emulate numpad disables modifier keys on smaller keyboards. #80795

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Kent Davis · 2020-09-15T08:05:56+02:00

Kent Davis commented

2020-09-15 08:05:56 +02:00

System Information
Operating system: Darwin-20.1.0-x86_64-i386-64bit 64 Bits
Graphics card: AMD Radeon Pro 575 OpenGL Engine ATI Technologies Inc. 4.1 ATI-4.0.36

Blender Version
Broken: version: 2.91.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2020-09-14 21:16, hash: 26a827f254 Also, 2.83.5
Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected)

Short description of error
Shortcut CTRL-1 for mac not work (Subdivision Set) when emulate numpad is enabled.
No modifier key (ctrl, command) takes effect when used with number keys.

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error

Turn off these four shortcuts for desktop switching in system preferences:
Turn on emulate numpad.
Press 1, change the view to some arbitrary view, press command 1, change the view to some another arbitrary view, press ctrl 1.

MacOS 11 Beta
Blender 2.91 Alpha
September 14, 23:31:19- 26a827f254
macOS 64 bit

Push the Control + 1 not work for Mac make Subdivision Set
https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/latest/modeling/modifiers/generate/subdivision_surface.html#keyboard-shortcuts

Youtube: https://youtu.be/9f-bVIP0xDE?t=158
Time: (2:40)
"CTRL - 1"

For Mac only Not for Windows.

**System Information** Operating system: Darwin-20.1.0-x86_64-i386-64bit 64 Bits Graphics card: AMD Radeon Pro 575 OpenGL Engine ATI Technologies Inc. 4.1 ATI-4.0.36 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 2.91.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2020-09-14 21:16, hash: `26a827f254` Also, 2.83.5 Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected) **Short description of error** Shortcut CTRL-1 for mac not work (Subdivision Set) when emulate numpad is enabled. No modifier key (ctrl, command) takes effect when used with number keys. **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** - Turn off these four shortcuts for desktop switching in system preferences: ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9284204/image.png) - Turn on emulate numpad. - Press 1, change the view to some arbitrary view, press command 1, change the view to some another arbitrary view, press ctrl 1. MacOS 11 Beta Blender 2.91 Alpha September 14, 23:31:19- 26a827f25448 macOS 64 bit Push the Control + 1 not work for Mac make Subdivision Set https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/latest/modeling/modifiers/generate/subdivision_surface.html#keyboard-shortcuts Youtube: https://youtu.be/9f-bVIP0xDE?t=158 Time: (2:40) "CTRL - 1" For Mac only Not for Windows.

Kent Davis commented

2020-09-15 08:05:56 +02:00

Added subscriber: @Kent-Davis

Ankit Meel commented

2020-09-15 13:03:31 +02:00

Added subscriber: @ankitm

Ankit Meel commented

2020-09-15 13:03:31 +02:00

On Blender for Mac, ctrl and command often work interchangeably. Does {key command 1} work to subdivide ?

Kent Davis commented

2020-09-15 13:06:24 +02:00

Not work too
I did Command + 1 not work
Control + 1 not work too

I check Preferences > Keymap and I found there is active already and I tried still not work.

Not work too I did Command + 1 not work Control + 1 not work too I check Preferences > Keymap and I found there is active already and I tried still not work.

Yevgeny Makarov commented

2020-09-15 13:36:04 +02:00

Added subscriber: @jenkm

Yevgeny Makarov commented

2020-09-15 13:36:04 +02:00

Control + 1 - the default macOS shortcut for switching between desktop spaces, can be disabled in the System Preferences.

**Control + 1** - the default macOS shortcut for switching between desktop spaces, can be disabled in the System Preferences.

Ankit Meel commented

2020-09-15 13:40:53 +02:00

But {key command 1} should work too. I can subdivide using command 1, 2 etc on 716ea15479

![Screenshot 2020-09-15 at 17.09.15.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8882881/Screenshot_2020-09-15_at_17.09.15.png) But {key command 1} should work too. I can subdivide using command 1, 2 etc on 716ea15479

Kent Davis commented

2020-09-15 14:02:42 +02:00

I already turn off everything for a long time until now.

I already turn off everything for a long time until now. ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8882984/image.png)

Kent Davis commented

2020-09-15 14:05:13 +02:00

![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8882998/image.png)

Kent Davis commented

2020-11-14 01:19:28 +01:00

Added subscriber: @iss

Kent Davis commented

2020-11-14 01:19:28 +01:00

@ankitm
@jenkm
@iss

I spoke to (800) my-apple and there Apple store was full schedule many times until boss decide to send me Space Gray Keyboard with Key number (Below keyboard of picture) that what I have Apple Care no cost tome.)
White keyboard was broken before. Now finally schedule available yaaa ay and I went to Apple store to exchange (White keyboard on top of picture)

Now I take test and I found out reason why.

@ankitm @jenkm @iss I spoke to (800) my-apple and there Apple store was full schedule many times until boss decide to send me Space Gray Keyboard with Key number (Below keyboard of picture) that what I have Apple Care no cost tome.) White keyboard was broken before. Now finally schedule available yaaa ay and I went to Apple store to exchange (White keyboard on top of picture) Now I take test and I found out reason why. ![IMG_0047.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9279411/IMG_0047.png) ![Screen Shot 2020-11-13 at 3.59.07 PM.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9279488/Screen_Shot_2020-11-13_at_3.59.07_PM.png) ![Screen Shot 2020-11-13 at 3.59.03 PM.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9279490/Screen_Shot_2020-11-13_at_3.59.03_PM.png) ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9279493/image.png)

Ankit Meel commented

2020-11-14 14:15:18 +01:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Confirmed'

Ankit Meel commented

2020-11-14 14:15:18 +01:00

Confirming the report. It may not be a bug but behaviour is different. When emulate numpad is enabled, modifier keys (ctrl, command) don't take effect. 1-2-3 work for changing views (orthographic etc)

Ankit Meel changed title from ~~Shortcut CTRL-1 for mac not work (Subdivision Set)~~ to emulate numpad disables modifier keys on smaller keyboards.

2020-11-14 14:19:03 +01:00

Yevgeny Makarov commented

2020-11-14 14:29:23 +01:00

I'm not sure what you mean. When you turn on "emulate numpad", it converts the 0-9 keys to a Numpad 0-9 keys, there is no more 0-9 keys.

When the "Emulate Numpad" is enabled.
Key combination Cmd + 1 equivalent to Cmd + Numpad 1.
Which performs the "View Axis / Back".

I'm not sure what you mean. When you turn on "emulate numpad", it converts the 0-9 keys to a Numpad 0-9 keys, there is no more 0-9 keys. *** When the "Emulate Numpad" is enabled. Key combination `Cmd + 1` equivalent to `Cmd + Numpad 1`. Which performs the "View Axis / Back".

Kent Davis commented

2020-11-14 21:42:23 +01:00

Now you got it understand. Not talk about System Preferences > Keyboard no no no.
Focus on Blender about Mac small keyboard and big keyboard + Key number.

Check box turn on with emulate numpad make 1 is front, 3 is side, 7 is top within small keyboard without keynum because of Command + 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 not work. Need to add feature to support Command + 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5.

Why not use your own Macintosh to take test yourself both small keyboard and big keyboard + Key Number about Subdivide on Command + 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 make sure - [x] emulate numpad and [ ] emulate numpad test.

Now you got it understand. Not talk about System Preferences > Keyboard no no no. Focus on Blender about Mac small keyboard and big keyboard + Key number. Check box turn on with emulate numpad make 1 is front, 3 is side, 7 is top within small keyboard without keynum because of Command + 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 not work. Need to add feature to support Command + 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5. Why not use your own Macintosh to take test yourself both small keyboard and big keyboard + Key Number about Subdivide on Command + 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 make sure - [x] emulate numpad and [ ] emulate numpad test.

Ankit Meel commented

2020-11-14 23:05:21 +01:00

In #80795#1054837, @jenkm wrote:
I'm not sure what you mean. When you turn on "emulate numpad", it converts the 0-9 keys to a Numpad 0-9 keys, there is no more 0-9 keys.

That is bad UX.. I have just one keyboard: the integrated one, and I need both subdivision and quick view changing. I have less shortcuts already, and if two combinations do the same thing.. it's a waste.
I'm not familiar with the constraints of why it behaves as it does, so I'm totally okay with a closed-as-invalid slam (;

> In #80795#1054837, @jenkm wrote: > I'm not sure what you mean. When you turn on "emulate numpad", it converts the 0-9 keys to a Numpad 0-9 keys, there is no more 0-9 keys. That is bad UX.. I have just one keyboard: the integrated one, and I need both subdivision and quick view changing. I have less shortcuts already, and if two combinations do the same thing.. it's a waste. I'm not familiar with the constraints of why it behaves as it does, so I'm totally okay with a closed-as-invalid slam (;

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emulate numpad disables modifier keys on smaller keyboards. #80795