Cycles GPU crash when switching to Rendered 3DViewport --MacOS 13.1-- #103327

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Guido · 2022-12-19T02:13:18+01:00

Guido commented

2022-12-19 02:13:18 +01:00

System Information

Operating system:	Graphics card:	Log:	Report:	User:
macOS-13.1-x86_64-i386-64bit 64 Bits	AMD Radeon Pro 5700 XT OpenGL Engine ATI Technologies Inc. 4.1 ATI-4.9.51	Blender-2022-12-20-125131.ips	#103327	@Nurb2Kea
macOS-13.6.3-x86_64-i386-64bit 64 Bits	Metal API AMD Radeon Pro Vega II Duo 1.2	os_report.rtf	#116195	@DERJUNG3D

Blender Version
Broken: 3.5.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2022-12-18 20:06, hash: 50c7eb14f4
Worked: 3.5.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2022-12-16 20:43, hash: 4254810e50 (works fine)

Short description of error
Instant crash of blender when switching to rendered 3DView.

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error
Compile latest 3.5 version as of 2022-12-18 20:06, hash: 50c7eb14f4
open empty scene provided below and switch to rendered 3DView.
gpu.blend

xcode 14.1
latest brew updates
(cycles-cache & build-darwin folders deleted before compiling )

PS: When switching to CPU there is no crash. Only GPU !

**System Information** |Operating system:|Graphics card:|Log:|Report:|User:| |--|--|--|--|--| |macOS-13.1-x86_64-i386-64bit 64 Bits|AMD Radeon Pro 5700 XT OpenGL Engine ATI Technologies Inc. 4.1 ATI-4.9.51|[Blender-2022-12-20-125131.ips](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F14076347/Blender-2022-12-20-125131.ips)|#103327|@Nurb2Kea| |macOS-13.6.3-x86_64-i386-64bit 64 Bits|Metal API AMD Radeon Pro Vega II Duo 1.2|[os_report.rtf](attachments/f7b535e4-3913-48a7-b167-e1764d3cf607)|#116195|@DERJUNG3D| **Blender Version** Broken: 3.5.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2022-12-18 20:06, hash: `50c7eb14f4` Worked: 3.5.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2022-12-16 20:43, hash: `4254810e50` (works fine) **Short description of error** Instant crash of blender when switching to rendered 3DView. **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** Compile latest 3.5 version as of 2022-12-18 20:06, hash: `50c7eb14f4` open empty scene provided below and switch to rendered 3DView. [gpu.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F14071250/gpu.blend) ![system.jpg](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F14071271/system.jpg) xcode 14.1 latest brew updates (cycles-cache & build-darwin folders deleted before compiling ) PS: When switching to CPU there is no crash. Only GPU !

Guido commented

2022-12-19 02:13:18 +01:00

Added subscriber: @Nurb2Kea

blender-admin commented

2022-12-19 02:13:18 +01:00

#103290 was marked as duplicate of this issue

blender-admin commented

2022-12-19 02:13:18 +01:00

#102453 was marked as duplicate of this issue

blender-admin commented

2022-12-19 02:13:18 +01:00

#103302 was marked as duplicate of this issue

Omar Emara commented

2022-12-19 15:17:26 +01:00

Added subscriber: @OmarEmaraDev

Omar Emara commented

2022-12-19 15:17:26 +01:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'

Omar Emara commented

2022-12-19 15:17:26 +01:00

Can you attach the crash log created by Blender when it crashes?

Guido commented

2022-12-19 16:57:12 +01:00

Even with the terminal, you won't see anything when it crashes.
3.5 is getting worse since a month, and I'm not able to tell !

3.5.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2022-12-16 20:43, hash: 4254810e50 (the version before this one) works fine and I even can render animations again what wasn't possible a week ago...

Nothing in it:

Blender 3.5.0, Commit date: 2022-12-18 20:06, Hash 50c7eb14f4
bpy.ops.initial.settings() # Operator

backtrace

Python backtrace

Even with the terminal, you won't see anything when it crashes. 3.5 is getting worse since a month, and I'm not able to tell ! 3.5.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2022-12-16 20:43, hash: 4254810e50 (the version before this one) works fine and I even can render animations again what wasn't possible a week ago... Nothing in it: Blender 3.5.0, Commit date: 2022-12-18 20:06, Hash 50c7eb14f455 bpy.ops.initial.settings() # Operator backtrace Python backtrace

Guido commented

2022-12-20 01:09:14 +01:00

Continues with : 3.5.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2022-12-19 20:56, hash: c2a8d8b18d

Continues with : 3.5.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2022-12-19 20:56, hash: `c2a8d8b18d`

Omar Emara commented

2022-12-20 07:43:27 +01:00

Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Needs Triage'

Omar Emara commented

2022-12-20 10:32:55 +01:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'

Omar Emara commented

2022-12-20 10:32:55 +01:00

Can you perhaps check if you can find any relevant logs as per https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/26480/where-can-i-find-my-crash-logs?

Alaska commented

2022-12-20 12:26:24 +01:00

Added subscriber: @Alaska

Alaska commented

2022-12-20 12:26:24 +01:00

This is most likely the issue described here: https://blender.chat/channel/render-cycles-module?msg=BGRhNkijQJPTXbm77

Alaska commented

2022-12-20 12:26:59 +01:00

Added subscriber: @LukasStockner

Alaska commented

2022-12-20 12:26:59 +01:00

Hopefully @LukasStockner or someone else gets around to fixing it soon.

Guido commented

2022-12-20 12:54:43 +01:00

That's what I found.
Blender-2022-12-20-125131.ips

That's what I found. [Blender-2022-12-20-125131.ips](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F14076347/Blender-2022-12-20-125131.ips)

Omar Emara commented

2022-12-20 14:49:58 +01:00

Added subscriber: @Kent-Davis

Omar Emara commented

2022-12-20 14:50:16 +01:00

_platform_strlen
ccl::MetalKernelPipeline::compile()
ccl::ShaderCache::compile_thread_func(int)
void* std::__1::__thread_proxy<std::__1::tuple<std::__1::unique_ptr<std::__1::__thread_struct, std::__1::default_delete<std::__1::__thread_struct> >, ccl::ShaderCache::load_kernel(ccl::DeviceKernel, ccl::MetalDevice*, ccl::MetalPipelineType)::$_1> >(void*)
_pthread_start
thread_start

``` _platform_strlen ccl::MetalKernelPipeline::compile() ccl::ShaderCache::compile_thread_func(int) void* std::__1::__thread_proxy<std::__1::tuple<std::__1::unique_ptr<std::__1::__thread_struct, std::__1::default_delete<std::__1::__thread_struct> >, ccl::ShaderCache::load_kernel(ccl::DeviceKernel, ccl::MetalDevice*, ccl::MetalPipelineType)::$_1> >(void*) _pthread_start thread_start ```

Omar Emara commented

2022-12-20 14:50:51 +01:00

Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Needs Triage'

Richard Antalik commented

2022-12-20 18:36:32 +01:00

Added subscriber: @iss

Richard Antalik commented

2022-12-20 18:36:32 +01:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Confirmed'

Richard Antalik commented

2022-12-20 18:36:32 +01:00

Can confirn, same stacktrace as in #102453, but different function was compiled. Will confirm this task and merge #102453 here, since this is easier to reproduce.

With debugger code got stuck on exception in MetalKernelPipeline::compile() on printf "Error getting function"

Can confirn, same stacktrace as in #102453, but different function was compiled. Will confirm this task and merge #102453 here, since this is easier to reproduce. With debugger code got stuck on exception in MetalKernelPipeline::compile() on printf "Error getting function"

Richard Antalik commented

2022-12-20 18:36:50 +01:00

Added subscriber: @shugo

Omar Emara commented

2022-12-20 19:46:02 +01:00

Added subscribers: @DanielBrylka, @Memento

Lukas Stockner commented

2023-01-06 00:21:26 +01:00

Should be fixed by 4c295276f0 in recent nightly builds. Would be great if someone could double-check so we can mark this resolved.

Should be fixed by 4c295276f0 in recent nightly builds. Would be great if someone could double-check so we can mark this resolved.

Lukas Stockner self-assigned this 2023-01-06 00:21:32 +01:00

Daniel Brylka commented

2023-01-06 07:04:29 +01:00

yes, the latest build from the 6th of January (and from the last days too) does indeed compile the render kernels with two instances of MTLCompilerService on my intel 2020 iMac 27" (with 16 GB 5700-XT).
Then the workshop.blend scene renders in about 52s and uses a bit over 50% of the GPU.
This is still only half as quick as the Blender release 3.4.1 - here it takes only 28s.
What could be the reason for the slowdown?

Since the support of Metal in Blender I ran the same benchmark each time a new version or system update came out. Here are the results:

Intel iMAC 27“

Blender 3.0
iMac 27“ CPU
60s

Blender 3.1
iMac 27“ CPU
56s

Blender 3.2 Alpha (MacOS 12.3 Metal support!)
iMac 27“ GPU
30s

Blender 3.4 Alpha (MacOS 12.5)
iMac 27“ GPU
30s

Blender 3.4 Alpha (MacOS 12.6)
iMac 27“ GPU
28,4s

Blender 3.4 Alpha (MacOS 13.0)
iMac 27“ GPU
28,76s

Blender 3.5 Alpha (MacOS 13.0.1)
iMac 27“ GPU
28,23s

Blender 3.4 Release (MacOS 13.1)
iMac 27“ GPU
28s

Blender 3.4.1 Release (MacOS 13.1)
iMac 27“ GPU
28s

Blender 3.5 Alpha (MacOS 13.1)
iMac 27“ GPU
52s

I am having strange general crashes of the iMac that I cannot pinpoint. But for sure they are more often since Ventura.
I checked my machine and RAM. My uninformed guess is it has something to do with the "WindowsServer", Metal and the GPU.

Thanks for fixing the Alpha again. Best Daniel

yes, the latest build from the 6th of January (and from the last days too) does indeed compile the render kernels with two instances of MTLCompilerService on my intel 2020 iMac 27" (with 16 GB 5700-XT). Then the workshop.blend scene renders in about 52s and uses a bit over 50% of the GPU. This is still only half as quick as the Blender release 3.4.1 - here it takes only 28s. What could be the reason for the slowdown? Since the support of Metal in Blender I ran the same benchmark each time a new version or system update came out. Here are the results: Intel iMAC 27“ Blender 3.0 iMac 27“ CPU 60s Blender 3.1 iMac 27“ CPU 56s Blender 3.2 Alpha (MacOS 12.3 Metal support!) iMac 27“ GPU 30s Blender 3.4 Alpha (MacOS 12.5) iMac 27“ GPU 30s Blender 3.4 Alpha (MacOS 12.6) iMac 27“ GPU 28,4s Blender 3.4 Alpha (MacOS 13.0) iMac 27“ GPU 28,76s Blender 3.5 Alpha (MacOS 13.0.1) iMac 27“ GPU 28,23s Blender 3.4 Release (MacOS 13.1) iMac 27“ GPU 28s **Blender 3.4.1 Release (MacOS 13.1) iMac 27“ GPU 28s** Blender 3.5 Alpha (MacOS 13.1) iMac 27“ GPU 52s I am having strange general crashes of the iMac that I cannot pinpoint. But for sure they are more often since Ventura. I checked my machine and RAM. My uninformed guess is it has something to do with the "WindowsServer", Metal and the GPU. Thanks for fixing the Alpha again. Best Daniel

Richard Antalik commented

2023-01-06 14:03:26 +01:00

Changed status from 'Confirmed' to: 'Resolved'

Richard Antalik closed this issue

2023-01-06 14:03:26 +01:00

Richard Antalik commented

2023-01-06 14:03:26 +01:00

Can confirm this being resolved, closing.

Kent Davis commented

2023-02-11 16:14:22 +01:00

There still bad crash during GPU Compute (Computer) on properties during Cycles render. See my other new ticket.
@DanielBrylka
@iss
#104596
Also check my youtube with my link.
There is not resolve.

There still bad crash during GPU Compute (Computer) on properties during Cycles render. See my other new ticket. @DanielBrylka @iss https://projects.blender.org/blender/blender/issues/104596 Also check my youtube with my link. There is not resolve.

Daniel Brylka commented

2023-02-12 09:55:27 +01:00

Hi @Kent-Davis, I just checked on my iMac the 3.5 Alpha from the 12th of February.

I do not see any crashes for a while now and I am happy to report that at least on my configuration the render speed improved a lot again.

Blender 3.4.1 Release (MacOS 13.1)
iMac 27“ GPU
28s

Blender 3.5 Alpha (MacOS 13.2)
iMac 27“ GPU
27s

It's clear to see in the activity monitor that my Radeon Pro 5700 XT is using up to 80% while rendering.
You have a different AMD card as far I could see, right?

I hope you find a cause for your crashes soon.

Best, Daniel

Hi @Kent-Davis, I just checked on my iMac the 3.5 Alpha from the 12th of February. I do not see any crashes for a while now and I am happy to report that at least on my configuration the render speed improved a lot again. Blender 3.4.1 Release (MacOS 13.1) iMac 27“ GPU 28s Blender 3.5 Alpha (MacOS 13.2) iMac 27“ GPU 27s It's clear to see in the activity monitor that my Radeon Pro 5700 XT is using up to 80% while rendering. You have a different AMD card as far I could see, right? I hope you find a cause for your crashes soon. Best, Daniel

Guido commented

2023-02-22 00:46:59 +01:00

As you can see it's one step away from crashing in video 01.
The second video shows how metal backend is displaying icons and signs when scaling the ui, what never happened in OpenGL.

System Information
Operating system: macOS-13.2.1-x86_64-i386-64bit 64 Bits
Graphics card: Metal API AMD Radeon Pro 5700 XT 1.2

Blender Version
Broken: version: 3.6.0 Alpha, branch: main, commit date: 2023-02-20 22:04, hash: 07ae1feed2b9

As you can see it's one step away from crashing in video 01. The second video shows how metal backend is displaying icons and signs when scaling the ui, what never happened in OpenGL. **System Information** Operating system: macOS-13.2.1-x86_64-i386-64bit 64 Bits Graphics card: Metal API AMD Radeon Pro 5700 XT 1.2 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 3.6.0 Alpha, branch: main, commit date: 2023-02-20 22:04, hash: `07ae1feed2b9`

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2023-02-22 00:47:02 +01:00

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Guido commented

2023-02-22 00:47:03 +01:00

As you can see it's one step away from crashing in video 01.
The second video shows how metal backend is displaying icons and signs when scaling the ui, what never happened in OpenGL.

System Information
Operating system: macOS-13.2.1-x86_64-i386-64bit 64 Bits
Graphics card: Metal API AMD Radeon Pro 5700 XT 1.2

Blender Version
Broken: version: 3.6.0 Alpha, branch: main, commit date: 2023-02-20 22:04, hash: 07ae1feed2b9

Edit: Complete MacOS crash & reboot with :Broken: version: 3.6.0 Alpha, branch: main, commit date: 2023-03-03 23:37, hash: d0cfbc23db81

As you can see it's one step away from crashing in video 01. The second video shows how metal backend is displaying icons and signs when scaling the ui, what never happened in OpenGL. **System Information** Operating system: macOS-13.2.1-x86_64-i386-64bit 64 Bits Graphics card: Metal API AMD Radeon Pro 5700 XT 1.2 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 3.6.0 Alpha, branch: main, commit date: 2023-02-20 22:04, hash: `07ae1feed2b9` Edit: Complete MacOS crash & reboot with :Broken: version: 3.6.0 Alpha, branch: main, commit date: 2023-03-03 23:37, hash: `d0cfbc23db81`

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Guido referenced this issue

2023-02-22 00:49:34 +01:00

Blender 3.4 & 3.5 Cycles crashes constantly after rendering +-10 animation frames -- MacOS 13 & 13.0.1 Ventura -- #102453

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2023-02-27 20:53:24 +01:00

Blender 3.4 & 3.5 Cycles crashes constantly after rendering +-10 animation frames -- MacOS 13 & 13.0.1 Ventura -- #102453

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Blender 3.4 & 3.5 Cycles crashes constantly after rendering +-10 animation frames -- MacOS 13 & 13.0.1 Ventura -- #102453

Joaquim Berenguer commented

2023-03-04 18:31:27 +01:00

I'm not sure if is the same issue.
3.4.1 and Beta 3.5 Crashing when changing to shading viewport, still working perfect in 3.3
No matter how simple or complex files are.
I also found that Beta 3.5 was working fine for a while and then and with no reason begins crashing when F12 is pushed even with the files that worked fine before making it not usable at all in my machine.
By the way, Beta 3.5 viewport textures look weird when Viewport Metal is used

ImacPro
3,2 Ghz Xeon W 8 Cores
Radeon Pro Vega 56 8Gb
32 Gb 2666 Mhz DDR4
Ventura 13.2.1

I'm not sure if is the same issue. 3.4.1 and Beta 3.5 Crashing when changing to shading viewport, still working perfect in 3.3 No matter how simple or complex files are. I also found that Beta 3.5 was working fine for a while and then and with no reason begins crashing when F12 is pushed even with the files that worked fine before making it not usable at all in my machine. By the way, Beta 3.5 viewport textures look weird when Viewport Metal is used ImacPro 3,2 Ghz Xeon W 8 Cores Radeon Pro Vega 56 8Gb 32 Gb 2666 Mhz DDR4 Ventura 13.2.1

Kent Davis commented

2023-03-05 00:48:12 +01:00

Check my report ticket long explain.
#105148

Check my report ticket long explain. https://projects.blender.org/blender/blender/issues/105148

Joaquim Berenguer commented

2023-03-06 11:46:48 +01:00

Check my report ticket long explain.
#105148

Thank you. Last test with 3.5β was quite better, Having problems with some addons with viewport metal enable.
ex. KitOps was fully disable and not able to work

> Check my report ticket long explain. > https://projects.blender.org/blender/blender/issues/105148 Thank you. Last test with 3.5β was quite better, Having problems with some addons with viewport metal enable. ex. KitOps was fully disable and not able to work

Kent Davis commented

2023-03-06 16:15:14 +01:00

@QBer You are welcome.

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Germano Cavalcante referenced this issue

2023-12-14 21:25:35 +01:00

Crash – Switching from cycles to viewport shading. #116195

Germano Cavalcante commented

2023-12-15 13:48:34 +01:00

I am confirming this issue, as it has been reported other times and may be related to these other reports:
#111408: Cycles GPU Compute 5000 x 5000 pixels render F12 crashes
#112678: Regression: Crashes when uses preview or final render modes

I am confirming this issue, as it has been reported other times and may be related to these other reports: #111408: Cycles GPU Compute 5000 x 5000 pixels render F12 crashes #112678: Regression: Crashes when uses preview or final render modes

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Cycles GPU crash when switching to Rendered 3DViewport --MacOS 13.1-- #103327