Move collection visibility panel from popover to sidebar panel #63527

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Brecht Van Lommel · 2019-04-12T10:13:18+02:00

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2019-04-12 10:13:18 +02:00

The popover is not very popular, instead it can go in the sidebar in its own Collections tab. This way animators can have it permanently open for example and don't need an outliner.

Dalai Felinto was assigned by Brecht Van Lommel

2019-04-12 10:13:18 +02:00

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2019-04-12 10:13:18 +02:00

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Brecht Van Lommel changed title from ~~Move collection visibility panel from popover to sidebar~~ to Move collection visibility panel from popover to sidebar panel

2019-04-12 10:13:32 +02:00

William Reynish commented

2019-04-12 10:24:50 +02:00

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William Reynish commented

2019-04-12 10:24:50 +02:00

We could do the same with this panel too I think:

We could do the same with this panel too I think: ![Screenshot 2019-04-12 at 10.24.29.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F6934210/Screenshot_2019-04-12_at_10.24.29.png)

Luciano Muñoz Sessarego commented

2019-04-13 09:40:36 +02:00

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Luciano Muñoz Sessarego commented

2019-04-13 09:40:36 +02:00

no, please, that panel is super useful in production! (the object types visibility)

the only thing i'd change aboout it it's it shouldnt affect the objects visibility togleability in the outliner, it should be something superficial only for the viewoort, its a restriction so you dont move things my mistake or to be able to see what you need to see, but you dont want it changing properties.
Also if it's local to a view it's great for filtering out whatever you need to see in one view or other.

no, please, that panel is super useful in production! (the object types visibility) the only thing i'd change aboout it it's it shouldnt affect the objects visibility togleability in the outliner, it should be something superficial only for the viewoort, its a restriction so you dont move things my mistake or to be able to see what you need to see, but you dont want it changing properties. Also if it's local to a view it's great for filtering out whatever you need to see in one view or other.

Damien Monteillard commented

2019-04-13 13:42:56 +02:00

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Campbell Barton commented

2019-04-14 07:56:24 +02:00

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Campbell Barton commented

2019-04-14 07:56:24 +02:00

In #63527#659189, @WilliamReynish wrote:
We could do the same with this panel too I think:

This would remove the icon which currently changes based on the options inside the popover.

This means you wouldn't know at a glance if you have any object types hidden or un-selectable.

Since there are (at least) two ways to make something hidden / un-selectable - I wanted to avoid users having to search in a collapsed panel/region for eg, to find their object type can't be selected.

Would prefer design tasks don't add in unrelated changes in replies too, it makes things hard to follow and adds noise (anyone wanted to read about the original task now needs to wade though unrelated discussion).

> In #63527#659189, @WilliamReynish wrote: > We could do the same with this panel too I think: > > ![Screenshot 2019-04-12 at 10.24.29.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F6934210/Screenshot_2019-04-12_at_10.24.29.png) This would remove the icon which currently changes based on the options inside the popover. This means you wouldn't know at a glance if you have any object types hidden or un-selectable. Since there are (at least) two ways to make something hidden / un-selectable - I wanted to avoid users having to search in a collapsed panel/region for eg, to find their object type can't be selected. ---- Would prefer design tasks don't add in unrelated changes in replies too, it makes things hard to follow and adds noise (anyone wanted to read about the original task now needs to wade though unrelated discussion).

Paul Kotelevets commented

2019-04-14 12:56:27 +02:00

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Paul Kotelevets commented

2019-04-14 12:56:27 +02:00

I can hardly imagine how you will do it for 2357 collections in scene.
Maybe by creating special outliner for outliner?
That will be actually interesting to see...

I can hardly imagine how you will do it for 2357 collections in scene. Maybe by creating special outliner for outliner? That will be actually interesting to see...

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2019-04-14 13:04:28 +02:00

You wouldn't use this to manage that many collections. It's more if you have a limited number of top level collections that you switch between often.

Paul Kotelevets commented

2019-04-14 22:15:07 +02:00

In #63527#660247, @brecht wrote:
You wouldn't use this to manage that many collections. It's more if you have a limited number of top level collections that you switch between often.

You've got me =) Sounds like proper QCD system atop Collections.
https://devtalk.blender.org/t/layers-maniphest/6578/32?u=1d_inc

> In #63527#660247, @brecht wrote: > You wouldn't use this to manage that many collections. It's more if you have a limited number of top level collections that you switch between often. You've got me =) Sounds like proper QCD system atop Collections. https://devtalk.blender.org/t/layers-maniphest/6578/32?u=1d_inc

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2019-04-16 15:44:13 +02:00

I think this should be in its own category tab? Right now it's expanded by default along with the other panels. If you've got lots of collections this pushes down the annotations a lot, and is not ideal for performance either.

William Reynish commented

2019-04-16 18:56:54 +02:00

@brecht Not sure about the category - what category should it be then?

Certainly I can collapse by default no problem.

@brecht Not sure about the category - what category should it be then? Certainly I can collapse by default no problem.

Dalai Felinto commented

2019-04-16 21:50:57 +02:00

@WilliamReynish It could be "Collections", or "Visibility". If we are talking about a production scene, you can have enough collections to fill most of the vertical space of the viewport.

Paul Kotelevets commented

2019-04-16 22:03:50 +02:00

In #63527#661931, @dfelinto wrote:
@WilliamReynish It could be "Collections", or "Visibility".

Well, there are a lot of "Collections" and "Visibilities" over interface already)

If we are talking about a production scene, you can have enough collections to fill most of the vertical space of the viewport.

Easily.
Does it mean, it should be the rightmost button on a panel?

> In #63527#661931, @dfelinto wrote: > @WilliamReynish It could be "Collections", or "Visibility". Well, there are a lot of "Collections" and "Visibilities" over interface already) > If we are talking about a production scene, you can have enough collections to fill most of the vertical space of the viewport. Easily. Does it mean, it should be the rightmost button on a panel?

Julien Kaspar commented

2019-04-17 11:44:13 +02:00

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