Operators for visibility on active face set missing from menus #91900

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Reiner Prokein · 2021-10-02T18:52:22+02:00

Reiner Prokein commented

2021-10-02 18:52:22 +02:00

System Information
Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.19041-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: GeForce GTX 1060 6GB/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 461.09

Blender Version
Broken: version: 3.0.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2021-09-25 07:31, hash: 505422220d
Worked: Never

Short description of error
The default hotkey to show or hide the active face set does not appear in the menus.

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error

Open Blender
Switch to Sculpt Mode
Use the Draw Face Set brush to create some face sets
Use the shortcut H and Shift H to control the visibility of the active face set
Search for the mneu entires of these shortcuts

**System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.19041-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: GeForce GTX 1060 6GB/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 461.09 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 3.0.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2021-09-25 07:31, hash: `505422220d` Worked: Never **Short description of error** The default hotkey to show or hide the active face set does not appear in the menus. **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** - Open Blender - Switch to Sculpt Mode - Use the Draw Face Set brush to create some face sets - Use the shortcut `H` and `Shift H` to control the visibility of the active face set - Search for the mneu entires of these shortcuts

Reiner Prokein commented

2021-10-02 18:52:22 +02:00

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Pratik Borhade commented

2021-10-03 12:17:57 +02:00

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Pratik Borhade commented

2021-10-03 13:34:28 +02:00

It has other mode settings, which explains the disfunctionality of the original hotkey.

Hi, thanks for the report. I think the key H is used for Toggle Face sets visibility: https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Reference/Release_Notes/2.83/Sculpt#Face_Sets

Not sure if I understand the report but the key H is not assigned for Invert Visible Face Sets.

> It has other mode settings, which explains the disfunctionality of the original hotkey. Hi, thanks for the report. I think the key `H` is used for `Toggle Face sets visibility`: https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Reference/Release_Notes/2.83/Sculpt#Face_Sets Not sure if I understand the report but the key `H` is not assigned for `Invert Visible Face Sets`.

Reiner Prokein commented

2021-10-03 15:06:22 +02:00

Hmm. Okay. So we have in fact four different menu items to show and hide the face sets. But just two of them in the menu then?

Pratik Borhade commented

2021-10-04 08:02:47 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs Developer To Reproduce'

Pratik Borhade commented

2021-10-04 08:02:47 +02:00

So we have in fact four different menu items to show and hide the face sets. But just two of them in the menu then?

I think module members can answer this even better.

(Not sure if these visibility option should be exposed in the menu since these functions are used to hide and toggle visibility of active face set)

> So we have in fact four different menu items to show and hide the face sets. But just two of them in the menu then? I think module members can answer this even better. (Not sure if these visibility option should be exposed in the menu since these functions are used to hide and toggle visibility of active face set)

Reiner Prokein commented

2021-10-04 08:19:37 +02:00

But how should a user know about this functionality when it is hidden away from the user? :)

Maybe i ask the wrong question. In all other areas we have a show hidden, a hide selected and a hide unselected functionality. Why do we have four menu items here, with a from the user hidden away functionality? Shouldn't it work the same way for face sets like it does for all other cases?

But that's a UI UX design issue then. So feel free to close the issue. I was under the impression that i found a bug. Which i obviously didn't. Sorry for the false report.

But how should a user know about this functionality when it is hidden away from the user? :) Maybe i ask the wrong question. In all other areas we have a show hidden, a hide selected and a hide unselected functionality. Why do we have four menu items here, with a from the user hidden away functionality? Shouldn't it work the same way for face sets like it does for all other cases? But that's a UI UX design issue then. So feel free to close the issue. I was under the impression that i found a bug. Which i obviously didn't. Sorry for the false report.

Julien Kaspar commented

2022-09-21 11:53:14 +02:00

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Julien Kaspar commented

2022-09-21 11:53:14 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs Developer To Reproduce' to: 'Confirmed'

Julien Kaspar commented

2022-09-21 11:53:14 +02:00

This is not an issue exclusive to the #sculpt_paint_texture module. There are many operators that rely on the exact mouse position that are not part of the menus.
For example the mesh.select_linked_pick operator in edit mode via L. The sculpt.sample_color on S is also not part of any menu.

We could add these operators to the menu but they would be useless when used from there. I think this needs to be addressed in a broader way.
For example as a solution for the Transfer Mode operator on Alt Q we added a picker when executed from a menu, isntead of using the mouse position immediately. But customising this entry via the menu foesn't work.

Until we fix this issue, a clear manual and tutorials would help spread the knowledge of the keymap entries.

This is not an issue exclusive to the #sculpt_paint_texture module. There are many operators that rely on the exact mouse position that are not part of the menus. For example the `mesh.select_linked_pick` operator in edit mode via `L`. The `sculpt.sample_color` on `S` is also not part of any menu. We could add these operators to the menu but they would be useless when used from there. I think this needs to be addressed in a broader way. For example as a solution for the Transfer Mode operator on `Alt Q` we added a picker when executed from a menu, isntead of using the mouse position immediately. But customising this entry via the menu foesn't work. Until we fix this issue, a clear manual and tutorials would help spread the knowledge of the keymap entries.

Julien Kaspar changed title from ~~Sculpt mode , Face Sets Menu, hotkey for Invert Visible Face Sets not showing and working~~ to Operators for active face set missing from menus

2022-09-21 11:59:15 +02:00

Julien Kaspar changed title from ~~Operators for active face set missing from menus~~ to Operators for visibility on active face set missing from menus

2022-09-21 11:59:44 +02:00

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Operators for visibility on active face set missing from menus #91900