There is a problem with color space conversion in compositor #71408

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maylog · 2019-11-07T16:13:59+01:00

maylog commented

2019-11-07 16:13:59 +01:00

System Information
Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.18362 64 Bits
Graphics card: GeForce GTX 1660/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 441.12

Blender Version
Broken: version: 2.82 (sub 1), branch: master, commit date: 2019-11-03 23:35, hash: e45cfb574e
Worked:色彩空间算法问题.blend

Short description of error
In the compositor, the SRGB image is converted to a linear color space after passing the lnvert node, and cannot be restored to the original SRGB state after conversion using the gamma node. This will generate a non-user-required error when processing the inverted Color image using the compositor. It is recommended to add the corresponding node of the color space conversion.

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error

**System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.18362 64 Bits Graphics card: GeForce GTX 1660/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 441.12 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 2.82 (sub 1), branch: master, commit date: 2019-11-03 23:35, hash: `e45cfb574e` Worked:[色彩空间算法问题.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F7975740/色彩空间算法问题.blend) **Short description of error** In the compositor, the SRGB image is converted to a linear color space after passing the lnvert node, and cannot be restored to the original SRGB state after conversion using the gamma node. This will generate a non-user-required error when processing the inverted Color image using the compositor. It is recommended to add the corresponding node of the color space conversion. **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** ![ssadas.jpg](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F7975744/ssadas.jpg)

maylog commented

2019-11-07 16:13:59 +01:00

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Sam Van Hulle commented

2019-11-07 16:35:06 +01:00

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Sam Van Hulle commented

2019-11-07 16:35:06 +01:00

I think your expectations are incorrect. Your sRGB image is always linearised, the second you indicated that its file encoding is indeed sRGB. Behind the scenes of the compositor, this removes the sRGB OETF and turns the image into a display linear sRGB buffer.

In the top part of your split viewer, you invert that linear buffer, apply a 2.2 gamma to it, and then display it through (I'm assuming) a Filmic view transform.
In the bottom part of the viewer, you simply flip the linear buffer, and your view is again transformed by (I'm assuming) Filmic.

In short, there's more happening than you think. What you're doing in the top part is essentially a double transform, especially if your view is set to Standard rather than Filmic.
It's also important to note that you should always composite in a linear space, which the Blender compositor does.

It is recommended to add the corresponding node of the color space conversion.

This would indeed be a useful node, but not here. Input Image nodes do this conversion automatically.

I think your expectations are incorrect. Your sRGB image is *always* linearised, the second you indicated that its file encoding is indeed sRGB. Behind the scenes of the compositor, this removes the sRGB OETF and turns the image into a *display linear sRGB* buffer. In the top part of your split viewer, you invert that linear buffer, apply a 2.2 gamma to it, and then display it through (I'm assuming) a Filmic view transform. In the bottom part of the viewer, you simply flip the linear buffer, and your view is again transformed by (I'm assuming) Filmic. In short, there's more happening than you think. What you're doing in the top part is essentially a double transform, especially if your view is set to Standard rather than Filmic. It's also important to note that you should always composite in a linear space, which the Blender compositor does. > It is recommended to add the corresponding node of the color space conversion. This would indeed be a useful node, but not here. Input Image nodes do this conversion automatically.

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2019-11-07 16:37:30 +01:00

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Brecht Van Lommel commented

2019-11-07 16:37:30 +01:00

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Archived'

Brecht Van Lommel closed this issue

2019-11-07 16:37:30 +01:00

Brecht Van Lommel self-assigned this 2019-11-07 16:37:30 +01:00

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2019-11-07 16:37:30 +01:00

The compositor works in scene linear color space by design, and the Invert node does not change the color space.

If you want to do a perceptually linear color inversion, you can put a Gamma node before and after the Invert node to convert to sRGB and back.

The compositor works in scene linear color space by design, and the Invert node does not change the color space. If you want to do a perceptually linear color inversion, you can put a Gamma node before and after the Invert node to convert to sRGB and back.

maylog commented

2019-11-08 01:57:09 +01:00

So, ask a question, what can I do to get the same SRGB inversion color as in Photoshop??

Sam Van Hulle commented

2019-11-08 11:56:28 +01:00

In #71408#807777, @maylog wrote:
So, ask a question, what can I do to get the same SRGB inversion color as in Photoshop??

Set your Blender view transform to Standard, and use only an invert node.
Do know that Photoshop strictly works in a display-referred space, while Blender works in a scene-linear space + view transform. Only that 'Standard' view transform is going to yield results comparable to your sRGB input.

> In #71408#807777, @maylog wrote: > So, ask a question, what can I do to get the same SRGB inversion color as in Photoshop?? Set your Blender view transform to Standard, and use only an invert node. Do know that Photoshop strictly works in a display-referred space, while Blender works in a scene-linear space + view transform. Only that 'Standard' view transform is going to yield results comparable to your sRGB input.

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There is a problem with color space conversion in compositor #71408