Frame selected property of Local View has confusing name #74718

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Ludvik Koutny · 2020-03-13T10:02:15+01:00

Ludvik Koutny commented

2020-03-13 10:02:15 +01:00

System Information
Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.18362-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 441.87

Blender Version
Broken: version: 2.82 (sub 7), branch: master, commit date: 2020-02-12 16:20, hash: 77d23b0bd7
Worked: (optional)

Short description of error
Frame Selected property of Local View keymap entry is described as moving the view to frame selected objects when activating Local View, but has side effect of modifying the viewport view angle and location by reverting it back to a location before the Local View was entered. This can often be confusing. The Frame Selected property fails to communicate this effect to user resulting in user not knowing that the change of viewport view location when exiting Local View can be affected by this setting.

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error

In scene with multiple object, select one and enter Local View using a hotkey
Move the viewport view around
Exit the local view and notice view angle and location has changed
Got to keymap editor, search for Local View keymap entry, and uncheck "Frame Selected"
Repeat steps 1-3 and notice view angle and location no longer changes when exiting Local View
Result: Frame Selected name and tooltip fails to communicate actual functionality/side effects of this property
Expected: Frame Selected name and tooltips should either be changed to better reflect the functinality, or the side effect of view location and angle change when exiting local view should be removed.

**System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.18362-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 441.87 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 2.82 (sub 7), branch: master, commit date: 2020-02-12 16:20, hash: `77d23b0bd7` Worked: (optional) **Short description of error** Frame Selected property of Local View keymap entry is described as moving the view to frame selected objects when activating Local View, but has side effect of modifying the viewport view angle and location by reverting it back to a location before the Local View was entered. This can often be confusing. The Frame Selected property fails to communicate this effect to user resulting in user not knowing that the change of viewport view location when exiting Local View can be affected by this setting. ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8403319/image.png) **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** 1. In scene with multiple object, select one and enter Local View using a hotkey 2. Move the viewport view around 3. Exit the local view and notice view angle and location has changed 4. Got to keymap editor, search for Local View keymap entry, and uncheck "Frame Selected" 5. Repeat steps 1-3 and notice view angle and location no longer changes when exiting Local View Result: Frame Selected name and tooltip fails to communicate actual functionality/side effects of this property Expected: Frame Selected name and tooltips should either be changed to better reflect the functinality, or the side effect of view location and angle change when exiting local view should be removed.

Ludvik Koutny commented

2020-03-13 10:02:15 +01:00

Added subscriber: @Rawalanche

Ludvik Koutny changed title from ~~Frame selected property of Loca View has confusing name~~ to Frame selected property of Local View has confusing name

2020-03-13 10:02:58 +01:00

Germano Cavalcante commented

2020-03-13 17:38:30 +01:00

Added subscriber: @mano-wii

Germano Cavalcante commented

2020-03-13 17:38:30 +01:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Archived'

Germano Cavalcante closed this issue

2020-03-13 17:38:30 +01:00

Germano Cavalcante self-assigned this 2020-03-13 17:38:30 +01:00

Germano Cavalcante commented

2020-03-13 17:38:30 +01:00

I don't think I'm wrong. The description does exactly what it says. Moves the view (modifying the viewport view angle and location) to make the selected objects visible within the viewport's boundaries (ie frame the selected objects).
So I don't consider this a mistake. Even less a bug. But a request for improvement.

Closing as this bug tracker is only for bugs and errors.

For user requests and feedback, please use other channels: https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Communication/Contact#User_Feedback_and_Requests
For more information on why this isn't considered a bug, visit: https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Reference/Not_a_bug

I don't think I'm wrong. The description does exactly what it says. Moves the view (modifying the viewport view angle and location) to make the selected objects visible within the viewport's boundaries (ie frame the selected objects). So I don't consider this a mistake. Even less a bug. But a request for improvement. Closing as this bug tracker is only for bugs and errors. For user requests and feedback, please use other channels: https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Communication/Contact#User_Feedback_and_Requests For more information on why this isn't considered a bug, visit: https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Reference/Not_a_bug

Ludvik Koutny commented

2020-03-13 18:45:43 +01:00

In #74718#890775, @mano-wii wrote:
I don't think I'm wrong. The description does exactly what it says. Moves the view (modifying the viewport view angle and location) to make the selected objects visible within the viewport's boundaries (ie frame the selected objects).
So I don't consider this a mistake. Even less a bug. But a request for improvement.

Closing as this bug tracker is only for bugs and errors.

For user requests and feedback, please use other channels: https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Communication/Contact#User_Feedback_and_Requests
For more information on why this isn't considered a bug, visit: https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Reference/Not_a_bug

Have you actually read the report? The framing of the object at the start of entering local view is expected, but changing the view when exiting is not. The description and naming is clearly wrong here.

> In #74718#890775, @mano-wii wrote: > I don't think I'm wrong. The description does exactly what it says. Moves the view (modifying the viewport view angle and location) to make the selected objects visible within the viewport's boundaries (ie frame the selected objects). > So I don't consider this a mistake. Even less a bug. But a request for improvement. > > Closing as this bug tracker is only for bugs and errors. > > For user requests and feedback, please use other channels: https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Communication/Contact#User_Feedback_and_Requests > For more information on why this isn't considered a bug, visit: https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Reference/Not_a_bug Have you actually read the report? The framing of the object at the start of entering local view is expected, but changing the view when exiting is not. The description and naming is clearly wrong here.

Germano Cavalcante commented

2020-03-13 19:32:18 +01:00

Added subscriber: @dfelinto

Germano Cavalcante commented

2020-03-13 19:32:18 +01:00

I don't think the fact that the description does not inform that contextual views have a particular 3D View qualifies this as an error or a bug.
The manual could also be a little bit clearer:
https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/latest/editors/3dview/navigate/views.html#contextual-views

But for the reasons described here (Not_a_bug ), we need to define well what is a bug and what is an improvement request.

@dfelinto, what do you think? Should this be considered a bug?

I don't think the fact that the description does not inform that contextual views have a particular 3D View qualifies this as an error or a bug. The manual could also be a little bit clearer: https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/latest/editors/3dview/navigate/views.html#contextual-views But for the reasons described here ([Not_a_bug ](https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Reference/Not_a_bug)), we need to define well what is a bug and what is an improvement request. @dfelinto, what do you think? Should this be considered a bug?

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Frame selected property of Local View has confusing name #74718