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Nicholas Rishel (nicholas_rishel) added a comment to T87499: Windows pen input design.

The no hacks solution is what was rolled back; the prevalence of devices with issues is unclear.

Thu, Apr 15, 3:39 AM · Platform: Windows, Grease Pencil, Sculpt, Paint & Texture
Joseph Eagar (joeedh) added a comment to T87501: Pen input UI/UX issues.

Circle select doesn't support resizing either. Also, I think we should have a system for custom pressure curves (like Krita does).

Thu, Apr 15, 1:31 AM · Grease Pencil, Sculpt, Paint & Texture
Vyacheslav (hitrpr) added a comment to T87406: Grease pencil. Stroke color do not match to object`s color.

@Antonio Vazquez (antoniov) Thanks for sharing your time for this :)

Thu, Apr 15, 1:15 AM · Grease Pencil, BF Blender

Yesterday

Pablo Dobarro (pablodp606) added a comment to T87499: Windows pen input design.

If the no hacks solution for wintab implies further issues with a minority of devices and drivers, I would go with that. Better having the most commonly used devices working as expected that all the devices half working. Also, with a list of supported devices/drivers at least we can point people at hardware setups that we know they properly work and are supported.
This will also allow us to include other pen based features (like tilt support) in a more predictable way across all platforms.

Wed, Apr 14, 9:11 PM · Platform: Windows, Grease Pencil, Sculpt, Paint & Texture
Ray molenkamp (LazyDodo) added a comment to T87499: Windows pen input design.

From what i got from @Antonio Vazquez (antoniov) is that "switching to windows ink for some studio's just is not an option" so I guess we have to support wintab in one form or another

Wed, Apr 14, 8:43 PM · Platform: Windows, Grease Pencil, Sculpt, Paint & Texture
Daniel Martinez Lara (pepeland) added a comment to T87499: Windows pen input design.

Yes, the problem is really noticeable with brushes with a small size.
From the Grease Point side this issue is one of the most important problem for medium-big 2D animation studios to adopt
GP for the final art in production. Is a recurring feedback report.

Wed, Apr 14, 8:38 PM · Platform: Windows, Grease Pencil, Sculpt, Paint & Texture
Nicholas Rishel (nicholas_rishel) added a project to T87499: Windows pen input design: Platform: Windows.
Wed, Apr 14, 8:34 PM · Platform: Windows, Grease Pencil, Sculpt, Paint & Texture
Nicholas Rishel (nicholas_rishel) updated subscribers of T87499: Windows pen input design.

Quick outline of the mouse/Wintab/WinInk situation.

Wed, Apr 14, 8:31 PM · Platform: Windows, Grease Pencil, Sculpt, Paint & Texture
Pablo Dobarro (pablodp606) created T87501: Pen input UI/UX issues.
Wed, Apr 14, 7:51 PM · Grease Pencil, Sculpt, Paint & Texture
Pablo Dobarro (pablodp606) added a comment to T87499: Windows pen input design.

In case of sculpt mode, it uses the same input code as the rest of the painting modes (vertex, weights...). This code just interpolates the positions between two regular mouse events to fill the space with a fixed spacing. For brushes that are usually used with a small size (all cutting and clay brushes), the artifacts are really noticeable. These jagged line artifices is probably what some users identify with "performance issues", while it is just the input code missing the events.

Wed, Apr 14, 7:27 PM · Platform: Windows, Grease Pencil, Sculpt, Paint & Texture
Antonio Vazquez (antoniov) added a comment to T87499: Windows pen input design.

With grease pencil I had to add a lot of algorithms to "guess" what is missing and figure out what points are missing. This algorithm reduces the problems, but it kills some of the small movements done by artists. The goal is to remove all these algorithms and get the real information of the pen movements.

Wed, Apr 14, 7:22 PM · Platform: Windows, Grease Pencil, Sculpt, Paint & Texture
Ray molenkamp (LazyDodo) added a comment to T87499: Windows pen input design.

Think at one point in time @Nicholas Rishel (nicholas_rishel) had a patch for this, that got reverted for "reasons" (that escape me completely at this moment) and we were planning to bring back for 3.0 ?

Wed, Apr 14, 7:18 PM · Platform: Windows, Grease Pencil, Sculpt, Paint & Texture
Antonio Vazquez (antoniov) updated subscribers of T87499: Windows pen input design.

@Daniel Martinez Lara (pepeland) Please, put all the results of your tests in this task.

Wed, Apr 14, 7:15 PM · Platform: Windows, Grease Pencil, Sculpt, Paint & Texture
Ray molenkamp (LazyDodo) updated subscribers of T87499: Windows pen input design.
Wed, Apr 14, 7:15 PM · Platform: Windows, Grease Pencil, Sculpt, Paint & Texture
Antonio Vazquez (antoniov) added a comment to T87499: Windows pen input design.

This is related to D7840

Wed, Apr 14, 7:15 PM · Platform: Windows, Grease Pencil, Sculpt, Paint & Texture
Pablo Dobarro (pablodp606) created T87499: Windows pen input design.
Wed, Apr 14, 7:15 PM · Platform: Windows, Grease Pencil, Sculpt, Paint & Texture
Antonio Vazquez (antoniov) closed T87406: Grease pencil. Stroke color do not match to object`s color as Resolved by committing rB7c18fb062d36: Fix T87406: Stroke color when using object color mode.
Wed, Apr 14, 7:01 PM · Grease Pencil, BF Blender
Antonio Vazquez (antoniov) added a comment to T87406: Grease pencil. Stroke color do not match to object`s color.

The gpencil team has been discussing about this problem and we have decide to swap the coloring change to fill, so in you case the stroke will have the same color you select. Also, we keep the patch done by @Falk David (filedescriptor) to set flat color.

Wed, Apr 14, 6:58 PM · Grease Pencil, BF Blender
Mirko Giannarelli (WeirdUnix) removed a watcher for Grease Pencil: Mirko Giannarelli (WeirdUnix).
Wed, Apr 14, 5:57 PM
Antonio Vazquez (antoniov) closed D10614: Minor UI: 2D Animation: Fix Labelling issue within the 'Cursor' dropdown.
Wed, Apr 14, 5:57 PM · User Interface, Grease Pencil
Germano Cavalcante (mano-wii) added a project to T86342: (Delayed) Laggy Viewport, and slow Grease Pencil undo (Resolved on restart, then gets worse again): Grease Pencil.

It looks like a duplicate of T87147: Blender increases ram usage until its too laggy to use after a few minutes of use. , but I'm also not sure how to replicate the problem.

Wed, Apr 14, 5:43 PM · Grease Pencil, BF Blender
Antonio Vazquez (antoniov) accepted D10614: Minor UI: 2D Animation: Fix Labelling issue within the 'Cursor' dropdown.
Wed, Apr 14, 5:38 PM · User Interface, Grease Pencil
Hans Goudey (HooglyBoogly) accepted D10614: Minor UI: 2D Animation: Fix Labelling issue within the 'Cursor' dropdown.
Wed, Apr 14, 5:27 PM · User Interface, Grease Pencil
Antonio Vazquez (antoniov) added a reviewer for D10614: Minor UI: 2D Animation: Fix Labelling issue within the 'Cursor' dropdown: Grease Pencil.
Wed, Apr 14, 4:51 PM · User Interface, Grease Pencil
Kevin (jack.herbert) added a comment to T78795: GPencil: Texture Image Alpha pass through grease pencil strokes.

I found a slightly better workaround for the anti-aliasing issue. If you put the Gpencil objects and 3d objects on two different View Layers then put them back together in the compositor with a Z Combine node (enable Use Alpha and disable Anti-Alias Z), you will still need to set EEVEE's filter size to 0, but you can keep the Grease Pencial anti-aliasing on. So not perfect but in some cases it might be enough.

Wed, Apr 14, 12:49 PM · Grease Pencil, BF Blender
Falk David (filedescriptor) closed T87479: Grease Pencil As SVG export corrupt as Resolved by committing rB9ca55b10b8cc: Fix T87479: GPencil SVG export outside of camera.
Wed, Apr 14, 10:14 AM · Grease Pencil, BF Blender
Falk David (filedescriptor) added a revision to T87479: Grease Pencil As SVG export corrupt: D10975: Fix T87479: GPencil SVG export outside of camera.
Wed, Apr 14, 10:03 AM · Grease Pencil, BF Blender
Falk David (filedescriptor) added a comment to T87479: Grease Pencil As SVG export corrupt.

@Antonio Vazquez (antoniov) yes, I have already debugged the issue. I think selected_objects_boundbox_calc is called before any call to create_object_list. So the list of selected objects is empty.
I have a fix ready.

Wed, Apr 14, 9:58 AM · Grease Pencil, BF Blender
Antonio Vazquez (antoniov) added a comment to T87479: Grease Pencil As SVG export corrupt.

do you have a test file?

Wed, Apr 14, 9:52 AM · Grease Pencil, BF Blender
Antonio Vazquez (antoniov) added a comment to T87479: Grease Pencil As SVG export corrupt.

Outside camera view must use a rectangle with boundbox. Check the boundboux is propertly calculated.

Wed, Apr 14, 9:52 AM · Grease Pencil, BF Blender
Falk David (filedescriptor) changed the status of T87479: Grease Pencil As SVG export corrupt from Needs Triage to Confirmed.

I can confirm this. This is happening when exporting from outside the camera view.
If something is going wrong, there should be at least some error or message pop-up, so I would see this as a bug.

Wed, Apr 14, 9:36 AM · Grease Pencil, BF Blender
Adrian Th (adrianth) added a comment to T78795: GPencil: Texture Image Alpha pass through grease pencil strokes.

I agree with Kevin'g comment above - this issue seems like a pretty serious limitation, as the one significant competitive advantage Blender Grease Pencil has over 2D animation software is the ability to combine 3D elements in a 2D scene; using textured 3D meshes with alpha transparency is a very powerful tool. I understand if this issue is not high priority and might not get fixed in the near future, but in my opinion it should not be classified as known limitation. Please let me know if I'm missing something. I would appreciate if someone from the dev team can post a point of view on this.

Wed, Apr 14, 5:18 AM · Grease Pencil, BF Blender
Paul Kotelevets (1D_Inc) added a comment to T87406: Grease pencil. Stroke color do not match to object`s color.

It looks like this issue is about general 2d animation vs general consistency.
Technicaly, reasons to provide the difference between stroke and fill are inderstandable, but realization is rough because is illogical and unexpected.
There are a lot of things in Blender that can be technically solved as local overrides, but following this way is not the best way to design software, because harms general consistency.

Wed, Apr 14, 2:04 AM · Grease Pencil, BF Blender

Tue, Apr 13

Falk David (filedescriptor) changed the status of T87461: Grease Pencil: Stroke subdivide doesn't work correctly on closed shapes from Resolved to Archived.

ok. Closing.

Tue, Apr 13, 10:53 PM · Grease Pencil, BF Blender
Germano Cavalcante (mano-wii) merged T87366: Grease pencil objects always rendered on top of "image as plane" object into T78795: GPencil: Texture Image Alpha pass through grease pencil strokes.
Tue, Apr 13, 9:28 PM · Grease Pencil, BF Blender
Tomasz Kaye (bitbutter) placed T87461: Grease Pencil: Stroke subdivide doesn't work correctly on closed shapes up for grabs.
Tue, Apr 13, 8:08 PM · Grease Pencil, BF Blender
Tomasz Kaye (bitbutter) closed T87461: Grease Pencil: Stroke subdivide doesn't work correctly on closed shapes as Resolved.

thanks! works as expected in the newest alpha

Tue, Apr 13, 8:08 PM · Grease Pencil, BF Blender
Falk David (filedescriptor) changed the status of T87461: Grease Pencil: Stroke subdivide doesn't work correctly on closed shapes from Needs Triage to Needs Information from User.

Yes, this should be fixed by rB09d7d88cc42a. @Tomasz Kaye (bitbutter) Please try the latest Alpha from https://builder.blender.org/download/ .

Tue, Apr 13, 2:00 PM · Grease Pencil, BF Blender
Antonio Vazquez (antoniov) updated subscribers of T87461: Grease Pencil: Stroke subdivide doesn't work correctly on closed shapes.

Can you test with the build of today? IIRC @Falk David (filedescriptor) fixed!

Tue, Apr 13, 1:10 PM · Grease Pencil, BF Blender
Tomasz Kaye (bitbutter) added a project to T87461: Grease Pencil: Stroke subdivide doesn't work correctly on closed shapes: Grease Pencil.
Tue, Apr 13, 12:57 PM · Grease Pencil, BF Blender
Jeroen Bakker (jbakker) claimed T85620: Port Temporal AntiAliasing to Grease Pencil.
Tue, Apr 13, 12:16 PM · Grease Pencil
Antonio Vazquez (antoniov) added a comment to T87400: Edit Mode: Select > Alternate does not select First or Last point ( recommend end point be selected as default).

I have changed the default. It was arbitrary to set default to ON, better set as disabled.

Tue, Apr 13, 9:35 AM · Grease Pencil
Antonio Vazquez (antoniov) closed T87400: Edit Mode: Select > Alternate does not select First or Last point ( recommend end point be selected as default) as Resolved by committing rB7b9d94e07360: Fix T87400: GPencil change Select Alternate defaults.
Tue, Apr 13, 9:35 AM · Grease Pencil
rd (smartdog) added a comment to T87400: Edit Mode: Select > Alternate does not select First or Last point ( recommend end point be selected as default).

@Antonio Vazquez (antoniov) Yes, I have it works wonderfully.
I was just wondering why the default would be set to "Unselect Ends"?

Tue, Apr 13, 12:24 AM · Grease Pencil

Mon, Apr 12

Vyacheslav (hitrpr) added a comment to T87406: Grease pencil. Stroke color do not match to object`s color.

@Antonio Vazquez (antoniov)

  1. Here 2 strokes with very different colors. And they are almost similat in workbench.

Mon, Apr 12, 6:45 PM · Grease Pencil, BF Blender
Antonio Vazquez (antoniov) added a comment to T87406: Grease pencil. Stroke color do not match to object`s color.

With the change proposed by @Falk David (filedescriptor) you just can set as Flat and you get what you want. Grease Pencil main focus is 2D animation, so get the strokes and fills with a slightly different color is very good. Maybe, for you user case can be annoying, but we cannot set something by default that is against general 2D animation.

Mon, Apr 12, 6:32 PM · Grease Pencil, BF Blender
Vyacheslav (hitrpr) added a comment to T87406: Grease pencil. Stroke color do not match to object`s color.

@Vyacheslav (hitrpr) And why is it an issue to use the material color and not the object color? It seems to me like the object color is not really what you are looking for.

Mon, Apr 12, 6:21 PM · Grease Pencil, BF Blender
Falk David (filedescriptor) added a comment to T87406: Grease pencil. Stroke color do not match to object`s color.

@Vyacheslav (hitrpr) And why is it an issue to use the material color and not the object color? It seems to me like the object color is not really what you are looking for.

Mon, Apr 12, 5:08 PM · Grease Pencil, BF Blender
Vyacheslav (hitrpr) updated subscribers of T87406: Grease pencil. Stroke color do not match to object`s color.

@Falk David (filedescriptor) umm…
I would prefer to select technical color manually to see all better.
Can`t agree with such intensions. Similar problem appears with wireframes: I can`t make em exact same color, as I set. They always darker or lighter…
It produces many problems with complex scenes. @Paul Kotelevets (1D_Inc) can explain it better and already did it.

Mon, Apr 12, 5:02 PM · Grease Pencil, BF Blender
Falk David (filedescriptor) added a comment to T87406: Grease pencil. Stroke color do not match to object`s color.

@Vyacheslav (hitrpr) The color shift was done intentionally (to make strokes and fills visually differentiable). The fix attached makes it so that if the Lighting in the VIewport Settings is set to "Flat", all the strokes and fills will be set to the same color.

Mon, Apr 12, 4:54 PM · Grease Pencil, BF Blender