Node sockets disappearing but still dragging works #102007

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Tamil Selvan · 2022-10-23T07:07:16+02:00

Tamil Selvan commented

2022-10-23 07:07:16 +02:00

System Information
Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.22000-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 516.93

Blender Version
Broken: version: 3.4.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2022-10-22 22:32, hash: b70bbfadfe

Short description of error
When a node is added and zoomed out, the node sockets disappear. But still, the drag function works.

Node Socket Bug Report .mp4

**System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.22000-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 516.93 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 3.4.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2022-10-22 22:32, hash: `b70bbfadfe` **Short description of error** When a node is added and zoomed out, the node sockets disappear. But still, the drag function works. [Node Socket Bug Report .mp4](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13752978/Node_Socket_Bug_Report_.mp4)

Tamil Selvan commented

2022-10-23 07:07:16 +02:00

Added subscriber: @Tams_3d

Tamil Selvan changed title from ~~Geometry Nodes: Node sockets disappearing but still dragging works~~ to Node sockets disappearing but still dragging works

2022-10-23 07:09:21 +02:00

Iliya Katushenock commented

2022-10-23 11:34:53 +02:00

Added subscriber: @mod_moder

Iliya Katushenock commented

2022-10-23 11:34:53 +02:00

~~They don't disappear. The radius is just an integer. And it tends to 0 when divided by your scale.~~
But the fact that he is still usible is the norm. At least, absolutely the entire interface remains working at any resolution. The fact that the elements disappear and are still usible (getting into the 0-size button) already looks strange, but it's more of a question.

~~They don't disappear. The radius is just an integer. And it tends to 0 when divided by your scale.~~ But the fact that he is still usible is the norm. At least, absolutely the entire interface remains working at any resolution. The fact that the elements disappear and are still usible (getting into the 0-size button) already looks strange, but it's more of a question.

Iliya Katushenock commented

2022-10-23 11:39:54 +02:00

Also, this happens in any nodes.

Pratik Borhade commented

2022-10-23 12:09:33 +02:00

Added subscribers: @HooglyBoogly, @PratikPB2123

Pratik Borhade commented

2022-10-23 12:09:33 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Archived'

Pratik Borhade closed this issue

2022-10-23 12:09:33 +02:00

Pratik Borhade commented

2022-10-23 12:09:33 +02:00

They don't disappear. The radius is just an integer. And it tends to 0 when divided by your scale.

Not a bug in that case.
The issue reported here is a request for modified/improved behavior and not a bug in current behavior. Closing as this bug tracker is only for bugs and errors.
For user requests and feedback, please use other channels: https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Communication/Contact#User_Feedback_and_Requests
For more information on why this isn't considered a bug, visit: https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Reference/Not_a_bug
tagging @HooglyBoogly so devs/module owner will also be aware of this report. Feel free to reopen if improvement is needed here.

> They don't disappear. The radius is just an integer. And it tends to 0 when divided by your scale. Not a bug in that case. The issue reported here is a request for modified/improved behavior and not a bug in current behavior. Closing as this bug tracker is only for bugs and errors. For user requests and feedback, please use other channels: https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Communication/Contact#User_Feedback_and_Requests For more information on why this isn't considered a bug, visit: https://wiki.blender.org/wiki/Reference/Not_a_bug tagging @HooglyBoogly so devs/module owner will also be aware of this report. Feel free to reopen if improvement is needed here.

Leon Schittek commented

2022-10-23 12:40:51 +02:00

Added subscriber: @lone_noel

Leon Schittek commented

2022-10-23 12:40:51 +02:00

I think there is some merit to the report.

The sockets are hidden at lower zoom levels to improve drawing performace (see the comment /* Skip slow socket drawing if zoom is small. */ in node_draw.cc), but as shown in the video the zoom alone isn't a good heuristc since the node editor also scales with the UI scale leading to the node sockets not being drawn even though they would have easily been visible.

We're also not very consistent about this and don't hide sockets on hidden nodes (see screenshot below).

Not sure if that classifies as bug, but there is definitely room for us to make this more consistent! :)

Notice how the sockets on the hidden nodes are still visible in the bottom editor, while not being drawn on the uncollapsed node.

I think there is some merit to the report. The sockets are hidden at lower zoom levels to improve drawing performace (see the comment `/* Skip slow socket drawing if zoom is small. */` in `node_draw.cc`), but as shown in the video the zoom alone isn't a good heuristc since the node editor also scales with the UI scale leading to the node sockets not being drawn even though they would have easily been visible. We're also not very consistent about this and don't hide sockets on hidden nodes (see screenshot below). Not sure if that classifies as bug, but there is definitely room for us to make this more consistent! :) --- Notice how the sockets on the hidden nodes are still visible in the bottom editor, while not being drawn on the uncollapsed node. ![Bildschirmfoto 2022-10-23 um 12.26.14.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13753147/Bildschirmfoto_2022-10-23_um_12.26.14.png)

Iliya Katushenock commented

2022-10-23 12:55:06 +02:00

Changed status from 'Archived' to: 'Confirmed'

Iliya Katushenock reopened this issue

2022-10-23 12:55:06 +02:00

Iliya Katushenock commented

2022-10-23 12:55:06 +02:00

see the comment /* Skip slow socket drawing if zoom is small. */ in node_draw.cc

I'm sorry I didn't check. I noticed that the size changes in jerks and that was enough for me.
But if we consider this as the fact that the drawing does not occur at all, but yes. Even on big screens it will be like that.
In that case, if this is actually intended behavior, which may not be very consistent, is this a known issue?

> see the comment `/* Skip slow socket drawing if zoom is small. */` in node_draw.cc I'm sorry I didn't check. I noticed that the size changes in jerks and that was enough for me. But if we consider this as the fact that the drawing does not occur at all, but yes. Even on big screens it will be like that. In that case, if this is actually intended behavior, which may not be very consistent, is this a known issue?

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Node sockets disappearing but still dragging works #102007