Problem with navigating in 3D view (Or a bug in detecting pressed keys) #98933

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Tido · 2022-06-16T13:40:11+02:00

Tido commented

2022-06-16 13:40:11 +02:00

System Information
Operating system: Windows 10
Graphics card: RX560

Blender Version
Broken: 3.2.0 (Latest on steam)
Worked: Older version on steam (3.1.0)

Short description of error
I'm using keyboard key 'Q' instead of middle mouse button for panning and rotating in 3D view. so to pan around , I use Shift+Q . Yesterday my blender got updated to the latest stable release (3.2.0) and ever since I'm experiencing a weird problem while pressing and releasing these keys so fast. Sometimes blender doesn't detect these keys when I press and release them so fast. I've installed Screencast keys add-on , and when the problem happens, instead of showing me that I'm holding Shift+Q , It shows that I'm pressing them repeatedly.(see the video)
2022-06-16 15-40-00.mkv

(I've used a keyboard tester to see if the problem is with my keyboard , but my keyboard was ok)
Exact steps for others to reproduce the error

Set up these keyboard shortcuts by clicking on button and pressing key on keyboard:
3DView (Global) Rotate View : Q
3DView (Global) Pan View : W

To trigger the bug:

Press and hold Q key
Press and hold W key
Release Q key
Release W key

Now Blender is running view3d.rotate operator

**System Information** Operating system: Windows 10 Graphics card: RX560 **Blender Version** Broken: 3.2.0 (Latest on steam) Worked: Older version on steam (3.1.0) **Short description of error** I'm using keyboard key 'Q' instead of middle mouse button for panning and rotating in 3D view. so to pan around , I use Shift+Q . Yesterday my blender got updated to the latest stable release (3.2.0) and ever since I'm experiencing a weird problem while pressing and releasing these keys so fast. Sometimes blender doesn't detect these keys when I press and release them so fast. I've installed Screencast keys add-on , and when the problem happens, instead of showing me that I'm holding Shift+Q , It shows that I'm pressing them repeatedly.(see the video) [2022-06-16 15-40-00.mkv](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13173629/2022-06-16_15-40-00.mkv) (I've used a keyboard tester to see if the problem is with my keyboard , but my keyboard was ok) **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** Set up these keyboard shortcuts by clicking on button and pressing key on keyboard: 3DView (Global) Rotate View : Q 3DView (Global) Pan View : W To trigger the bug: - Press and hold Q key - Press and hold W key - Release Q key - Release W key Now Blender is running `view3d.rotate` operator

Tido commented

2022-06-16 13:40:11 +02:00

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Omar Emara commented

2022-06-20 10:54:18 +02:00

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Omar Emara commented

2022-06-20 10:54:18 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'

Omar Emara commented

2022-06-20 10:54:18 +02:00

I can't replicate that on Linux myself.
Not sure if that would make any difference, but could you try a non-steam version?

I can't replicate that on Linux myself. Not sure if that would make any difference, but could you try a non-steam version?

Bacardi commented

2022-06-20 11:40:43 +02:00

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Bacardi commented

2022-06-20 11:40:43 +02:00

It would help us to look your problem:
After you edit shortcut keys and you get that "bug" in action. Go to settings, Keymap and upper right corner you see "Export..." button.
You can save Key configuration file (*.py).
Zip and upload that file in here.

This is example. Don't use mine.
Please, dont download this example.zip

*edit
I somehow got that problem.
Windows 10, non-steam version. Blender 3.2.0

Happens when you double tap Q-button (hold last tap some time), then you not move your mouse cursor much from current location. Then next action maybe not work.

With default Key confiqurations, you get Quick Favourites windows with Q button.

I guess, that interfear your shortcut keys. That window disappear after few seconds, before that it cancel your 3D movements.

You can disable or change key binding from Keymap -> Quick Favourites.

But problem maybe still happen, even you disabled that Quick Favourite and
use your Q buttons for Rotate/Pan/Zoom. You maybe want try change Q button to else as well.

It would help us to look your problem: After you edit shortcut keys and you get that "bug" in action. Go to settings, Keymap and upper right corner you see "**Export...**" button. You can save Key configuration file (*.py). Zip and upload that file in here. This is example. Don't use mine. [Please, dont download this example.zip](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13206446/Please__dont_download_this_example.zip) *edit I somehow got that problem. Windows 10, non-steam version. Blender 3.2.0 Happens when you double tap Q-button (hold last tap some time), then you not move your mouse cursor much from current location. Then next action maybe not work. With default Key confiqurations, you get **Quick Favourites** windows with Q button. ![Desktop Screenshot 2022.06.20 - 12.54.57.22.jpg](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13206563/Desktop_Screenshot_2022.06.20_-_12.54.57.22.jpg) I guess, that interfear your shortcut keys. That window disappear after few seconds, before that it cancel your 3D movements. You can disable or change key binding from Keymap -> Quick Favourites. But problem maybe still happen, even you disabled that Quick Favourite and use your Q buttons for Rotate/Pan/Zoom. You maybe want try change Q button to else as well.

Tido commented

2022-06-20 15:29:22 +02:00

Here is the keymap setting if you still need it:
Blender.py

My Quick Favorites is bound to middle click so that can't cause the problem
I thought that another action which uses key 'Q' might be causing the problem, so I disabled all the shortcuts that used the 'Q' key but didn't make any difference and the problem still remains.
The thing is it was ok before the 3.2.0 update. I've been using Blender for like 5 years (since version 2.79) and never had this problem before, and I think it would be a bit hard for me to change my keymap now.

In #98933#1376899, @OmarEmaraDev wrote:
I can't replicate that on Linux myself.
Not sure if that would make any difference, but could you try a non-steam version?

I tried with non-steam 3.2.0 and the problem is still there.

edit : 3.3.0 alpha is the same.

Here is the keymap setting if you still need it: [Blender.py](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13207345/Blender.py) My Quick Favorites is bound to middle click so that can't cause the problem I thought that another action which uses key 'Q' might be causing the problem, so I disabled all the shortcuts that used the 'Q' key but didn't make any difference and the problem still remains. The thing is it was ok before the 3.2.0 update. I've been using Blender for like 5 years (since version 2.79) and never had this problem before, and I think it would be a bit hard for me to change my keymap now. > In #98933#1376899, @OmarEmaraDev wrote: > I can't replicate that on Linux myself. > Not sure if that would make any difference, but could you try a non-steam version? I tried with non-steam 3.2.0 and the problem is still there. edit : 3.3.0 alpha is the same.

Omar Emara commented

2022-06-22 08:25:18 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Needs Triage'

Omar Emara commented

2022-06-22 08:25:18 +02:00

Still can't reproduce the issue with this keymap. I will leave this to someone on the Windows platform.

Pratik Borhade commented

2022-06-23 07:06:23 +02:00

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Pratik Borhade commented

2022-06-23 07:06:23 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'

Pratik Borhade commented

2022-06-23 07:06:23 +02:00

Can't reproduce either in 3.3 on Windows
Maybe key-configuration of a particular add-on is interfering? Could you disable your active add-ons and try again?

Can't reproduce either in 3.3 on Windows Maybe key-configuration of a particular add-on is interfering? Could you disable your active add-ons and try again?

Tido commented

2022-06-23 14:32:06 +02:00

I have tried with a new blender installation (no config ,keymap, addon, etc...) but the problem is there.

Bacardi commented

2022-06-23 20:48:39 +02:00

I tested on Blender versions 2.93, 3.0, 3.1.0
I changed Rotate View to button Wand Pan View to button R.

All those version have this... "feature" what OP have problem with.

There is slight delay, after releasing first button. Example if you very quickly change to next button, it not recognise it.

Normally I use Blender default keymap (Using mouse middle button for those action), I don't get that OP's problem, because I'm not fast enough to change between those two actions.

And I don't see, this is huge issue. Not sure is problem in hardware.

I use desktop PC, Windows 10
Ryzen 9 5950x + RTX 3090
Microsoft Comfort Curve keyboard 3000 - USB
G-Sync enabled.

I tested on Blender versions 2.93, 3.0, 3.1.0 I changed Rotate View to button **W**and Pan View to button **R**. All those version have this... "feature" what OP have problem with. **There is slight delay, after releasing first button. Example if you very quickly change to next button, it not recognise it.** Normally I use Blender default keymap (Using mouse middle button for those action), I don't get that OP's problem, because I'm not fast enough to change between those two actions. And I don't see, this is huge issue. Not sure is problem in hardware. I use desktop PC, Windows 10 Ryzen 9 5950x + RTX 3090 Microsoft Comfort Curve keyboard 3000 - USB G-Sync enabled.

Pratik Borhade commented

2022-06-24 04:59:58 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Needs Triage'

Richard Antalik commented

2022-07-08 21:38:05 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Confirmed'

Richard Antalik commented

2022-07-08 21:44:28 +02:00

Added subscriber: @iss

Richard Antalik commented

2022-07-08 21:44:28 +02:00

Just a note, looking at exported keyboard, I am not sure if my steps are same issue as reported originally - in my case any event is used in keymap and in keymap press event is used.

Just a note, looking at exported keyboard, I am not sure if my steps are same issue as reported originally - in my case `any` event is used in keymap and in keymap `press` event is used.

Tido commented

2022-07-19 10:33:26 +02:00

Changed status from 'Confirmed' to: 'Resolved'

Tido closed this issue

2022-07-19 10:33:26 +02:00

Tido self-assigned this 2022-07-19 10:33:26 +02:00

Tido commented

2022-07-19 10:33:26 +02:00

After 3.2.1 update the problem seems to be gone.

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Problem with navigating in 3D view (Or a bug in detecting pressed keys) #98933