Clicking menus causes Mac to freeze entirely #67834

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opened 2019-07-28 12:45:10 +02:00 by Leonardo · 17 comments

System Information
Operating system: Darwin-17.7.0-x86_64-i386-64bit 64 Bits
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce 320M OpenGL Engine NVIDIA Corporation 3.3 NVIDIA-10.4.14 310.90.30.05b27

Blender Version
Broken: version: 2.80 (sub 75), branch: master, commit date: 2019-07-24 14:22, hash: 507ffee6e1
Worked: (optional)

Short description of error
While clicking/hovering on the various menus - none in particular, but mostly the bottom-right menu ones - the computer will freeze, with no possibility of moving cursor, and keyboard shortcuts of any sort won't work. This freeze status sometimes lasts for a few seconds, sometimes for several seconds. At times it won't "de-freeze", so i have to force shut down my Mac.
Lastly, this happens regardless how much the cpu is working. I could simply start a new project, single cube in the center, and clicking on the menu and icons will reproduce the bug.Chest.blend

**System Information** Operating system: Darwin-17.7.0-x86_64-i386-64bit 64 Bits Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce 320M OpenGL Engine NVIDIA Corporation 3.3 NVIDIA-10.4.14 310.90.30.05b27 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 2.80 (sub 75), branch: master, commit date: 2019-07-24 14:22, hash: `507ffee6e1` Worked: (optional) **Short description of error** While clicking/hovering on the various menus - none in particular, but mostly the bottom-right menu ones - the computer will freeze, with no possibility of moving cursor, and keyboard shortcuts of any sort won't work. This freeze status sometimes lasts for a few seconds, sometimes for several seconds. At times it won't "de-freeze", so i have to force shut down my Mac. Lastly, this happens regardless how much the cpu is working. I could simply start a new project, single cube in the center, and clicking on the menu and icons will reproduce the bug.[Chest.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F7633371/Chest.blend)
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Added subscriber: @LeonardoM

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IMO your workstation not meet minimum Blender requirements, you can check here https://www.blender.org/download/requirements/

GeForce 320M have older GPU architecture, minimum requirement is Tesla GPU architecture

IMO your workstation not meet minimum Blender requirements, you can check here https://www.blender.org/download/requirements/ GeForce 320M have older GPU architecture, minimum requirement is Tesla GPU architecture
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But it makes no sense. It can render an animation, but it freezes on menus. It's obviously a bug.

But it makes no sense. It can render an animation, but it freezes on menus. It's obviously a bug.

Added subscriber: @WilliamReynish

Added subscriber: @WilliamReynish

You'll have to explain what you mean by "the bottom-right menu ones".

You'll have to explain what you mean by "the bottom-right menu ones".
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![869474D7-04FE-43EB-88B5-B471A96E3F70.jpeg](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F7634889/869474D7-04FE-43EB-88B5-B471A96E3F70.jpeg)

You've circled the Properties editor. Which menu are you referring to that causes Blender to crash?

You've circled the Properties editor. Which menu are you referring to that causes Blender to crash?
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As i said in the bug report, there is no specific button-link that if selected will reproduce the bug. I just noticed that the Properties editor is the area where the computer starts to freeze more often. But - although less often - it also happens while doing any sort of operation.

As i said in the bug report, there is no specific button-link that if selected will reproduce the bug. I just noticed that the Properties editor is the area where the computer starts to freeze more often. But - although less often - it also happens while doing any sort of operation.

Okay, then it's a bit hard to debug probably. It could be something with your system or drivers.

Okay, then it's a bit hard to debug probably. It could be something with your system or drivers.

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System Information
Operating system: macOS High Sierra Version 10.13.6
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce 320M 256 MB

Blender Version
Broken: some time after Blender 2.79b 2018-03-22 14:10 f4dc9f9
Worked: Blender 2.79b 2018-03-22 14:10 f4dc9f9

Blender freezes whole system (power down required)

I'm experiencing the very same issue and I tried to track it down a bit; The problem was introduced for me after Blender 2.79b 2018-03-22 14:10 f4dc9f9 because this version runs perfectly well. I have tried to run the builedbot builds but they all DO have this problem. I was trying blender-2.79-e045fe53f1b0-OSX-10.9-x86_64.zip and 2.80, 2.81, 2.82 to find them all crash and FREEZE my Mac. I discovered that you can force quit blender when you react immediately - press Alt-Cmd-Esc and then wait some minutes for the dialog to appear, then force quit blender quickly. If you don't you have to power down.

Since this problem was introduced after f4dc9f9 there must be a bug somewhere. I now have compiled Blender from source and I was able to save my entire shell output so maybe someone can find this annoying bug blender_crash_long.txt.

**System Information** Operating system: macOS High Sierra Version 10.13.6 Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce 320M 256 MB **Blender Version** Broken: some time after Blender 2.79b 2018-03-22 14:10 f4dc9f9 Worked: Blender 2.79b 2018-03-22 14:10 f4dc9f9 Blender freezes whole system (power down required) I'm experiencing the very same issue and I tried to track it down a bit; The problem was introduced for me after Blender 2.79b 2018-03-22 14:10 f4dc9f9 because this version runs perfectly well. I have tried to run the builedbot builds but they all DO have this problem. I was trying blender-2.79-e045fe53f1b0-OSX-10.9-x86_64.zip and 2.80, 2.81, 2.82 to find them all crash and FREEZE my Mac. I discovered that you can force quit blender when you react immediately - press Alt-Cmd-Esc and then wait some minutes for the dialog to appear, then force quit blender quickly. If you don't you have to power down. Since this problem was introduced after f4dc9f9 there must be a bug somewhere. I now have compiled Blender from source and I was able to save my entire shell output so maybe someone can find this annoying bug [blender_crash_long.txt](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F7862052/blender_crash_long.txt).

... playing around I found out that I can make Blender more stable by enabling "Render / Lock Interface" and switching to "Blender Light" theme. I also set the rendering system to "CUDA" even though it's disabled even though that might not do anything. This helps a lot and I can actually use Blender. Maybe it helps finding the bug. With these settings Blender still is unresponsive for some seconds sometimes, but it doesn't crash the entire system.

... playing around I found out that I can make Blender more stable by enabling "Render / Lock Interface" and switching to "Blender Light" theme. I also set the rendering system to "CUDA" even though it's disabled even though that might not do anything. This helps a lot and I can actually use Blender. Maybe it helps finding the bug. With these settings Blender still is unresponsive for some seconds sometimes, but it doesn't crash the entire system.
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Changed status from 'Needs Developer To Reproduce' to: 'Archived'

Changed status from 'Needs Developer To Reproduce' to: 'Archived'
Jeroen Bakker self-assigned this 2020-01-21 08:30:04 +01:00
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This is a limitation of the hardware so closing this issue.
The error states that the GPU cannot handle the amount of geometry shaders that blender needs.

This GPU is below the minimum requirements for Blender, so we no longer provide support for it. https://www.blender.org/download/requirements/

Installing the latest graphics driver sometimes helps to make such GPUs work, see here for more information. https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/dev/troubleshooting/gpu/index.html

If that doesn't help, you can use Blender 2.79: https://www.blender.org/download/previous-versions/

This is a limitation of the hardware so closing this issue. The error states that the GPU cannot handle the amount of geometry shaders that blender needs. This GPU is below the minimum requirements for Blender, so we no longer provide support for it. https://www.blender.org/download/requirements/ Installing the latest graphics driver sometimes helps to make such GPUs work, see here for more information. https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/dev/troubleshooting/gpu/index.html If that doesn't help, you can use Blender 2.79: https://www.blender.org/download/previous-versions/

Just for information: This bug disappeared for me with Blender 2.82 which doesn't crash on a "Late 2010" MacBookAir withan nVidia GeForce 320M (256MB).

Just for information: This bug disappeared for me with Blender 2.82 which doesn't crash on a "Late 2010" MacBookAir withan nVidia GeForce 320M (256MB).
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