blender doesnt read NAS #99008

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HF · 2022-06-20T07:37:14+02:00

HF commented

2022-06-20 07:37:14 +02:00

System Information
Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.19042-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 511.65

Blender Version
Broken: version: 3.2.0, branch: master, commit date: 2022-06-08 10:22, hash: e05e1e3691

Short description of error
When opening files NAS is not shown{F13205771}

asset saved on NAS will not load as well

**System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.19042-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 511.65 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 3.2.0, branch: master, commit date: 2022-06-08 10:22, hash: `e05e1e3691` **Short description of error** When opening files NAS is not shown{[F13205771](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13205771/image.png)} asset saved on NAS will not load as well

HF commented

2022-06-20 07:37:14 +02:00

Added subscriber: @Hongyu

Thomas Dinges commented

2022-06-20 14:50:01 +02:00

Added subscriber: @ThomasDinges

Thomas Dinges commented

2022-06-20 14:50:01 +02:00

I cannot confirm that with Blender 3.2 nor Blender 3.3 Alpha. Works fine here with a NAS drive.

It's important to connect to the drive though, before opening Blender. Unconnected drives are not shown.

I cannot confirm that with Blender 3.2 nor Blender 3.3 Alpha. Works fine here with a NAS drive. It's important to connect to the drive though, before opening Blender. Unconnected drives are not shown.

Richard Antalik commented

2022-06-20 17:45:35 +02:00

Added subscriber: @iss

Richard Antalik commented

2022-06-20 17:45:35 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'

Richard Antalik commented

2022-06-20 17:45:35 +02:00

@Hongyu Please try restarting Blender - does that help?

If not, we will need more information, like model of NAS to check if this is common issue.

@Hongyu Please try restarting Blender - does that help? If not, we will need more information, like model of NAS to check if this is common issue.

HF commented

2022-06-20 17:46:57 +02:00

I found out this only happens when I run as administrator which is required by some addons like the sketchfab addon

Richard Antalik commented

2022-06-20 19:23:52 +02:00

That's interesting, but not sure why that would be an issue. Still I would need NAS model to check its specs. I would assume that it's using some weird API or perhaps you have to configure it to work with all users

HF commented

2022-07-02 03:02:48 +02:00

the model is qnap ts-1635ax

Richard Antalik commented

2022-07-04 17:11:38 +02:00

Thanks for info. I see that NAS does support samba sharing, which I assume you would then configure it as network drive like this:

Can you confirm that your NAS drive has its letter and you see it listed in "This PC"?

Thanks for info. I see that NAS does support samba sharing, which I assume you would then configure it as network drive like this: ![Untitled.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13257891/Untitled.png) Can you confirm that your NAS drive has its letter and you see it listed in "This PC"?

HF commented

2022-07-05 04:50:40 +02:00

yes, i do see it. in my pc and in blender

but when i run blender as administrator i cant see it in blender anymore

yes, i do see it. in my pc and in blender but when i run blender as administrator i cant see it in blender anymore

Richard Antalik commented

2022-07-07 15:35:10 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Needs Developer To Reproduce'

Richard Antalik commented

2022-07-07 15:35:10 +02:00

Added subscriber: @Harley

Richard Antalik commented

2022-07-07 15:35:10 +02:00

@Hongyu Thanks for info, I can reproduce this issue when running as admin too. Don't think this could be considered as bug in Blender though. You can follow guide at https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-client/networking/mapped-drives-not-available-from-elevated-command to resolve this issue.

@Harley Seems that GetLogicalDrives() does not report network drives "correctly" in this case. According to https://stackoverflow.com/questions/42767614/how-to-correctly-detect-network-drive-when-running-with-elevated-privileges it seems like it would be possible to work around, but the code seems a bit magical to me. Do you think this is something you would like to resolve or shall I close this report?

@Hongyu Thanks for info, I can reproduce this issue when running as admin too. Don't think this could be considered as bug in Blender though. You can follow guide at https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-client/networking/mapped-drives-not-available-from-elevated-command to resolve this issue. @Harley Seems that `GetLogicalDrives()` does not report network drives "correctly" in this case. According to https://stackoverflow.com/questions/42767614/how-to-correctly-detect-network-drive-when-running-with-elevated-privileges it seems like it would be possible to work around, but the code seems a bit magical to me. Do you think this is something you would like to resolve or shall I close this report?

Harley Acheson commented

2022-07-07 16:58:53 +02:00

@iss - As far as I can tell this isn't really a Blender issue...

If you map a network drive as person A, but then launch the program as person B, you won't see that drive mapping. Not sure that this could even be solved with user tokens since the program running as B doesn't even know who A is.

If I were having this problem I would just make a batch file that:

drops that drive mapping if set
maps the share to the drive letter
launches Blender

And then run that batch file as Administrator. Should work perfectly.

You could also just use the UNC patch instead of the drive letter. So if you are mapping *server/sharename to to F:, just copy *server/sharename into the Blender File Browser location bar, bookmark that.

Another (distant) possibility is to show users unmapped network shares: D6802: Test Only: Available Windows Network Shares but the discovery process can take a while on some systems (although almost instant on well-designed large domains).

@iss - As far as I can tell this isn't really a Blender issue... If you map a network drive as person **A**, but then launch the program as person **B**, you won't see that drive mapping. Not sure that this could even be solved with user tokens since the program running as **B** doesn't even know who **A** is. If I were having this problem I would just make a batch file that: - drops that drive mapping if set - maps the share to the drive letter - launches Blender **And then run that batch file as Administrator**. Should work perfectly. You could also just use the UNC patch instead of the drive letter. So if you are mapping `*server/sharename` to to `F:`, just copy `*server/sharename` into the Blender File Browser location bar, bookmark that. Another (distant) possibility is to show users *unmapped* network shares: [D6802: Test Only: Available Windows Network Shares](https://archive.blender.org/developer/D6802) but the discovery process can take a while on some systems (although almost instant on well-designed large domains).

Ray molenkamp commented

2022-07-07 17:16:54 +02:00

Added subscriber: @LazyDodo

Ray molenkamp commented

2022-07-07 17:16:54 +02:00

Blender requires no special permissions there should be no need to run it as administrator, we generally advise against it since it also prevents drag and drop from working from unprivileged processes like explorer

HF commented

2022-07-07 17:42:04 +02:00

I only run as admin because Sketchfab addon requires it or it won't work correctly

Harley Acheson commented

2022-07-07 17:44:45 +02:00

In #99008#1387221, @LazyDodo wrote:
Blender requires no special permissions there should be no need to run it as administrator, we generally advise against it since it also prevents drag and drop from working from unprivileged processes like explorer

They mentioned that they "run as administrator which is required by some addons like the sketchfab addon". Would make more sense to fix those addons, since that should never be required. Hate to make someone's experience worse - and potentially unsafe - just to accommodate some funky addons.

> In #99008#1387221, @LazyDodo wrote: > Blender requires no special permissions there should be no need to run it as administrator, we generally advise against it since it also prevents drag and drop from working from unprivileged processes like explorer They mentioned that they "run as administrator which is required by some addons like the sketchfab addon". Would make more sense to fix those addons, since that should never be required. Hate to make someone's experience worse - and potentially unsafe - just to accommodate some funky addons.

HF commented

2022-07-07 19:45:13 +02:00

I wish they can fix it. Reported it long ago on git hub. The developer is very inactive

Richard Antalik commented

2022-07-07 19:53:16 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs Developer To Reproduce' to: 'Archived'

Richard Antalik closed this issue

2022-07-07 19:53:16 +02:00

Richard Antalik commented

2022-07-07 19:53:16 +02:00

Thank you all for info. Will close this report, since this is not bug in Blender.

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blender doesnt read NAS #99008