3d view's header no longer transparent (with Tool Settings hidden) #92844

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MACHIN3 · 2021-11-05T09:20:36+01:00

MACHIN3 commented

2021-11-05 09:20:36 +01:00

System Information
Operating system: Linux-4.15.0-159-generic-x86_64-with-glibc2.27 64 Bits
Graphics card: GeForce GTX 1050/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 460.91.03

Blender Version
Broken: version: 3.0.0 Beta, branch: master, commit date: 2021-11-02 22:38, hash: 11392829ad
Worked: 2.93 and earlier
Short description of error
The 3D view's header at the top or bottom of the screen is no longer transparent in 3.0, when the Show Tool Settings is disabled, as it used to be in earlier versions. I really liked the additional amount of screen space you could gain by disabling the tool settings.

See screenshot and compare green(before) with orange(now).

Whatever you do, there's now always the thick double bar at the top/bottom of the screen with plenty unused space.
In the 3D view's theme space, the header transparency only affects the tool settings, not the header itself.

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error

disable Show Tool Settings in 2.93 and 3.0

**System Information** Operating system: Linux-4.15.0-159-generic-x86_64-with-glibc2.27 64 Bits Graphics card: GeForce GTX 1050/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 460.91.03 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 3.0.0 Beta, branch: master, commit date: 2021-11-02 22:38, hash: `11392829ad` Worked: 2.93 and earlier **Short description of error** The 3D view's header at the top or bottom of the screen is no longer transparent in 3.0, when the `Show Tool Settings` is disabled, as it used to be in earlier versions. I really liked the additional amount of screen space you could gain by disabling the tool settings. See screenshot and compare green(before) with orange(now). ![additional_screen_space.jpg](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F11726930/additional_screen_space.jpg) Whatever you do, there's now always the thick double bar at the top/bottom of the screen with plenty unused space. In the 3D view's theme space, the header transparency only affects the tool settings, not the header itself. **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** * disable `Show Tool Settings` in 2.93 and 3.0

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MACHIN3 commented

2021-11-05 09:20:36 +01:00

Added subscriber: @MACHIN3

blender-admin commented

2021-11-05 09:20:36 +01:00

#92779 was marked as duplicate of this issue

Pratik Borhade commented

2021-11-05 14:27:40 +01:00

Added subscribers: @ideasman42, @PratikPB2123

Pratik Borhade commented

2021-11-05 14:27:40 +01:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs Developer To Reproduce'

Pratik Borhade commented

2021-11-05 14:27:40 +01:00

Hi, thanks for the report. Not bisected but I think this has been introduced because of 4cf4bb2664

This would lose the transparency on the header area, but add it on the tool settings, so the end result should be the same with the bottom portion being transparent if desired.

@ideasman42 , is this an expected behavior? At least Harley's comment is saying this behavior is intended (#91536#1222571)

Hi, thanks for the report. Not bisected but I think this has been introduced because of 4cf4bb2664 >This would lose the transparency on the header area, but add it on the tool settings, so the end result should be the same with the bottom portion being transparent if desired. @ideasman42 , is this an expected behavior? At least Harley's comment is saying this behavior is intended (#91536#1222571)

MACHIN3 commented

2021-11-05 14:33:20 +01:00

Thanks for finding that commit!

This would lose the transparency on the header area, but add it on the tool settings, so the end result should be the same with the bottom portion being transparent if desired.

As shown in my screenshot, it's not the same when Tool Settings are disabled.

Also, it looks like @ideasman42 inquired about exactly this already:

Allow the header background to be transparent (in the current patch the header background seems hardcoded to be opaque, regardless of the theme)

In the current patch only the tool-header can be made transparent by changing the "Header" alpha in the theme settings (matching current behavior where only one becomes transparent), are you saying you would want both headers to be transparent, controllable separately?

So, let me just say that yes, I would very much want to be able to do that.

Thanks for finding that commit! > This would lose the transparency on the header area, but add it on the tool settings, so the end result should be the same with the bottom portion being transparent if desired. As shown in my screenshot, it's not the same when Tool Settings are disabled. Also, it looks like @ideasman42 inquired about exactly this already: >> Allow the header background to be transparent (in the current patch the header background seems hardcoded to be opaque, regardless of the theme) > > In the current patch only the tool-header can be made transparent by changing the "Header" alpha in the theme settings (matching current behavior where only one becomes transparent), are you saying you would want both headers to be transparent, controllable separately? So, let me just say that yes, I would very much want to be able to do that.

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Harley Acheson commented

2021-11-05 14:38:31 +01:00

Added subscriber: @Harley

Harley Acheson commented

2021-11-05 14:38:31 +01:00

My comment was unrelated. It was part of some question and cautions I had about the design when it was first proposed by Francesco. I wasn’t part of any planning of, or implementation of, this feature so don’t know what is intended.

Campbell Barton commented

2021-11-08 07:54:12 +01:00

Note that this is more of a design decision, swapping the headers also swapped their overlay setting, ignoring the tool header - this means that the regular header (which used to overlap) now doesn't.

We could overlap both, although it feels a bit crowded to have 2x rows of buttons floating at the top of the 3D viewport.

diff --git a/source/blender/editors/screen/area.c b/source/blender/editors/screen/area.c
index 8523496bdbd..663034fde6e 100644
--- a/source/blender/editors/screen/area.c
+++ b/source/blender/editors/screen/area.c
@@ -1289,6 +1289,7 @@ bool ED_region_is_overlap(int spacetype, int regiontype)
                RGN_TYPE_UI,
                RGN_TYPE_TOOL_PROPS,
                RGN_TYPE_FOOTER,
+               RGN_TYPE_HEADER,
                RGN_TYPE_TOOL_HEADER)) {
         return true;
       }

Note that this is more of a design decision, swapping the headers also swapped their overlay setting, ignoring the tool header - this means that the regular header (which used to overlap) now doesn't. We could overlap both, although it feels a bit crowded to have 2x rows of buttons floating at the top of the 3D viewport. ``` diff --git a/source/blender/editors/screen/area.c b/source/blender/editors/screen/area.c index 8523496bdbd..663034fde6e 100644 --- a/source/blender/editors/screen/area.c +++ b/source/blender/editors/screen/area.c @@ -1289,6 +1289,7 @@ bool ED_region_is_overlap(int spacetype, int regiontype) RGN_TYPE_UI, RGN_TYPE_TOOL_PROPS, RGN_TYPE_FOOTER, + RGN_TYPE_HEADER, RGN_TYPE_TOOL_HEADER)) { return true; } ```

MACHIN3 commented

2021-11-08 07:58:27 +01:00

We could overlap both, although it feels a bit crowded to have 2x rows of buttons floating at the top of the 3D viewport.

I understand that. But I tend to work without the Tool Settings. So 2 rows of floating buttons are no concern to me.

> We could overlap both, although it feels a bit crowded to have 2x rows of buttons floating at the top of the 3D viewport. I understand that. But I tend to work without the Tool Settings. So 2 rows of floating buttons are no concern to me.

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Eugene commented

2021-11-08 08:19:04 +01:00

Added subscriber: @SergienkoEugene

Eugene commented

2021-11-08 08:19:04 +01:00

If possible, I would support the idea of "optionality" of the header.
I also like more free space on the screen.
An overabundance of buttons and interface hinders, it's like a step back. I think so.

If possible, I would support the idea of "optionality" of the header. I also like more free space on the screen. An overabundance of buttons and interface hinders, it's like a step back. I think so.

Guillaume Tjeka commented

2022-05-08 15:20:47 +02:00

Added subscriber: @apprenti90