Draw mode moderate/extreme Lag for pencil tool #77741

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opened 2020-06-11 00:22:13 +02:00 by Alex · 29 comments

System Information
Operating system: Mac OS-10.15.5 3.2 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i7, Mem 16 GB 2667 MHz DDR4
Graphics card: Intel UHD Graphics 630 1536 MB

Blender Version
Broken: version: 2.80 through 2.83.0, branch: master, commit date: 2020-06-03 14:38, hash: 211b6c29f7
Worked: 2.79b MacOS 10.6

Short description of error
All drawing tools are very laggy, the cursor lags far behind the pen tip. When I draw a curve, the arc of the curve is shortened and flattened after I lift the pen.
I use a Wacom Cintiq 24 pro, but the problem persists even when I draw with a mouse.
I do not have the same problem in 2.79 version.

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error

All drawing tools give me the same results.
lagTEST2.blend

**System Information** Operating system: Mac OS-10.15.5 3.2 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i7, Mem 16 GB 2667 MHz DDR4 Graphics card: Intel UHD Graphics 630 1536 MB **Blender Version** Broken: version: 2.80 through 2.83.0, branch: master, commit date: 2020-06-03 14:38, hash: `211b6c29f7` Worked: 2.79b MacOS 10.6 **Short description of error** All drawing tools are very laggy, the cursor lags far behind the pen tip. When I draw a curve, the arc of the curve is shortened and flattened after I lift the pen. I use a Wacom Cintiq 24 pro, but the problem persists even when I draw with a mouse. I do not have the same problem in 2.79 version. **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** All drawing tools give me the same results. [lagTEST2.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8606815/lagTEST2.blend)
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With "all drawing tools" you mean grease pencil or also other drawing modes?

With "all drawing tools" you mean grease pencil or also other drawing modes?
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I guess I only really use the grease pencil, but all the variations of the grease pencil give me the same issue (ink pen, marker, pencil, etc.)

I guess I only really use the grease pencil, but all the variations of the grease pencil give me the same issue (ink pen, marker, pencil, etc.)
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IMG_6295.MOV
Here's a brief video of the pen on the surface of the display, and the cursor lag. Sometimes it keeps drawing the line after I lift the pen, and unless I draw very slow, it corrects the arc of a line after I draw it.

[IMG_6295.MOV](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8608918/IMG_6295.MOV) Here's a brief video of the pen on the surface of the display, and the cursor lag. Sometimes it keeps drawing the line after I lift the pen, and unless I draw very slow, it corrects the arc of a line after I draw it.

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For me it's working fine on Cintiq 12WX with the latest 6.3.39-1 driver.

@ShadyACE do you have the latest Cintiq driver?

Bildschirmvideo aufnehmen 2020-06-17 um 10.36.36.mp4

For me it's working fine on Cintiq 12WX with the latest 6.3.39-1 driver. @ShadyACE do you have the latest Cintiq driver? [Bildschirmvideo aufnehmen 2020-06-17 um 10.36.36.mp4](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8627442/Bildschirmvideo_aufnehmen_2020-06-17_um_10.36.36.mp4)
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Yes, I have the latest driver on my cintiq (6.3.39-1) I tried updating everything, uninstalling and reinstalling, removing the settings and reseting them, so far nothing is working for me, and drawing in Blender is the only place I have any issues. Painting in Photoshop and Krita work fine, as well just mousing around with my pen.

Yes, I have the latest driver on my cintiq (6.3.39-1) I tried updating everything, uninstalling and reinstalling, removing the settings and reseting them, so far nothing is working for me, and drawing in Blender is the only place I have any issues. Painting in Photoshop and Krita work fine, as well just mousing around with my pen.
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I also get the same lag when I use the mouse. It's not quite as pronounced since I can't draw nearly as quickly with mouse, but it gives me the same lag problem.

I also get the same lag when I use the mouse. It's not quite as pronounced since I can't draw nearly as quickly with mouse, but it gives me the same lag problem.

Tested today also with Photoshop and Krita. With Blender and Photoshop it's working fine, but with Krita I've the same lag 🤔.

@ShadyACE do you have only Intel GPU? I think this issue is related to the crappy OSX GPU drivers 🙈

Tested today also with Photoshop and Krita. With Blender and Photoshop it's working fine, but with Krita I've the same lag 🤔. @ShadyACE do you have only Intel GPU? I think this issue is related to the crappy OSX GPU drivers 🙈
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I've been wondering the same thing about the GPU more and more. Initially I thought maybe it was just a setting change, but the more I research this, the more I think it's an issue with my system not handling Blender very well.

I went with a MacMini when I upgraded my system, but didn't really have 3d rendering, or video rendering in mind when I got it. If it's the case that I would just need to shell out for a decent eGPU, I'd be willing to do that if it would fix this issue, and help with rendering further down the line.

I've been wondering the same thing about the GPU more and more. Initially I thought maybe it was just a setting change, but the more I research this, the more I think it's an issue with my system not handling Blender very well. I went with a MacMini when I upgraded my system, but didn't really have 3d rendering, or video rendering in mind when I got it. If it's the case that I would just need to shell out for a decent eGPU, I'd be willing to do that if it would fix this issue, and help with rendering further down the line.
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Germano Cavalcante self-assigned this 2020-07-08 20:41:56 +02:00

What are the "steps for others to reproduce the error"?

Apparently the pertinent information in this report is scattered in the comments.

So:

This report does not contain all the requested information, which is required for us to investigate the issue.

Please submit a new report and carefully follow the instructions.

Here is a guide on how to make a good report:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTD0OJq_rF4

What are the `"steps for others to reproduce the error"`? Apparently the pertinent information in this report is scattered in the comments. So: ``` This report does not contain all the requested information, which is required for us to investigate the issue. Please submit a new report and carefully follow the instructions. ``` Here is a guide on how to make a good report: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTD0OJq_rF4
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The steps to reproduce this error is opening Blender and using the pencil tool.
The problem I'm trying to solve is NOT reproducing this error.
The only way I have as yet gotten it to work on my system is reverting to version 2.79

The steps to reproduce this error is opening Blender and using the pencil tool. The problem I'm trying to solve is NOT reproducing this error. The only way I have as yet gotten it to work on my system is reverting to version 2.79
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I would love to provide any additional system information that anybody needs to possibly solve this problem on my system. Flagging my problem as invalid doesn't help anybody, and I've been trying to solve this problem for a month now.

I would love to provide any additional system information that anybody needs to possibly solve this problem on my system. Flagging my problem as invalid doesn't help anybody, and I've been trying to solve this problem for a month now.

Changed status from 'Archived' to: 'Needs Triage'

Changed status from 'Archived' to: 'Needs Triage'
Germano Cavalcante removed their assignment 2020-07-08 23:01:04 +02:00

For a report to be valid we need to reproduce the problem. And I don't know exactly where to start reading the description.

I'm reopening the report to let someone else take a look.

For a report to be valid we need to reproduce the problem. And I don't know exactly where to start reading the description. I'm reopening the report to let someone else take a look.
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Thank you, is there any other information I can provide to help someone solve this?
I wouldn't mind resubmitting a better report if there's something I can include in it that will help move this further along, I just just don't know what steps I can provide to reproduce my problem since I haven't gotten it to work correctly since opening the program.
My intention is to use Blender as a storyboarding and animation platform, so a responsive drawing tool is absolutely essential for my purposes.

Perhaps there are options I can try on my own end, since my issue so far seems to be unique to my system?

Thank you, is there any other information I can provide to help someone solve this? I wouldn't mind resubmitting a better report if there's something I can include in it that will help move this further along, I just just don't know what steps I can provide to reproduce my problem since I haven't gotten it to work correctly since opening the program. My intention is to use Blender as a storyboarding and animation platform, so a responsive drawing tool is absolutely essential for my purposes. Perhaps there are options I can try on my own end, since my issue so far seems to be unique to my system?

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@ShadyACE I am looking at older reports, is this still an issue? Or have anything changed?

@ShadyACE I am looking at older reports, is this still an issue? Or have anything changed?

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Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'

@ShadyACE There have been fixes for such issues, please try the latest builds. https://builder.blender.org/download/

@ShadyACE There have been fixes for such issues, please try the latest builds. https://builder.blender.org/download/

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Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Archived'

Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Archived'

No activity for more than a week. As per the tracker policy we assume the issue is gone and can be closed.

Thanks again for the report. If the problem persists please open a new report with the required information.

No activity for more than a week. As per the tracker policy we assume the issue is gone and can be closed. Thanks again for the report. If the problem persists please open a new report with the required information.
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