This sounds great! All of those are wonderful improvements. Is this in daily builds yet? Any way for a non-compiler like myself to try it out?

In D12776#334972, @Sebastian Koenig (sebastian_k) wrote:

In D12776#334926, @Sergey Sharybin (sergey) wrote:

Not so much sure from a user design perspective. Assigning colors at random has issues of (a) possibly choosing worst visible color for the footage (b) not themeable. A palette approach similar to bone groups could solve some things.

I am not sure. A palette seems a bit like an overkill for it.
Having random colors (especially if they do not start with blue or green) would be quite useful to quickly see the single elements. And if a mask should in fact interfere with the footage, the user can always quickly change it.
Also, other compositing packages work in a very similar way: new masks shapes get a new random color by default.
Maybe we could have a setting in the Mask Display panel to choose if splines should be drawn with mask layer color or in white or black.
But I'd be curious to hear @Sean Kennedy (hype)'s opinion on this.

Looking forward to trying this out! Is it in daily builds yet? I haven't checked. Wonderful feature to finally have!

That all makes sense, thanks

I'm generally ok with this list being updated, although the removal of all iphone and gopro options is not ideal. They're not professional cameras, but I'd bet a huge percentage of hobbyist users are shooting on a phone.

Sounds good to me, looking forward to an update!

Sean Kennedy (hype) what do you think about this?

Setup Tracking Scene also makes the Film transparent, creates a foreground collection with a Cube and can setup a shadow catcher, if needed

So for it to be "Sean-interpolation", you would leave "o" turned off and simply set keyframes around the area you want to adjust, then adjust and let the falloff to nearest keyframes happen linearly.

Clever solution, I like it! So as long as you don't touch the scroll wheel, proportional editing never comes into play.

Excited to try the new build when it shows up!

Nice! Seems to be working nicely.

Got an error when I tried to run it. Probably super simple to fix, but I don't know anything about coding so I have no idea how to fix it.

Would it also be possible to make the entire node tree optional? Many times when I click Setup tracking Scene, I only want the 3D stuff, not the node setup. I end up deleting and/or moving around the nodes to my own preferences, anyway. Could be a simple check box under the button "setup nodes", something simple like that

We definitely want anchor point averaged

This demo is using the build from Aug 2017, and it had wonderful asymmetric adjusting. Still a very useful thing, but not sure how to make it workable with the standard proportional editing tools.

Ah, wow, good catch, @Sebastian Koenig (sebastian_k) Now I can access it! Thanks for finding that! I never start a project like that, since I have my startup file with the motion tracking panel already open and setup.

Here's a file that I created in that proportional editing branch from https://builder.blender.org/download/branches/
No footage, just tracked a single point and saved the file.

I can, but there is literally nothing to the project at all. I opened a piece of footage, tracked any random spot, then went to see if I could adjust the track with falloff in any way and could not. I didn't save any projects, but I can import a piece of footage and track one thing for you, if that will somehow help. Maybe you want to see what's stored in the code of the project or something, from me saving it in that downloaded branch of Blender?

I redownloaded it from the branches webpage, still the same problem, which is expected, as it's the same build from Jan 5. So still no luck. I guess I can check every few days to see if that branch updates its build.

I couldn't get it to work yet, so just want to make sure I'm doing it right. Made a short video.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0zh6xrpafjlgn5d/tracking_proportional_editing_problem.mp4?dl=0

Works as expected! Very nice!

Not in the 2.92 alpha build. If anyone compiled this for Windows, any chance you can share the portable zip?

Not in the 2.92 alpha build. If anyone compiled this for Windows, any chance you can share the portable zip?

Happy New Year, gang!

it would be nice to have an orientation tool

definitely to resolve situations with rolling shutter

Bumping this task again. This is such an important and useful function, and I still would love to see it implemented.

My knowledge of the details and intriciacies of matchmoving and camera solving are not nearly as deep as all yours, so please excuse any misunderstandings or gaps in my knowledge.

I also get the lines with the OP blend file

My new computer arrives in a week, if there's anything I can test for you after that, please just ask. Excited to improve this!

Today's Blender build still seems to have the issue. This is with Adaptive Domain turned on, I didn't try with it turned off yet.

I created the same image in Natron instead of Nuke, and it worked fine. I did NOT include the z depth pass in this EXR. Otherwise, I used all the same image output settings that I used when rendering from Nuke.

I've also run into this bug using the latest stable build of Blender 2.82a. Working on the workflow for STmap lens distortion/undistortion, the STmap I created in Nuke kept importing into Blender as completely black. When I added in a depth pass (not any real information, just a solid color value in the depth channel) and re-saved the EXR, it worked fine.

I agree, I'd love to see this added into Blender! It's an absolute must-have for VFX. I also think Lawson's suggestions are spectacular and the ideal way to implement it.

Checking up on this. Any progress?
Had someone ask our local facebook group about this very feature over the past couple days.

Awesome! Very excited to test this out!

Perhaps we can all go over it together at the Conf? I'm very excited for this feature and would like to hear what you guys had in mind.

Can we please have this added for 2.81?

Can we please get this added in for 2.81?

Love it, good catch!

Was this issue solved? I downloaded a build on July 6 (Hash 699193713fc0) and it's still working where you have to hit "T", select the cut tool, then cut, then go back to the Select tool. I agree with the original poster that the way it worked in 2.79 was much more efficient and useful.

I am struggling to find an easy way to do this, as well. It was very easy in 2.79 and just worked. Being able to use wireframe mode and see a background plate is invaluable for vfx work. It's more or less required.

Perhaps I should create a separate bug report, but also when in the MCE, right click controls the timeline and the time slider in the dope sheet. Shouldn't those also be left click?

Also, once the mask is drawn, you cannot select the vertices and adjust them with left clicking, only with right clicking and dragging. It should all be left clicking.

Not sculpting, but rotoscoping. Drawing a mask for rotoscoping in the MCE.

That would be fine, although I use Detect Features more than I use the Track Setting as Default or Copy Track Settings.

This is very nice, seems to be intuitive.

I agree with you for sure that Blender's accuracy is spectacular. :)

I'm excited to see these tools in the topbar to see how it really feels in action.

Would it be possible to only have one set of Track Settings? Whatever it is set to when you create a new track, that's what the new track uses. If you have a track selected, those controls then apply to that selected track. It's confusing having two, and this would streamline it quite a bit.

In D2106#84303, @adam earle (adamearle) wrote:

So I am wondering is there any need for this kinda thang anymore?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrPC6nkv7L0

This is interesting, for sure. I'm not sure that in a typical compositing workflow if it would be extremely useful, but from the examples posted, it certainly looks like you can do some very artsy, creative stuff with it.

In D3606#83548, @Michael P. (forest-house) wrote:

Hey @Sean Kennedy (hype), do you think that viewing the matte for cryptomatte objects in the image editor is a useful feature?

Hoping this is in the latest trunk, and makes it to 2.8. I haven't forgotten about these awesome motion tracking updates!

Any more work done on this lately, has it been added to trunk and I missed it? And will it be ported to 2.8? Still looking forward to having this feature!

Interesting idea, being able to set the amount of frames. Right now I believe it works between keyframes, which is how a typical matchmover works in their daily tracking work. I prefer the keyframe way myself, since it's very easy to simply set a keyframe on the last good frame, then go to where the drift is at it's worst and adjust it. If we do add the amount of frames option, let's please still retain the current functionality, as well. I do also like the idea of it being a mode to enable, or even just a checkbox to turn it on or off, so you definitely know when you are in refining mode.

I'm happy to test this if there's any updates and an updated Windows build.

This is great! Happy to test it if a Windows build is available!

I would indeed find this very useful. For example, say I turn on border render to render out a small vfx element faster. Then I get notes on the shot, so I go and do more versions, versioning up as I go, turning off border render because maybe in these new versions the effect is different. Eventually they settle on something very similar to the first version I submitted that had been rendered with border turned on, but I'm now 10 versions later and I've moved the border to other places. My compositing setup (in Nuke) is already setup, so if I can render with the exact same border dimensions as 10 versions earlier, I can easily just drop in the new render and not have to worry about anything. That's how I'd use it most.

Working great when using G to move around the marker, and also works with arrow key nudging after pressing G.

Awesome, thanks! Will test this weekend!

Anyone have a build for Windows I could test? :)

In T51844#441528, @Campbell Barton (campbellbarton) wrote:

• @Sean Kennedy (hype) Good suggestions, added. Question though - is this for tracking points or mask too?

Node-Editor / Compositor:
Corner Pin node:
This node desperately needs a widget. Pretty simple widget, just four corners. I suppose it could also have the soon-to-be-standard transform widget in the center of it, as well (that would be a nice bonus!)

Looks neat! I'd be happy to test it on some vfx type things.

In D1788#50245, @Sean Kennedy (hype) wrote:

And as I was doing a demo scene for a blog post, I noticed that a mesh light on my test object was wrecking the shadow catcher. It's a bit strange that a geometry light was wrecking the scene in my blog test scene, but the mesh light in the other test scene did not. Perhaps it has to do with the positioning and shape of the mesh light. In mt blog test scene, it's a cylinder, and is inset into other geometry a bit. Perhaps that's causing the ground plane to be picking up a big cast shadow from the geometry that is blocking the cylinder light?

Here's the blend file of the scene with the green sphere

I did a couple tests to see if I had any problems in the alpha channel.

I like it so far! Simple to set up, very nice to see in the viewport, and a bit faster and easier to use in compositing. Great work! Looking forward to seeing how it continues to develop.

Thanks for the add! This sounds great!

I understand the issues now, I think. Seems odd to me that there's no way to stabilize the scale without a pivot point, but I'm not a coder, so not sure how much advice I can give on how best to make this work.

Ah, okay, I see. That definitely makes a difference. Indeed it does work. There's still a slight problem that when Zoom is enabled, in my 2 point example, the image drifts upwards. I made a quick video to demonstrate.

What would be absolutely amazing is if once you selected Image Sequence or Movie, the node gave you a little visual timeline to adjust the in/out, placement, and length of the clip.

How does this work? I'd love to test this. Where is the feature found?

Gave it a quick test run this morning, seems to work great! Only tried it with a couple things, so I will explore it a bit more soon. But wow, what a great feature! Thank you guys!

Awesome thank you!

Windows, please. This is one of the most needed features in the compositor. :) Very exciting!

Spectacular! Will this be in buildbot to test in the next day or so?

In D1591#36626, @Campbell Barton (campbellbarton) wrote:

No strong opinion on this, if users find useful - seems OK?

In D1579#35041, @Marcelo Mutzbauer (1xundoredo) wrote:

@Sean Kennedy (hype) Thank you for the report. Mask points are parented individually. The solution I found was to check whether both neighbor points have the same parent. If they do, the new point is also going to be parented to the same track/plane. If they don't the new point won't be parented at all. Does that look like a good solution?

In D1579#34889, @Marcelo Mutzbauer (1xundoredo) wrote:

@Sean Kennedy (hype) Here you are(this is a 64-bit build):

blender_cut_spline_winx64.zip78 MBDownload

Works great so far Thank you

Is this in the daily builds? I'm not seeing it yet.

This is great! Thank you!!

I would love to test this out. Is there a way to get a windows build (I don't compile)?

In D1257#24044, @Sebastian Koenig (sebastian_k) wrote:

Thanks a lot for making a patch out of this! :)
I tested briefly and would propose a few changes:

1. It seems a bit overkill to have different colors for spline and overlay. Wouldn't it be enough to have one color for both, and the alpha which applies only to the color overlay?

1a. Or actually, maybe just keep the current way of coloring when in outline mode, only when line display is changed to "line" (that other patch i believe?) use the mask color for the spline.

2. Maybe it would be possible to change the blending? If I have several masklayers with the same color, I think it would be better to just merge them instead of alphaovering their values. Only if the colors are different, use alpha blending.
3. Feathering should use the colors as well.

What do the others think? @Sean Kennedy (hype)?
:)

Awesome!

Sometimes there are stray beams coming in from something not apparent in the input image.