, this is because the Xeon is now bottle necked by it's single core performance in this case and thus can only manage 15fps.
But we won't know until we check the CPU usage.

As you can see here: https://browser.geekbench.com/processors/1034 The single core performance of the Xeon is way lower than that of a i5 or i7 (because of lower clocks). So if I took a wild guess, this is because the Xeon is now bottle necked by it's single core performance in this case and thus can only manage 15fps. But we won't know until we check the CPU usage.
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You can see the CPU usage in my last Picture attachment. It`s 6%.

You can see the CPU usage in my last Picture attachment. It`s 6%.

@ok-4 how does the CPU usage look on the i7?

@ok-4 how does the CPU usage look on the i7?
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With I7-5820K we have 10%

With I7-5820K we have 10%

I mean the usage on all cores. In you xeon cpu usage picture we could see that one core has a lot higher usage than the others (seems that core has around 80% usage or so).

I mean the usage on all cores. In you xeon cpu usage picture we could see that one core has a lot higher usage than the others (seems that core has around 80% usage or so).
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I have taken another screenshot from the I7 Workstation. Unbenannt.png

I have taken another screenshot from the I7 Workstation. ![Unbenannt.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F6464724/Unbenannt.png)

Added subscriber: @fclem

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Yeah, it seems like only one core is being stressed on both systems (and the GPU usage doesn't seem high either).

And on your i7 system it seems like the single core is being used less.

@fclem, do you think there could be something else dragging down the performance in viewport?

Yeah, it seems like only one core is being stressed on both systems (and the GPU usage doesn't seem high either). And on your i7 system it seems like the single core is being used less. @fclem, do you think there could be something else dragging down the performance in viewport?

@ok-4 BTW, could you set the screen resolution to be the same on both computers and test?

@ok-4 BTW, could you set the screen resolution to be the same on both computers and test?
Author

I have set the Resolution on both PC to 1920x1200. FPS is stil bad. In my Scene is a Collection called "Annimierte Objekte". If you click on the Eyedroper to hide it while you Play the animation the performance is significantly better. But in my Opinion the animated objetcts in this Collection should be easily handeld by an RTX 2080 GPU.

I have set the Resolution on both PC to 1920x1200. FPS is stil bad. In my Scene is a Collection called "Annimierte Objekte". If you click on the Eyedroper to hide it while you Play the animation the performance is significantly better. But in my Opinion the animated objetcts in this Collection should be easily handeld by an RTX 2080 GPU.

Yes the drawing code is still not multi-threaded. More works needs to be done before it happens.

Yes the drawing code is still not multi-threaded. More works needs to be done before it happens.
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Do you think this bad performance comes from the CPU or GPU?

Do you think this bad performance comes from the CPU or GPU?

You can see how much time is spend on both by setting the debug value (F3 > debug value) to 23. Everything above GPU Memory stats is CPU related.

Do note that theses timings are not very precise but can reveal a bottleneck.

You can see how much time is spend on both by setting the debug value (F3 > debug value) to 23. Everything above GPU Memory stats is CPU related. Do note that theses timings are not very precise but can reveal a bottleneck.

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The i7 has much better single core performance than the Xeon, so the FPS would make sense if this was single threaded CPU bound.

The i7 has much better single core performance than the Xeon, so the FPS would make sense if this was single threaded CPU bound.
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Thank you for your help so far. Here is a Picture with the Debug Mode on. With and without the "Annimierte Objekte" Collection. Could you explain me what causes the Bottelneck? Is there to much geometry for one CPU Core to handle?Debug01.png

Thank you for your help so far. Here is a Picture with the Debug Mode on. With and without the "Annimierte Objekte" Collection. Could you explain me what causes the Bottelneck? Is there to much geometry for one CPU Core to handle?![Debug01.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F6473554/Debug01.png)

Yes it seems that the bottleneck is the time to prepare the animated geometry on the CPU.

The gpu timings seems quite higher too but I would say it's because of driver overheads that are more noticeable on the Xeon that is less optimized for Single Threaded task.

Yes it seems that the bottleneck is the time to prepare the animated geometry on the CPU. The gpu timings seems quite higher too but I would say it's because of driver overheads that are more noticeable on the Xeon that is less optimized for Single Threaded task.

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Clément Foucault was assigned by Bastien Montagne 2019-03-18 18:01:50 +01:00

@fclem assigning to you for now, feel free to re-assign.

@fclem assigning to you for now, feel free to re-assign.
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Okay thank you for your advice. Is it possible to implement the preparation of the animated geometry to be multi-threaded? Maybe in 2.81?

Okay thank you for your advice. Is it possible to implement the preparation of the animated geometry to be multi-threaded? Maybe in 2.81?

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Amd user here with a 1700x. I’ve overclocked the bugger to 3.9ghz. Even then viewport performance is terrible. Even going into local view, which in 2.79 boosted fps and you could animate in that mode, that doesnt work in 2.8. Another note is that stuff hidden, it still effects the fps. The only fix ive sorta found is to go and move what ever rig you have, into another file out of the scene and animate it there. Or bite the bullet and go back to 2.79.

Amd user here with a 1700x. I’ve overclocked the bugger to 3.9ghz. Even then viewport performance is terrible. Even going into local view, which in 2.79 boosted fps and you could animate in that mode, that doesnt work in 2.8. Another note is that stuff hidden, it still effects the fps. The only fix ive sorta found is to go and move what ever rig you have, into another file out of the scene and animate it there. Or bite the bullet and go back to 2.79.
Clément Foucault was unassigned by Dalai Felinto 2019-12-23 16:35:15 +01:00

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Changed status from 'Confirmed' to: 'Needs User Info'

Changed status from 'Confirmed' to: 'Needs User Info'

Is this problem still seen in the latest blender builds?
https://builder.blender.org/download/

Also, can you provide the system-info.txt generated by blender on each computer (Help -> Save System Info)?

Is this problem still seen in the latest blender builds? https://builder.blender.org/download/ Also, can you provide the `system-info.txt` generated by blender on each computer (`Help -> Save System Info`)?

Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Archived'

Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Archived'
Germano Cavalcante self-assigned this 2020-02-07 15:33:39 +01:00

Since apparently nobody else was able to reproduce this problem and the report has no activity for more than a week, as per the tracker policy we assume the issue is gone and can be closed.
Thanks for the report. If the problem persists please open a new report with the required information.

Since apparently nobody else was able to reproduce this problem and the report has no activity for more than a week, as per the tracker policy we assume the issue is gone and can be closed. Thanks for the report. If the problem persists please open a new report with the required information.
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