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This project includes the graph editor, dopespheet editor, NLA editor, keyframes, drivers, constraints, and more.

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Brecht Van Lommel (brecht) closed T73932: Showstopper: 2nd keyframe for image sequences can't be set in compositing as Resolved by committing rBf0a22f5dd085: Fix T73932: modifying keyframes in nodes fails when there is an image sequence.
Wed, Feb 19, 6:14 PM · Compositing, Animation & Rigging, BF Blender
abraham castilla (Abraham) added a comment to T73989: Bone constraints target misses eyedropper for subtarget bones.

Ok, I will comment in Right click select.
thank's Philipp

Wed, Feb 19, 6:12 PM · Animation & Rigging, BF Blender
Philipp Oeser (lichtwerk) renamed T73989: Bone constraints target misses eyedropper for subtarget bones from Bone constraints dropdown to Bone constraints target misses eyedropper for subtarget bones.
Wed, Feb 19, 3:57 PM · Animation & Rigging, BF Blender
Philipp Oeser (lichtwerk) added a comment to T73989: Bone constraints target misses eyedropper for subtarget bones.

Thx for getting back.

Wed, Feb 19, 3:56 PM · Animation & Rigging, BF Blender
abraham castilla (Abraham) added a comment to T73989: Bone constraints target misses eyedropper for subtarget bones.

Hi Philipp, thanks for your attention.
In a Target select drop not include bone in the selection, and in a Bone selection not exist drop.

Wed, Feb 19, 3:32 PM · Animation & Rigging, BF Blender
Philipp Oeser (lichtwerk) renamed T73989: Bone constraints target misses eyedropper for subtarget bones from constrains bones drop and multyselector to Bone constraints dropdown.
Wed, Feb 19, 11:58 AM · Animation & Rigging, BF Blender
Philipp Oeser (lichtwerk) changed the status of T73989: Bone constraints target misses eyedropper for subtarget bones from Needs Triage to Needs Information from User.

1--In the options of the bone constrains, the drop only selects the armature, and the bone must be searched among the list of bones. No exist drop selector bone.
1-- create armature and add constraint in a bone / use drop for select a bone / object armature is select and not exist drop for select a bone

Wed, Feb 19, 11:56 AM · Animation & Rigging, BF Blender
Sergey Sharybin (sergey) added a comment to T73593: Drivers on hide_viewport and hide_render are unreliable, and throw warnings on linked-but-not-proxied objects..

Please stay away from atomics in RNA. There is indeed some overhead in RNA system, but it does not affect how scalable code is with the number of threads. Once you add atomic the scalability goes to nothing.

Wed, Feb 19, 11:08 AM · Animation & Rigging, Blender Studio, BF Blender
Julien Blervaque (werwack) added a comment to T70319: Library Override: Driven Shape Keys Don't Work (neither via custom properties nor transforms).

Hello everybody
We are starting a production and we just bumped into that issue. Looks like it is a major issue for us. Any chance to address it soon?
Thank you very much

Wed, Feb 19, 10:38 AM · Animation & Rigging, Datablocks and Libraries, BF Blender
Brecht Van Lommel (brecht) added a comment to T73593: Drivers on hide_viewport and hide_render are unreliable, and throw warnings on linked-but-not-proxied objects..

I expect it can improve performance slightly in production (but not enough to really matter). There is overhead to having more depsgraph nodes and relations. The only way you would have that many drivers on an ID in practice is bones, and we can group those together (and also have to for drivers to work between bones at all).

Wed, Feb 19, 10:28 AM · Animation & Rigging, Blender Studio, BF Blender
Bastien Montagne (mont29) added a comment to T73593: Drivers on hide_viewport and hide_render are unreliable, and throw warnings on linked-but-not-proxied objects..

Not sure performances is a real issue here (atomics are slower, yes, but RNA also adds a fair amount of overhead, and all in all, I think I’d expect being able to evaluate tens of drivers/animation curves in parallel, even if those involve some atomic ops, would bee far more efficient than evaluating all of them in a single thread, without atomic ops at all).

Wed, Feb 19, 10:13 AM · Animation & Rigging, Blender Studio, BF Blender
Christoph Werner (Taros) added a comment to T73932: Showstopper: 2nd keyframe for image sequences can't be set in compositing.

Note @Christoph Werner (Taros) & @Fahad Hasan (cgvirus) : As a non-optimal work around in the meantime, you can keyframe the second frame with the same value, and adjust it to the desired value using the sliders in the dopesheet and the sliders and sidebar in the graph editor. That is if you really want to still use 2.82 or 2.83 before this is fixed.

Wed, Feb 19, 10:03 AM · Compositing, Animation & Rigging, BF Blender
Campbell Barton (campbellbarton) renamed T73980: Armature Symmetrize support for 'connected' bones from Symmetrize support for 'connected' bones to Armature Symmetrize support for 'connected' bones.
Wed, Feb 19, 5:37 AM · Animation & Rigging, BF Blender
Campbell Barton (campbellbarton) renamed T73980: Armature Symmetrize support for 'connected' bones from Armature: Symmetrize operator mishandles parenting if a bones root will be the same on the mirrored side to Symmetrize support for 'connected' bones.
Wed, Feb 19, 5:36 AM · Animation & Rigging, BF Blender
Campbell Barton (campbellbarton) updated the task description for T63901: Animation & Rigging Module.
Wed, Feb 19, 5:35 AM · Animation & Rigging, BF Blender
Campbell Barton (campbellbarton) updated the task description for T63901: Animation & Rigging Module.
Wed, Feb 19, 5:35 AM · Animation & Rigging, BF Blender
Evan Wilson (EAW) added a comment to T73932: Showstopper: 2nd keyframe for image sequences can't be set in compositing.

Note @Christoph Werner (Taros) & @Fahad Hasan (cgvirus) : As a non-optimal work around in the meantime, you can keyframe the second frame with the same value, and adjust it to the desired value using the sliders in the dopesheet and the sliders and sidebar in the graph editor. That is if you really want to still use 2.82 or 2.83 before this is fixed.

Wed, Feb 19, 1:39 AM · Compositing, Animation & Rigging, BF Blender

Tue, Feb 18

William Reynish (billreynish) merged T73991: Keyframe doesn't update in compositor node into T73932: Showstopper: 2nd keyframe for image sequences can't be set in compositing.
Tue, Feb 18, 10:54 PM · Compositing, Animation & Rigging, BF Blender
Brecht Van Lommel (brecht) added a comment to T73593: Drivers on hide_viewport and hide_render are unreliable, and throw warnings on linked-but-not-proxied objects..

I extended my comment above a bit, to explain why I think this is the wrong level to add thread safety.

Tue, Feb 18, 7:51 PM · Animation & Rigging, Blender Studio, BF Blender
Bastien Montagne (mont29) added a comment to T73593: Drivers on hide_viewport and hide_render are unreliable, and throw warnings on linked-but-not-proxied objects..

@Brecht Van Lommel (brecht) issue with bitflags in RNA is that from RNA side they look like different properties, but they actually affect the exact same value. So idea would be that default RNA setter would set those bitflags with atomic operations yes...

Tue, Feb 18, 7:41 PM · Animation & Rigging, Blender Studio, BF Blender
Brecht Van Lommel (brecht) added a comment to T73593: Drivers on hide_viewport and hide_render are unreliable, and throw warnings on linked-but-not-proxied objects..

I'm not sure what it means to make the RNA access atomic, how would that be implemented, manually for each property? If so, there are many of them and taking that into account for every new property sounds fragile. I'm also not sure to what extent writing a char or short could conflict with an adjacent variable.

Tue, Feb 18, 7:18 PM · Animation & Rigging, Blender Studio, BF Blender
Sybren A. Stüvel (sybren) updated subscribers of T73593: Drivers on hide_viewport and hide_render are unreliable, and throw warnings on linked-but-not-proxied objects..

After looking into this with @Sybren A. Stüvel (sybren), we think the random failures are most likely due to a threading issue

Tue, Feb 18, 6:36 PM · Animation & Rigging, Blender Studio, BF Blender
Sybren A. Stüvel (sybren) added a comment to T73932: Showstopper: 2nd keyframe for image sequences can't be set in compositing.

@ Dani Fraudling (El_Fraudo) please leave the task assignment to the developers '-)

Tue, Feb 18, 6:29 PM · Compositing, Animation & Rigging, BF Blender
Dani Fraudling (El_Fraudo) reassigned T73932: Showstopper: 2nd keyframe for image sequences can't be set in compositing from Antonio Vazquez (antoniov) to Brecht Van Lommel (brecht).

Whoops. I hereby re-assign Brecht as assigned.

Tue, Feb 18, 6:26 PM · Compositing, Animation & Rigging, BF Blender
Dani Fraudling (El_Fraudo) reassigned T73932: Showstopper: 2nd keyframe for image sequences can't be set in compositing from Brecht Van Lommel (brecht) to Antonio Vazquez (antoniov).

I hereby remove Antonio Vazquez as assigned.

Tue, Feb 18, 6:21 PM · Compositing, Animation & Rigging, BF Blender
Brecht Van Lommel (brecht) updated subscribers of T73932: Showstopper: 2nd keyframe for image sequences can't be set in compositing.
Tue, Feb 18, 5:41 PM · Compositing, Animation & Rigging, BF Blender
Brecht Van Lommel (brecht) claimed T73932: Showstopper: 2nd keyframe for image sequences can't be set in compositing.
Tue, Feb 18, 5:41 PM · Compositing, Animation & Rigging, BF Blender
Dani Fraudling (El_Fraudo) assigned T73932: Showstopper: 2nd keyframe for image sequences can't be set in compositing to Antonio Vazquez (antoniov).
Tue, Feb 18, 4:26 PM · Compositing, Animation & Rigging, BF Blender
Brecht Van Lommel (brecht) updated subscribers of T73593: Drivers on hide_viewport and hide_render are unreliable, and throw warnings on linked-but-not-proxied objects..

The random failures are most likely due to a threading issue, where two threads are evaluating the viewport and render visibility driver for the same object in parallel. These two properties are stored as bitflags on the same integer, so writing to them at the same time is not thread-safe.

Tue, Feb 18, 3:26 PM · Animation & Rigging, Blender Studio, BF Blender
Sybren A. Stüvel (sybren) renamed T73593: Drivers on hide_viewport and hide_render are unreliable, and throw warnings on linked-but-not-proxied objects. from Drivers on hide_viewport and hide_render are unreliable, and throw warnings on proxies. to Drivers on hide_viewport and hide_render are unreliable, and throw warnings on linked-but-not-proxied objects..
Tue, Feb 18, 3:06 PM · Animation & Rigging, Blender Studio, BF Blender
Clément Foucault (fclem) closed T73227: Bone selection malfunction in Pose mode with X-Ray + In Front display as Resolved.

Fixed by rB9491e7d7c218

Tue, Feb 18, 2:52 PM · EEVEE & Viewport, Animation & Rigging, BF Blender
Dalai Felinto (dfelinto) updated the task description for T63901: Animation & Rigging Module.
Tue, Feb 18, 2:43 PM · Animation & Rigging, BF Blender
Demeter Dzadik (Mets) added a comment to T73593: Drivers on hide_viewport and hide_render are unreliable, and throw warnings on linked-but-not-proxied objects..

Here is a fairly simplified file and video:



I didn't want to simplify it too much further since it feels like there is a correlation between scene complexity and how easy it is to reproduce the bug. (the more complex the scene, the more often the bug occurs) - even at this level of complexity, it seems that changing the values "fast"(multiple times per second) is necessary to trigger the bug.

Tue, Feb 18, 2:31 PM · Animation & Rigging, Blender Studio, BF Blender
Sybren A. Stüvel (sybren) added a comment to T73593: Drivers on hide_viewport and hide_render are unreliable, and throw warnings on linked-but-not-proxied objects..

When the armature is not a proxy, the issue is still present, but the above warning is not.

Tue, Feb 18, 1:56 PM · Animation & Rigging, Blender Studio, BF Blender
Sybren A. Stüvel (sybren) closed T73933: Unexpected Translation from the Copy Location Constraint with differing coordinate spaces in 2.82 as Invalid.

This is the result of 7728bfd4c45c634ba6b62e149176425ec5779945, which is mentioned in the release notes of 2.82. What you see is some special behaviour that was introduced but never documented, and caused confusion. Of course removing that special behaviour causes confusion as well ;-)

Tue, Feb 18, 12:08 PM · Animation & Rigging, BF Blender
Sybren A. Stüvel (sybren) changed the subtype of T73933: Unexpected Translation from the Copy Location Constraint with differing coordinate spaces in 2.82 from "Report" to "Bug".
Tue, Feb 18, 11:33 AM · Animation & Rigging, BF Blender
Sybren A. Stüvel (sybren) claimed T73933: Unexpected Translation from the Copy Location Constraint with differing coordinate spaces in 2.82.
Tue, Feb 18, 11:33 AM · Animation & Rigging, BF Blender
Sybren A. Stüvel (sybren) moved T73932: Showstopper: 2nd keyframe for image sequences can't be set in compositing from Backlog to Bugs on the Animation & Rigging board.
Tue, Feb 18, 11:29 AM · Compositing, Animation & Rigging, BF Blender
Sybren A. Stüvel (sybren) placed T73932: Showstopper: 2nd keyframe for image sequences can't be set in compositing up for grabs.
Tue, Feb 18, 11:21 AM · Compositing, Animation & Rigging, BF Blender
Sybren A. Stüvel (sybren) updated subscribers of T73932: Showstopper: 2nd keyframe for image sequences can't be set in compositing.
Tue, Feb 18, 11:21 AM · Compositing, Animation & Rigging, BF Blender
Sybren A. Stüvel (sybren) added a comment to T73932: Showstopper: 2nd keyframe for image sequences can't be set in compositing.

A bisect shows that this was caused by rB5d36a2e587590515fb38b4dee71f49b47a339178.

Tue, Feb 18, 11:20 AM · Compositing, Animation & Rigging, BF Blender
Richard Antalik (ISS) changed the status of T73933: Unexpected Translation from the Copy Location Constraint with differing coordinate spaces in 2.82 from Needs Triage to Confirmed.
Tue, Feb 18, 11:05 AM · Animation & Rigging, BF Blender
Sybren A. Stüvel (sybren) claimed T73932: Showstopper: 2nd keyframe for image sequences can't be set in compositing.
Tue, Feb 18, 10:40 AM · Compositing, Animation & Rigging, BF Blender
Stanislav Ovcharov (Stan1) updated the task description for T71238: Stacked mode for F-curves in Graph editor..
Tue, Feb 18, 6:34 AM · Animation & Rigging
Stanislav Ovcharov (Stan1) added a comment to T71238: Stacked mode for F-curves in Graph editor..

@Luciano Muñoz Sessarego (looch) Yep. That was kind of misunderstanding, I definitely meant disappearing when I said - "delete channels from stacked mode".
Yes. your example is great and it should work like this.

Tue, Feb 18, 6:07 AM · Animation & Rigging

Mon, Feb 17

Luciano Muñoz Sessarego (looch) added a comment to T71238: Stacked mode for F-curves in Graph editor..

as much as i dont like using other software as example making a mockup would take too long:

Mon, Feb 17, 9:57 PM · Animation & Rigging
William Reynish (billreynish) updated the task description for T68973: Animation channels list UI.
Mon, Feb 17, 9:51 PM · User Interface, Animation & Rigging, BF Blender
Luciano Muñoz Sessarego (looch) added a comment to T68973: Animation channels list UI.

yes i understand that loud and clear, BUT i've been using it as a replacement of the other one, the whole point if to be able to modify one curve at a time, which it does.
as i said, its almos there, its not the same, but the way it works its the same just graying out the other curves instead of not showing them.
the functionality is there.

Mon, Feb 17, 9:39 PM · User Interface, Animation & Rigging, BF Blender
William Reynish (billreynish) added a comment to T68973: Animation channels list UI.

@Luciano Muñoz Sessarego (looch) That option only shows the *keyframes* rather than the F-curves entirely.

Mon, Feb 17, 9:32 PM · User Interface, Animation & Rigging, BF Blender
Christoph Werner (Taros) added a comment to T73932: Showstopper: 2nd keyframe for image sequences can't be set in compositing.

Seems to be related to Image sequences, single images work fine.

Mon, Feb 17, 8:38 PM · Compositing, Animation & Rigging, BF Blender