Font Names missing in Windows 10 #75028

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Aranzazu Hurtado · 2020-03-23T10:24:19+01:00

Aranzazu Hurtado commented

2020-03-23 10:24:19 +01:00

System Information
Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.18362-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: Intel(R) UHD Graphics 630 Intel 4.5.0 - Build 26.20.100.7262

Blender Version
Broken: version: 2.82 (sub 7), branch: master, commit date: 2020-03-12 05:06, hash: 375c7dc4ca

Short description of error
The names of the fonts in the Blender File View (route: C/Windows/Fonts) displays numbers, not the name of the font.

If I do a search by name it doesn't show anything:

And I have the font installed on Windows:

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error
In Blender, when I try to find a font for a Text object, there's no way I can find any font but by the thumbnail, all the names have been replaced by a number. How can I find f.e. the Futura or any other font when they are very similar to each other just by looking at the thumbnails? I think this it's a bug because it didn't happen before in the previous versions.

**System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.18362-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: Intel(R) UHD Graphics 630 Intel 4.5.0 - Build 26.20.100.7262 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 2.82 (sub 7), branch: master, commit date: 2020-03-12 05:06, hash: `375c7dc4ca` **Short description of error** The names of the fonts in the Blender File View (route: C/Windows/Fonts) displays numbers, not the name of the font. ![Blender_Fonts_error.PNG](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8424567/Blender_Fonts_error.PNG) If I do a search by name it doesn't show anything: ![Blender_Fonts_error2.PNG](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8424566/Blender_Fonts_error2.PNG) And I have the font installed on Windows: ![Blender_Fonts_error3.PNG](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8424565/Blender_Fonts_error3.PNG) **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** In Blender, when I try to find a font for a Text object, there's no way I can find any font but by the thumbnail, all the names have been replaced by a number. How can I find f.e. the *Futura* or any other font when they are very similar to each other just by looking at the thumbnails? I think this it's a bug because it didn't happen before in the previous versions.

Aranzazu Hurtado commented

2020-03-23 10:24:19 +01:00

Added subscriber: @zutxita

Robert Guetzkow commented

2020-03-23 11:29:28 +01:00

Added subscriber: @rjg

Robert Guetzkow commented

2020-03-23 11:29:28 +01:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'

Robert Guetzkow commented

2020-03-23 11:29:28 +01:00

The Windows Explorer doesn't display the filenames, it shows the name from the metadata of the TrueType or OpenType font. Please right click on the file in the Windows Explorer in C:\Windows\Fonts, open the Properties and check what the actual filename is. Quite likely it's the name that Blender displays.

The Windows Explorer doesn't display the filenames, it shows the name from the metadata of the TrueType or OpenType font. Please right click on the file in the Windows Explorer in `C:\Windows\Fonts`, open the *Properties* and check what the actual filename is. Quite likely it's the name that Blender displays.

Aranzazu Hurtado commented

2020-03-23 13:05:49 +01:00

Ok, the name of that font was tt0140m_.ttf, there's no way to implement a search by name of the file? I know is the futura, and the font name is futura book (or whatever) but I coudn't find it because of that, I can't go to every font and search which name is in the properties in the windows/font panel, It's kinda insane. What is the reason of using the metadata name? Can be implemented other kinds of names? at least in the search section. I can't believe why it's so hard for blender to implement the fonts search properly, (as any other software out there) maybe in blender 2040...

Ok, the name of that font was *tt0140m_.ttf*, there's no way to implement a search by name of the file? I know is the futura, and the font name is futura book (or whatever) but I coudn't find it because of that, I can't go to every font and search which name is in the properties in the windows/font panel, It's kinda insane. What is the reason of using the metadata name? Can be implemented other kinds of names? at least in the search section. I can't believe why it's so hard for blender to implement the fonts search properly, (as any other software out there) maybe in blender 2040...

Aranzazu Hurtado commented

2020-03-23 13:27:26 +01:00

Actually, I've tried other search of other font, in this case: "Montserrat" and it hasn't found it, not even putting the name that shows in the windows properties.

Maybe because it's a family and it's inside a folder (that don't exist in blender, or blender doesn't find it but windows does?)

In the Windows directory it shows this:

C:\Windows\Fonts\Montserrat

It's like a pack inside the directory fonts.

If I put that route in the Blender File View, it wants to create new folder, it doesn't recognize it.

It's getting trickier and trickier...

Actually, I've tried other search of other font, in this case: "*Montserrat*" and it hasn't found it, not even putting the name that shows in the windows properties. ![Blender_Fonts_error4.PNG](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8424918/Blender_Fonts_error4.PNG) ![Blender_Fonts_error5.PNG](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8424920/Blender_Fonts_error5.PNG) Maybe because it's a family and it's inside a folder (that don't exist in blender, or blender doesn't find it but windows does?) In the Windows directory it shows this: C:\Windows\Fonts\Montserrat ![Blender_Fonts_error6.PNG](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8424939/Blender_Fonts_error6.PNG) It's like a pack inside the directory fonts. If I put that route in the Blender File View, it wants to create new folder, it doesn't recognize it. It's getting trickier and trickier...

Robert Guetzkow commented

2020-03-23 13:50:25 +01:00

Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Archived'

Robert Guetzkow closed this issue

2020-03-23 13:50:25 +01:00

Robert Guetzkow self-assigned this 2020-03-23 13:50:25 +01:00

Robert Guetzkow commented

2020-03-23 13:50:25 +01:00

Blender isn't doing anything unusual, it simply displays the actual filenames. Windows tries to improve the user experience for cases where the filename is non-descriptive. It also displays fonts that aren't actually stored in C:\Windows\Fonts , but installed for a specific user in C:\Users\[your username]\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Fonts.

While I agree that this would be a nice feature, it's not a bug in Blender. I understand that the current implementation can be inconvenient. Perhaps this will be addressed in the future along with other improvements to Blender's font handling.

I'll be closing this ticket since this is a feature request.

Blender isn't doing anything unusual, it simply displays the actual filenames. Windows tries to improve the user experience for cases where the filename is non-descriptive. It also displays fonts that aren't actually stored in `C:\Windows\Fonts` , but installed for a specific user in `C:\Users\[your username]\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Fonts`. While I agree that this would be a nice feature, it's not a bug in Blender. I understand that the current implementation can be inconvenient. Perhaps this will be addressed in the future along with other improvements to Blender's font handling. I'll be closing this ticket since this is a feature request.

Aranzazu Hurtado commented

2020-03-23 13:57:00 +01:00

So what do we do to use a font in Blender? How do I have to do? Copy the font to a folder outside the windows fonts? not use the installed fonts? Are u kiddin' me? This is 2020...

Robert Guetzkow commented

2020-03-23 14:07:38 +01:00

You need to know two things:

The actual filename of the font
The location where the font file is stored

In order to do this, open your Windows Explorer and navigate to C:\Windows\Fonts. Right-click on the font you would like to use and select Properties. There you will find the filename and the location where the font file is stored. In case of your Montserrat font the filename is Montserrat-Medium.ttf and the location is C:\Users\Arantxa\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Fonts. Now you can open Blender's font selection dialog, change the directory/folder to the location where the font is stored and search for the filename.

Blender is running on Linux, macOS and Windows. The special behavior of the Windows Explorer for the Fonts directory exists only on Windows. Since Blender is an open source project, its development is community-driven and depends on the contributions of volunteers. There simply hasn't been any developer (yet) who has had time to address the very specific, platform-dependent behavior. Please check Blender's wiki if you would like to get involved and help to implement this feature.

You need to know two things: - The actual filename of the font - The location where the font file is stored In order to do this, open your Windows Explorer and navigate to `C:\Windows\Fonts`. Right-click on the font you would like to use and select *Properties*. There you will find the filename and the location where the font file is stored. In case of your Montserrat font the filename is `Montserrat-Medium.ttf` and the location is `C:\Users\Arantxa\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Fonts`. Now you can open Blender's font selection dialog, change the directory/folder to the location where the font is stored and search for the filename. Blender is running on Linux, macOS and Windows. The special behavior of the Windows Explorer for the Fonts directory exists only on Windows. Since Blender is an open source project, its development is community-driven and depends on the contributions of volunteers. There simply hasn't been any developer (yet) who has had time to address the very specific, platform-dependent behavior. Please check [Blender's wiki ](https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Main_Page) if you would like to get involved and help to implement this feature.

Aranzazu Hurtado commented

2020-03-23 14:40:39 +01:00

I can't believe it, but now at least I can use a installed font on Windows... wtf

And why does it show the name here? And not in the other route?

Well, thanks a lot @rjg

At least now I can search for a font

I can't believe it, but now at least I can use a installed font on Windows... wtf And why does it show the name here? And not in the other route? ![Blender_Fonts_error7.PNG](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8424989/Blender_Fonts_error7.PNG) Well, thanks a lot @rjg At least now I can search for a font

Robert Guetzkow commented

2020-03-23 14:46:58 +01:00

@zutxita The fonts from your last screenshot have proper filenames that include the name of the font family, as you would expect. As I've said before, Blender simply displays the filename. In this case the filename for the Futura LT Book font is Future LT Book.ttf. Some of your installed fonts have a strange filenames, like 111118.ttf which Blender displays as such. Perhaps you've downloaded a collection of font files where they didn't give them descriptive filenames? Apparently they've just enumerated them and used that as filename instead of using the actual font name.

@zutxita The fonts from your last screenshot have proper filenames that include the name of the font family, as you would expect. As I've said before, Blender simply displays the filename. In this case the filename for the Futura LT Book font is `Future LT Book.ttf`. Some of your installed fonts have a strange filenames, like `111118.ttf` which Blender displays as such. Perhaps you've downloaded a collection of font files where they didn't give them descriptive filenames? Apparently they've just enumerated them and used that as filename instead of using the actual font name.

blender-admin commented

2021-07-28 20:16:04 +02:00

This issue was referenced by 8aa1c0a326

This issue was referenced by 8aa1c0a326a838528470e79abad3abec343d1c9f

Harley Acheson commented

2021-07-28 20:18:16 +02:00

Changed status from 'Archived' to: 'Resolved'

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Font Names missing in Windows 10 #75028