Shortcuts don't appear on tooltips for tool icons. #62945

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Jean Da Costa · 2019-03-25T23:58:28+01:00

Jean Da Costa commented

2019-03-25 23:58:28 +01:00

System Information
Operating system: Windows 7

Blender Version
Blender 2.8 07f6be87a9

Short description of error
It happens in any mode but is specially a problem in sculpt mode.
It's a problem because sculpting requires a lot of switching of brushes, what requires learning the shortcuts.

I know that in edit mode it doesn't show shortcuts because there aren't any keys bound to the active tools rather than the normal operator.
But for sake of user-friendliness, better make it show both the shortcut for the active tool and the equivalent operator.

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error
Hover the mouse on a tool icon.

**System Information** Operating system: Windows 7 **Blender Version** Blender 2.8 07f6be87a97e **Short description of error** It happens in any mode but is specially a problem in sculpt mode. It's a problem because sculpting requires a lot of switching of brushes, what requires learning the shortcuts. I know that in edit mode it doesn't show shortcuts because there aren't any keys bound to the active tools rather than the normal operator. But for sake of user-friendliness, better make it show both the shortcut for the active tool and the equivalent operator. **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** Hover the mouse on a tool icon.

Jean Da Costa commented

2019-03-25 23:58:28 +01:00

Added subscriber: @jeacom

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2019-03-26 04:22:48 +01:00

Added subscriber: @brecht

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2019-03-26 04:22:48 +01:00

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Archived'

Brecht Van Lommel closed this issue

2019-03-26 04:22:48 +01:00

Brecht Van Lommel self-assigned this 2019-03-26 04:22:48 +01:00

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2019-03-26 04:22:48 +01:00

Please use https://devtalk.blender.org/c/user-feedback for usability feedback, this tracker is strictly for bugs.

Jean Da Costa commented

2019-03-26 20:48:30 +01:00

Changed status from 'Archived' to: 'Open'

Jean Da Costa reopened this issue

2019-03-26 20:48:30 +01:00

Jean Da Costa commented

2019-03-26 20:48:30 +01:00

In #62945#648164, @brecht wrote:
Please use https://devtalk.blender.org/c/user-feedback for usability feedback, this tracker is strictly for bugs.

@brecht, I am pretty sure its a bug. In fact the sculpt brush icons were showing the shortcuts last week.
And if you change the shortcut, then it displays with no problem but not the factory shortcuts.

You misinterpreted me, I made a little comment about usability but ONLY in sculpt mode its a bug, since it was working before ( 388ff003e2 ).

Proof: before/after

My guess that this was the cause.

*Sculpt and painting brush settings have been reorganized, along with many other small naming and layout tweaks in the interface. (William Reynish)

> In #62945#648164, @brecht wrote: > Please use https://devtalk.blender.org/c/user-feedback for usability feedback, this tracker is strictly for bugs. @brecht, I am pretty sure its a bug. In fact the sculpt brush icons were showing the shortcuts last week. And if you change the shortcut, then it displays with no problem but not the factory shortcuts. You misinterpreted me, I made a little comment about usability but ONLY in sculpt mode its a bug, since it was working before ( 388ff003e28b ). Proof: before/after ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F6887316/image.png) ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F6887322/image.png) My guess that this was the cause. > *Sculpt and painting brush settings have been reorganized, along with many other small naming and layout tweaks in the interface. (William Reynish)

ronan ducluzeau commented

2019-03-26 21:22:03 +01:00

Added subscriber: @zeauro

ronan ducluzeau commented

2019-03-26 21:22:03 +01:00

Display of the name + the shortcut was too distracting. When mouse was quickly passed over all brushes of toolbar, there was too much information to be able to focus on their name.
So, a delay was introduced for display of shortcut.

If you take time to wait a little bit, just some tenth of a second, shortcut should appear after name.

If you wait and nothing appears, it is a bug.
But on linux with a today's build 337eb8, shortcut appears on tooltip, here.

Display of the name + the shortcut was too distracting. When mouse was quickly passed over all brushes of toolbar, there was too much information to be able to focus on their name. So, a delay was introduced for display of shortcut. If you take time to wait a little bit, just some tenth of a second, shortcut should appear after name. If you wait and nothing appears, it is a bug. But on linux with a today's build 337eb8, shortcut appears on tooltip, here.

Jean Da Costa commented

2019-03-26 21:36:39 +01:00

Well for me the delay seems to be of ∞ seconds.

Ray molenkamp commented

2019-03-26 21:37:59 +01:00

Added subscriber: @LazyDodo

Ray molenkamp commented

2019-03-26 21:37:59 +01:00

do they work when you start blender using the factory starup batch file in the blender folder?

Jean Da Costa commented

2019-03-26 21:41:22 +01:00

In #62945#648914, @LazyDodo wrote:
do they work when you start blender using the factory starup batch file in the blender folder?

Yes but only with factory settings, or if I edit a shortcut from rightclick>change shortcut

> In #62945#648914, @LazyDodo wrote: > do they work when you start blender using the factory starup batch file in the blender folder? Yes but only with factory settings, or if I edit a shortcut from rightclick>change shortcut

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2019-03-27 11:15:30 +01:00

Please provide exact steps to redo the problem from factory settings.

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2019-04-04 05:47:38 +02:00

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Archived'

Brecht Van Lommel closed this issue

2019-04-04 05:47:38 +02:00

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2019-04-04 05:47:38 +02:00

Closing due to lack of information to investigate the issue, we can reopen if more information is provided.

Dieter Vogel commented

2019-11-03 21:51:32 +01:00

Added subscriber: @DieVog

Dieter Vogel commented

2019-11-03 21:51:32 +01:00

I'm not sure if this helps, but whenever I change the Keymap/Spacebar Action to "Search", all shortcuts in the Tooltips are gone in all modes object/edit/sculpt. Additionally, "Shift Spacebar" to open the tools pop-up doesn't work anymore. As soon as I change it back, everything is fine again.

I just started using Blender, nonetheless I think this is a bug and not the intended behaviour, when switching the Spacebar Action to "Search".

I'm not sure if this helps, but **whenever** I change the Keymap/Spacebar Action to "Search", all shortcuts in the Tooltips are gone in all modes object/edit/sculpt. Additionally, "Shift Spacebar" to open the tools pop-up doesn't work anymore. As soon as I change it back, everything is fine again. I just started using Blender, nonetheless I think this is a bug and not the intended behaviour, when switching the Spacebar Action to "Search".

Reslav Hollos commented

2021-12-26 20:45:05 +01:00

Added subscriber: @Radivarig

wulph commented

2022-02-13 18:03:14 +01:00

Added subscriber: @wulph

wulph commented

2022-02-13 18:03:14 +01:00

In #62945#805182, @DieVog wrote:
I'm not sure if this helps, but whenever I change the Keymap/Spacebar Action to "Search", all shortcuts in the Tooltips are gone in all modes object/edit/sculpt. Additionally, "Shift Spacebar" to open the tools pop-up doesn't work anymore. As soon as I change it back, everything is fine again.

I just started using Blender, nonetheless I think this is a bug and not the intended behaviour, when switching the Spacebar Action to "Search".

THANK YOU DIETER.. this was driving me nuts! The problem carries through to version 3.0.1 and behaves exacty as you describe. I hope someone addresses it some day.

> In #62945#805182, @DieVog wrote: > I'm not sure if this helps, but **whenever** I change the Keymap/Spacebar Action to "Search", all shortcuts in the Tooltips are gone in all modes object/edit/sculpt. Additionally, "Shift Spacebar" to open the tools pop-up doesn't work anymore. As soon as I change it back, everything is fine again. > > I just started using Blender, nonetheless I think this is a bug and not the intended behaviour, when switching the Spacebar Action to "Search". THANK YOU DIETER.. this was driving me nuts! The problem carries through to version 3.0.1 and behaves exacty as you describe. I hope someone addresses it some day.

blender-admin commented

2022-04-29 08:13:53 +02:00

This issue was referenced by 720e19a833

This issue was referenced by 720e19a83325be62a68a777897fb706a23854cf7

Joseph Eagar commented

2022-04-29 08:15:00 +02:00

Changed status from 'Archived' to: 'Resolved'

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Shortcuts don't appear on tooltips for tool icons. #62945