Bevel behave strange #64200

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opened 2019-05-06 12:05:33 +02:00 by Manojlo Gulic · 12 comments

System Information
Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.17134 64 Bits
Graphics card: GeForce GTX 1060 6GB/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 419.35

Blender Version
Broken: version: 2.80 (sub 60), branch: blender2.7, commit date: 2019-05-03 21:09, hash: ee0d8426ab
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Short description of error
I want to bevel edge loop but i got weird result, i attached video you can check.

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error
Simply select edge loop and press Ctrl + B and most of loop bevel right but on some places i got some artifacts and weird result. Check video please.
bandicam 2019-05-06 12-00-25-325.mp4

Bevel error.blend

**System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.17134 64 Bits Graphics card: GeForce GTX 1060 6GB/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 419.35 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 2.80 (sub 60), branch: blender2.7, commit date: 2019-05-03 21:09, hash: `ee0d8426ab` Worked: (optional) **Short description of error** I want to bevel edge loop but i got weird result, i attached video you can check. **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** Simply select edge loop and press Ctrl + B and most of loop bevel right but on some places i got some artifacts and weird result. Check video please. [bandicam 2019-05-06 12-00-25-325.mp4](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F7009538/bandicam_2019-05-06_12-00-25-325.mp4) [Bevel error.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F7037401/Bevel_error.blend)
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Added subscriber: @Manojlo

Added subscriber: @Manojlo

Added subscriber: @WilliamReynish

Added subscriber: @WilliamReynish

Can you provide a blend file that demos this?

Can you provide a blend file that demos this?
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Sure I can, at the moment I’m on my family vacation but I’ll get back in 10 days and will sent blend file no worries. Thank you for replying.

Sure I can, at the moment I’m on my family vacation but I’ll get back in 10 days and will sent blend file no worries. Thank you for replying.
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In #64200#671736, @WilliamReynish wrote:
Can you provide a blend file that demos this?

Hello, i upload file, please let me know if there is anything else you need. Thank you.

H > In #64200#671736, @WilliamReynish wrote: > Can you provide a blend file that demos this? Hello, i upload file, please let me know if there is anything else you need. Thank you.
Howard Trickey was assigned by William Reynish 2019-05-14 23:18:19 +02:00

Added subscriber: @howardt

Added subscriber: @howardt

I can confirm the strange behavior. Have investigated the file but haven't been able to see anything out of the ordinary.

@howardt care to take a look?

I can confirm the strange behavior. Have investigated the file but haven't been able to see anything out of the ordinary. @howardt care to take a look?

I found the issue: your mesh had wonky normals. After recalculating the normals outside, everything seems to work normally.

@howardt: Still I guess ideally Bevel would not act up so badly when normals aren't consistent?

Although not sure if this is technically a bug or not?

I found the issue: your mesh had wonky normals. After recalculating the normals outside, everything seems to work normally. @howardt: Still I guess ideally Bevel would not act up so badly when normals aren't consistent? Although not sure if this is technically a bug or not?
Author

I see, normal cause the issue, maybe we should have option to show flipped normal like in 2.79 it's hard to guess what's going on at the moment, you have experience and check face orientation right away but i couldn't guess it in million year :) Anyway, thank you very much for your help.

I see, normal cause the issue, maybe we should have option to show flipped normal like in 2.79 it's hard to guess what's going on at the moment, you have experience and check face orientation right away but i couldn't guess it in million year :) Anyway, thank you very much for your help.

You can use a feature called Face Orientation which shows this, in the Overlays popover.

You can use a feature called Face Orientation which shows this, in the Overlays popover.
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Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Archived'

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Archived'
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Sorry, there are way too many places in the bevel code where the face normals matter. Now that you bring this up, it is not clear to me that this is necessary, but at some point I thought it was. Since so much other stuff in Blender will not work well if the normals are wonky, it seems like a bit of a fools errand to make bevel work in this case when you are likely to have to fix this anyway later (when texturing & rendering). So for now I am calling the current bevel behavior "working as intended". I may consider trying to undo all the normal assumptions at some point in the future, but this is not an active bug right now.

Sorry, there are way too many places in the bevel code where the face normals matter. Now that you bring this up, it is not clear to me that this is necessary, but at some point I thought it was. Since so much other stuff in Blender will not work well if the normals are wonky, it seems like a bit of a fools errand to make bevel work in this case when you are likely to have to fix this anyway later (when texturing & rendering). So for now I am calling the current bevel behavior "working as intended". I may consider trying to undo all the normal assumptions at some point in the future, but this is not an active bug right now.
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