Modeling Crash #73649

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opened 2020-02-06 21:27:56 +01:00 by thomas · 19 comments

System Information
Operating system: Linux-4.13.0-46-generic-x86_64-with-debian-stretch-sid 64 Bits
Graphics card: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 384.130

Blender Version
Broken: version: 2.83 (sub 2), branch: master, commit date: 2020-02-04 11:40, hash: cd0a028624
Worked: I have had this issue using the beta 2.82 as well. No issue occurrence when I used 2.80,. Not sure about 2.81 though.

Short description of error
Modeling Loss of Functions other than limited navigation and can select vertice multiple. Usually I was modeling in full screen view, hot keys Ctrl, Alt, and Space bar when the issue was occurring. Happens also not in full screen mode as well. When it happens I press the red X and then it asks me if I want to save, I say no of course.

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error
Hello Cool blender developer. Download file, and open up. Select the body mesh and tab into edit mode. Start moving single and multiple vertices and loops around. Maybe Ctrl = Scale. Been giving issues within few minutes. Go in and out of full screen as well.02_06_20_Giant_12.blend

**System Information** Operating system: Linux-4.13.0-46-generic-x86_64-with-debian-stretch-sid 64 Bits Graphics card: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 384.130 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 2.83 (sub 2), branch: master, commit date: 2020-02-04 11:40, hash: `cd0a028624` Worked: I have had this issue using the beta 2.82 as well. No issue occurrence when I used 2.80,. Not sure about 2.81 though. **Short description of error** Modeling Loss of Functions other than limited navigation and can select vertice multiple. Usually I was modeling in full screen view, hot keys Ctrl, Alt, and Space bar when the issue was occurring. Happens also not in full screen mode as well. When it happens I press the red X and then it asks me if I want to save, I say no of course. **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** Hello Cool blender developer. Download file, and open up. Select the body mesh and tab into edit mode. Start moving single and multiple vertices and loops around. Maybe Ctrl = Scale. Been giving issues within few minutes. Go in and out of full screen as well.[02_06_20_Giant_12.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8326303/02_06_20_Giant_12.blend)
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Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'

I cannot reproduce, and I suspect no one will. Can you try to first apply the modifiers, save, reload, and see if you can reproduce again?

Also we need at the very least the crash report text (or whatever Blender outputs in your console.

I cannot reproduce, and I suspect no one will. Can you try to first apply the modifiers, save, reload, and see if you can reproduce again? Also we need at the very least the crash report text (or whatever Blender outputs in your console.
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In #73649#867430, @dfelinto wrote:
I cannot reproduce, and I suspect no one will. Can you try to first apply the modifiers, save, reload, and see if you can reproduce again?

Also we need at the very least the crash report text (or whatever Blender outputs in your console.

Hello their and thanks for the help. I installed the 2.81 and snaped on my system. I opened up in rc 2.83 run outta the folder, I applied the mirror modifier and left the subsurf for modeling and got the crash. I dont know how to retrieve the crash text, cause I run it outta the folder. I know the installed will give errors when encountered, inside the terminal, and also a detail crash .text file in my set directory. Any ways no issues using the 2.81, also I use the mirror modifier with that one so far today.
With the mirror modifier applied and gone and enabling the x mirror feature it still crashes. Sorry no crash .text report to submit.The Rc 2.83 current that is. Also when it crashes hot key Quit wont respond, I have to use the red X upper left. The the prompt if want to save cancel, or not save. I applied all modifiers and got the crash as well. I printed out the dependency graph, and will attach.02_07_20_Giant_3.dot

02_07_20_Giant_3.plot

> In #73649#867430, @dfelinto wrote: > I cannot reproduce, and I suspect no one will. Can you try to first apply the modifiers, save, reload, and see if you can reproduce again? > > Also we need at the very least the crash report text (or whatever Blender outputs in your console. Hello their and thanks for the help. I installed the 2.81 and snaped on my system. I opened up in rc 2.83 run outta the folder, I applied the mirror modifier and left the subsurf for modeling and got the crash. I dont know how to retrieve the crash text, cause I run it outta the folder. I know the installed will give errors when encountered, inside the terminal, and also a detail crash .text file in my set directory. Any ways no issues using the 2.81, also I use the mirror modifier with that one so far today. With the mirror modifier applied and gone and enabling the x mirror feature it still crashes. Sorry no crash .text report to submit.The Rc 2.83 current that is. Also when it crashes hot key Quit wont respond, I have to use the red X upper left. The the prompt if want to save cancel, or not save. I applied all modifiers and got the crash as well. I printed out the dependency graph, and will attach.[02_07_20_Giant_3.dot](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8327924/02_07_20_Giant_3.dot) [02_07_20_Giant_3.plot](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8327926/02_07_20_Giant_3.plot)
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Hello all. The most recent version I can get installed on my system, into the snap directory is version 2.81. As far as I know their is no way for me to write files into my /snap, so I can provide the .text if or when I encounter crashes now and in the future. So I have been running, Experimental v2.83.2 #cf59daf62fd4, Branch functions today. I applied the mirror modifier, and have gone into rigging. It tried right way when I went into full screen once again all functions pretty much do not exist, it goes like response less more less. It was stuck just translating the 3d viewer around, until I pressed escape. Then I have been working with it since, no issues. One thing also I can open this version in a console, but it does not output this error. I get a righteous .text out of snap, but have spent days trying to manipulate versions in their, and then invoke them for that reason. Thanks for your time and effort. Please excuse me if I am outta line here. Have a Awesome day.

Hello all. The most recent version I can get installed on my system, into the snap directory is version 2.81. As far as I know their is no way for me to write files into my /snap, so I can provide the .text if or when I encounter crashes now and in the future. So I have been running, Experimental v2.83.2 #cf59daf62fd4, Branch functions today. I applied the mirror modifier, and have gone into rigging. It tried right way when I went into full screen once again all functions pretty much do not exist, it goes like response less more less. It was stuck just translating the 3d viewer around, until I pressed escape. Then I have been working with it since, no issues. One thing also I can open this version in a console, but it does not output this error. I get a righteous .text out of snap, but have spent days trying to manipulate versions in their, and then invoke them for that reason. Thanks for your time and effort. Please excuse me if I am outta line here. Have a Awesome day.
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In #73649#869208, @hendo wrote:
Hello all. The most recent version I can get installed on my system, into the snap directory is version 2.81. As far as I know their is no way for me to write files into my /snap, so I can provide the .text if or when I encounter crashes now and in the future. So I have been running, Experimental v2.83.2 #cf59daf62fd4, Branch functions today. I applied the mirror modifier, and have gone into rigging. It tried right way when I went into full screen once again all functions pretty much do not exist, it goes like response less more less. It was stuck just translating the 3d viewer around, until I pressed escape. Then I have been working with it since, no issues. One thing also I can open this version in a console, but it does not output this error. I get a righteous .text out of snap, but have spent days trying to manipulate versions in their, and then invoke them for that reason. Thanks for your time and effort. Please excuse me if I am outta line here. Have a Awesome day.

Same crash issue, trying to rig my model. Escape did not save this time. Just becomes unresponsive, got to click the red X or end process in system manager. 02_10_20_Giant_3.blend

> In #73649#869208, @hendo wrote: > Hello all. The most recent version I can get installed on my system, into the snap directory is version 2.81. As far as I know their is no way for me to write files into my /snap, so I can provide the .text if or when I encounter crashes now and in the future. So I have been running, Experimental v2.83.2 #cf59daf62fd4, Branch functions today. I applied the mirror modifier, and have gone into rigging. It tried right way when I went into full screen once again all functions pretty much do not exist, it goes like response less more less. It was stuck just translating the 3d viewer around, until I pressed escape. Then I have been working with it since, no issues. One thing also I can open this version in a console, but it does not output this error. I get a righteous .text out of snap, but have spent days trying to manipulate versions in their, and then invoke them for that reason. Thanks for your time and effort. Please excuse me if I am outta line here. Have a Awesome day. Same crash issue, trying to rig my model. Escape did not save this time. Just becomes unresponsive, got to click the red X or end process in system manager. [02_10_20_Giant_3.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8333693/02_10_20_Giant_3.blend)

Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Needs Triage'

Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Needs Triage'

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@hendo You use quite old GPU drivers, please do update and let us know if that helps.

@hendo You use quite old GPU drivers, please do update and let us know if that helps.

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Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'

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I also can't reproduce the problem (moving single vertex, multiple vertices and loops around. With and without Ctrl + Scale).

Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.18941 64 Bits
Graphics card: Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics ATI Technologies Inc. 4.5.13559 Core Profile Context 26.20.12028.2

Sometimes updating the graphics driver helps to make such GPUs work.
For more information on installing the latest graphics driver see https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/dev/troubleshooting/gpu/index.html

I also can't reproduce the problem (moving single vertex, multiple vertices and loops around. With and without Ctrl + Scale). **Operating system:** Windows-10-10.0.18941 64 Bits **Graphics card:** Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics ATI Technologies Inc. 4.5.13559 Core Profile Context 26.20.12028.2 Sometimes updating the graphics driver helps to make such GPUs work. For more information on installing the latest graphics driver see https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/dev/troubleshooting/gpu/index.html
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In #73649#870426, @mano-wii wrote:
I also can't reproduce the problem (moving single vertex, multiple vertices and loops around. With and without Ctrl + Scale).

Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.18941 64 Bits
Graphics card: Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics ATI Technologies Inc. 4.5.13559 Core Profile Context 26.20.12028.2

Sometimes updating the graphics driver helps to make such GPUs work.
For more information on installing the latest graphics driver see https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/dev/troubleshooting/gpu/index.html

Hi guys, trust ya'll are having a good day. I manually installed the driver 435.21 using nvidia installation procedures, "The Hard Way". I was tooling along using experimental 2.83, running the .exe from my public. and rigging my character and have lost control of middle mouse button and shift for viewer navigation. Also hot keys functions are broken, no response for navigation or like CTRL + S nothing. I can navigate with the hand deal, translate the viewer, and press that translate viewer in the upper right. Those work. I have also changed preferences every witch way, from alt to super key. No mouse over emulation. you name it I tried. I will check back tomorrow, ttyl. I wish to buy you guys a nice meal or something. Thanks for your time and help.

> In #73649#870426, @mano-wii wrote: > I also can't reproduce the problem (moving single vertex, multiple vertices and loops around. With and without Ctrl + Scale). > > **Operating system:** Windows-10-10.0.18941 64 Bits > **Graphics card:** Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics ATI Technologies Inc. 4.5.13559 Core Profile Context 26.20.12028.2 > > Sometimes updating the graphics driver helps to make such GPUs work. > For more information on installing the latest graphics driver see https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/dev/troubleshooting/gpu/index.html Hi guys, trust ya'll are having a good day. I manually installed the driver 435.21 using nvidia installation procedures, "The Hard Way". I was tooling along using experimental 2.83, running the .exe from my public. and rigging my character and have lost control of middle mouse button and shift for viewer navigation. Also hot keys functions are broken, no response for navigation or like CTRL + S nothing. I can navigate with the hand deal, translate the viewer, and press that translate viewer in the upper right. Those work. I have also changed preferences every witch way, from alt to super key. No mouse over emulation. you name it I tried. I will check back tomorrow, ttyl. I wish to buy you guys a nice meal or something. Thanks for your time and help.
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Also I can make selections in the Outline editor. And select the different menus, little tabs like wrench. All of them can select. Can open and close other windows. Broken navigation though.
Also I can enter edit mode with the mesh, but can now only select 1 vertex at a time, and try to change say a mesh name or anything and lets me click into the field, but wont let me make the name change. So only way to terminate this process is to click the red x upper right and it will prompt the save no save or cancel function. Otherwise kill it in system monitor. TTYL

Also I can make selections in the Outline editor. And select the different menus, little tabs like wrench. All of them can select. Can open and close other windows. Broken navigation though. Also I can enter edit mode with the mesh, but can now only select 1 vertex at a time, and try to change say a mesh name or anything and lets me click into the field, but wont let me make the name change. So only way to terminate this process is to click the red x upper right and it will prompt the save no save or cancel function. Otherwise kill it in system monitor. TTYL

@hendo with no mention about crashing I assume this is resolved with driver update, is that correct?

And for navigation, Click on File > Defaults > Load Factory Settings and let us know if this helps.

@hendo with no mention about crashing I assume this is resolved with driver update, is that correct? And for navigation, Click on File > Defaults > Load Factory Settings and let us know if this helps.
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In #73649#870717, @iss wrote:
@hendo with no mention about crashing I assume this is resolved with driver update, is that correct?

And for navigation, Click on File > Defaults > Load Factory Settings and let us know if this helps.

Crash282 Hello, hope you are having a good day. Yes was having the crashing still. The solution here seems to be the suggested file, default, restore factory settings. Then I set my add-ons to official and community. Thank you so much, peace. Mark for RESOLVED.

> In #73649#870717, @iss wrote: > @hendo with no mention about crashing I assume this is resolved with driver update, is that correct? > > And for navigation, Click on File > Defaults > Load Factory Settings and let us know if this helps. [Crash282](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8340349/Crash282) Hello, hope you are having a good day. Yes was having the crashing still. The solution here seems to be the suggested file, default, restore factory settings. Then I set my add-ons to official and community. Thank you so much, peace. Mark for RESOLVED.

Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Resolved'

Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Resolved'
Campbell Barton self-assigned this 2020-02-23 05:06:29 +01:00
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