I see this is closed, but i still see this behavior. Feel it should be executed globally or give the user the option to only do this on object level. If users a tought properly to name a scene, then we also need to be able to properly sort a scene.

I think the presets are handy and will make it easier for newcomers.

Why isnt this update now? Its now even worse, the icons show all the same when checking draw brushes

Okay sounds reasonable. But feels strange having it for one but not the other. The menu's are faster than scrolling to the top and find it. This again makes things more difficult vs 2.79

In rBe388cd8bb4b5dd309de0e603e529ee99348e3b19#234889, @Alessio Monti di Sopra (a.monti) wrote:

Hey, thanks for committing this!
Maybe it would be better to keep out the outliner part though, until someone manage to give it a look and to make it work properly.

I also run into this issue today. Tried everything within my knowledge but it wont work. SIngle bake does work , but thats not useful with multiple items. How did they do the open movie projects without this?!?!?

Okay, but what is the difference with "none" compared to the others? When its set to None it acts the same as the other methods, so not sure what it should do then? It looks like None will use the prior chosen one, which makes it a bit weird as a setting. I would think None is as in 2d, like the old method.

As a note, this build 2.80 (sub 72), 9bae9b634ec6, 2019-05-28 21:07 now has this fixed. I dont see those OT "errors" in the menu

Yeah i had it working couple days after this submit. I wanted to make a revamp of the renderlayers and how it looked the old way. I miss that panel and find doing this in the top right more tedious than how it was. Yet i could not find info at that time how i could get the data needed from the viewlayers.

I still see this happening in 2.80, edbf15d3c044, master, 2018-11-28, also like @Jose L. Carmelo (Jose) C. noted earlier, deleting the Collection from the object panel also delete the mesh, which makes no sense.

I tried a different build but it shows the same hash code, so cant tell yet if it works
2.80 (sub 60), branch: blender2.7, commit date: 2019-05-07 19:17, hash: rB3dc9da3a74ee

I did, but last build is from may 7th???
2.80 (sub 60), branch: blender2.7, commit date: 2019-05-07 19:17, hash: rB3dc9da3a74ee

I did some searching and i guess this is somehow hardcoded. THe only thing i can find for the quick favorites is "SCREEN_MT_user_menu". This is in 2 files, i can find the operator though, so probably that is hardcoded. Yet i wonder where all this data is stored.

I just downloaded this build; 2.80 (sub 60), branch: blender2.7, commit date: 2019-05-07 19:17, hash: rB3dc9da3a74ee
I still dont see it act like 2.79. When the option menu is long like export obj. All it does is fold when i drag it far enough to the bottom.

Then i find it indeed a clumsy method as well. It should overrule the tool i think

In T58392#646842, @Clément Foucault (fclem) wrote:

@Rombout Versluijs (rombout) this build is 4 months old. Try the latest one.

Was that reverted in an update after last Monday?

Should i add it to rightclickselect or is big post enough?

Well undo is not an solution to this. I'll make a request than.

Thats not exactly true, im talking about the outliner when you hover over eye icon. This is in the build from yesterday (monday 06-05-2019) See below

Sweet from X 😁

Yes, hardly visible due to the blunt Axis colors. But it seems to work.

I used this one, edbf15d3c044, master, 2018-11-28, from Blender and seems to work fine now :)

I still dont see a difference with this build, edbf15d3c044, master, 2018-11-28, on osx 10.11.6

My guess is that the default none. For me it works when i choose front or back. Perhaps this is the issue, the old version had only 2 options, this now has basically 3.

According to new design method, it should have sub-panels like Preferences.

Its showing now in this version, 2.80 (sub 45), 779860d34e26, 2019-02-22 22:26

PS i just noticed that the space_topbar.py has "layout.operator_context = 'INVOKE_AREA'"
This also works, ill keep that just to be safe. Didnt get an error using either one.

I do think its good to still have this. Since 2.80 is way more hardware hungry i think this could lower that a bit. I see a major drop in the viewport response on my macbook pro 2015 using 2.80 where 2.79 runs smooth

In T59789#600614, @Brecht Van Lommel (brecht) wrote:

Yes. I was thinking of making the region dynamically sized based on the contents. But unfortunately it's more complicated than that because the tabs are part of the same region, so we have a kind of non-rectangular region.

okay thanks. I will read up on that see how that works.

@nBurn (nBurn)
AH okay thanks, i just noticed someone else is also doing updates there. They even did updates yesterday, luckily to the parts i still need to do. I tackles some other parts like unsimplify and a lot in the color adjustment and other files.

Im bumping this one, just checked build 2.80 #957v4547aeeb, 2019-01-18 22:11. Its still doing nothing

Isnt it possible to calculate the total height of all panels in this view. Than if the height of the total is height than the window height, why not ONLY than activate the scrolling mechanism. Because when the panel isnt transparent or blocked by open panels, it would not be able to move the scene anyways.

I noticed that it also happens when you switch from blender to another application and come back. This is really annoying to work with, say when your texture painting. The first stroke will always be a continuous stroke

It also happens when you open preferences and already have done the first click. Looks like it happens to each new window all the time.

I think the issue perhaps has something to do with the splash screen. When you start blender the first click gets rid of the splash screen. Than i dont see this issue, but once blender is open and i do CMD + N or load a scene my first click results in what seems a stuck operator or modal mode or so

I want to bump this thread, still is present in 2.80, d844271aef2d, 2019-01-15, 19:24

Cant the tabs get a seperate area they already seem sort of separate because ui is rotated there. Im not sure how this part work in GUI

I see perhaps the cause now. If i change MultiSample under Preferences > General > OpenCL > MultiSampling from None to 2 or more it gets less noticeable.
But still shows very faint,.

I dont have supported GPU, nothing to update. See first post for Hardware. Its an Intel Iris Pro.

Not sure what paper cut has to do with functional design???

Here is a file

Its actually both, it doesnt work because features have been changed.

Great work!

In D4148#94496, @Christopher Anderssarian (Christopher_Anderssarian) wrote:

Are the state of the panels and subpanels going to be saved?
It gets cumbersome digging through when starting Blender and opening blend files.

In rBa77b63c56943ebd0046f738e6abbea4c85dc65b6#213112, @Mohamed El Hamd (elbox01) wrote:

@Rombout Versluijs (rombout)
In fact you can hide that left menu, just drag the edge to the left.

I understand the think and do think it almost a good approach. However some aspects in your comments now also raise new issues.

In rBa77b63c56943ebd0046f738e6abbea4c85dc65b6#212933, @voxel9 wrote:

@Rombout Versluijs (rombout)
Click and drag from bottom to top over sub-panel names to open quickly all the sub-panels in a panel. Click and drag from top to bottom to close the sub-panels. It works fine once you learn where to look for something. I'm missing though a global search in Preferences ...
@Julian Eisel (Severin)
The Themes panel is still using "Node Editor" and the old icon for sub-panel title instead of "Shader Editor" as its Editor Type counterpart.

Yes i see, the function which calculates if it should go above or below seems not to be working properly. Looks like it doesnt add the border height of the window. Or other guess, it looks at a given midline in the window everything above goes above this line and visa versa.

I think renaming Keymap to Shortcuts would make also more sense. Since you also changing names and making categories and making more sense in general. I believe shortcuts is more explanatory than Keymap, i think 90% would even know what it stands for

One small issue i noticed with the color picker in this new pref panel layout. When it need to show at the top it sometimes shows when the space isnt high enough. Therefor the top of the picker doesnt show unless we scroll back up a bit.

Sorry guys no love for this new panel and sub panel layout. It makes working on settings horrible.

I was checking the presets files and noticed in the #60b930af3e73 the presets have the new values. Yet they dont have the setting "setting.bending_model"

After adjust "presets.py" in startup > operators > presets.py presets now save without errors.

PS is there a reason why top menu doesnt show Python info?

Okay done, https://developer.blender.org/T59832

Here's a screengrab to show the issue

That why i stated it technically not a bug. But adding this to a forum will not get proper feedback. The Top bar acts different in a couple ways.

Sorry but i also stated a new issue where X and Y axis will show as Z axis. Did you see the GIF screengrab?

Today it seemed to be working different than yesterday. Now it does some how turn off but it also show when turning on Y-axis in Front Ortho. Also when in Right Ortho the X-axis will show the Z-axis.

After doing more seaches i found this thread on BA, https://blenderartists.org/t/access-to-workspace-areas/1137024/4

Great i see something like my initial proposal is done to the layout, much better!

To bad this isnt picked up for 1.80

Okay clear now

Did i add a wrong tag to this? I see BF Blender: 2.8 is removed. I cant recall if added tags here