Annotation Tools are missing from the Sequencer Preview #67296

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tintwotin · 2019-07-20T08:45:56+02:00

tintwotin commented

2019-07-20 08:45:56 +02:00

In the Sequencer Preview the Annotation Tools are missing - properly because there is no tools sidebar - but without the Annotation Tools exposed, this function is very crippled(yes, you can draw when pressing 'D', but how do the users know this?)

Maybe, either the Sequencer Preview could have a tools sidebar like the Movie Clip Editor(for the Annotation Tools) or the Annotation Tools could simply be added to the properties sidebar of the Sequencer Preview(as a quick-fix).

The optimal solution would be if the Sequencer tool-set was in consistency with ex. the Movie Clip Editor and stuff like the missing Adjust Last Operation menu entry #66462 was also implemented(which also is implemented in the Movie Clip Editor).

In the Sequencer Preview the Annotation Tools are missing - properly because there is no tools sidebar - but without the Annotation Tools exposed, this function is very crippled(yes, you can draw when pressing 'D', but how do the users know this?) Maybe, either the Sequencer Preview could have a tools sidebar like the Movie Clip Editor(for the Annotation Tools) or the Annotation Tools could simply be added to the properties sidebar of the Sequencer Preview(as a quick-fix). ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F7619555/image.png) The optimal solution would be if the Sequencer tool-set was in consistency with ex. the Movie Clip Editor and stuff like the missing Adjust Last Operation menu entry #66462 was also implemented(which also is implemented in the Movie Clip Editor).

tintwotin commented

2019-07-20 08:45:56 +02:00

Added subscriber: @tintwotin

tintwotin commented

2019-07-20 08:47:25 +02:00

Added subscriber: @WilliamReynish

tintwotin commented

2019-07-20 12:56:24 +02:00

It is possible to add the Annotation Tools to the Sequencer Sidebar, but the functions do not seem to work:

It is possible to add the Annotation Tools to the Sequencer Sidebar, but the functions do not seem to work: ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F7619870/image.png)

William Reynish commented

2019-07-20 14:18:26 +02:00

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Archived'

William Reynish closed this issue

2019-07-20 14:18:26 +02:00

William Reynish self-assigned this 2019-07-20 14:18:26 +02:00

William Reynish commented

2019-07-20 14:18:26 +02:00

We should not add those buttons. They are insanely clumsy to use, because you can only draw one stroke at a time.

Instead, we should add a proper toolbar, for which we already have a patch. This should be quite easy to do for 2.81.

The same goes for the Movie Clip editor.

We should not add those buttons. They are insanely clumsy to use, because you can only draw one stroke at a time. Instead, we should add a proper toolbar, for which we already have a patch. This should be quite easy to do for 2.81. The same goes for the Movie Clip editor.

tintwotin commented

2019-07-20 15:05:51 +02:00

Without these Annotation Tools exposed, the Sequencer Annotations aren't of much use in 2.80. Why not expose them for now, and make it at least usable, until a proper toolbar is implemented?

What is the plan for the annotations in the Sequencer? Only to annotate on the preview(preview/preview+sequencer/preview backdrop)? Or also annotate in the Sequencer(strip area)? If it is only for preview then the annotations could be disabled(hidden) now in the sequencer(strip/timeline) area.

Without these Annotation Tools exposed, the Sequencer Annotations aren't of much use in 2.80. Why not expose them for now, and make it at least usable, until a proper toolbar is implemented? What is the plan for the annotations in the Sequencer? Only to annotate on the preview(preview/preview+sequencer/preview backdrop)? Or also annotate in the Sequencer(strip area)? If it is only for preview then the annotations could be disabled(hidden) now in the sequencer(strip/timeline) area.

ChristopherAnderssarian commented

2019-07-20 20:43:25 +02:00

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ChristopherAnderssarian commented

2019-07-20 20:43:25 +02:00

@tintwotin I feel you...

I don't understand why tools and functionality have been removed, and not been replaced by anything...
I completely understand the argument about the time and effort not being worth it for a stopgap measure. But what's the reason for not adding them back?^

In #67296#728366, @WilliamReynish wrote:
We should not add those buttons. They are insanely clumsy to use, because you can only draw one stroke at a time.

This is a disappointing comment to see.
It is not only these buttons, do you not remember the most important one?

{F7620893 width=500}

I'm sure that even after the UI freeze it would have been much better keeping the options of 2.7x in preparation for the #57846 (Use toolbar for Clip Editor), rather then the *"insanely clumsy to use"*Annotations toolbar we are currently stuck with...

^But obviously in the case of #64649 where deprecated features are not supported.

@tintwotin I feel you... I don't understand why tools and functionality have been removed, and not been replaced by anything... I completely understand the argument about the time and effort not being worth it for a stopgap measure. But what's the reason for not adding them back?^ > In #67296#728366, @WilliamReynish wrote: > We should not add those buttons. They are insanely clumsy to use, because you can only draw one stroke at a time. This is a disappointing comment to see. It is not only these buttons, do you not remember *the* most important one? {[F7620893](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F7620893/Continue.PNG) width=500} I'm sure that even after the UI freeze it would have been much better keeping the options of 2.7x in preparation for the #57846 (Use toolbar for Clip Editor), rather then the *"insanely clumsy to use"*Annotations toolbar we are currently stuck with... ___ ^But obviously in the case of [#64649](https://developer.blender.org/T64649) where deprecated features are not supported.

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Annotation Tools are missing from the Sequencer Preview #67296