.abc Loads On Ubuntu Fails To Load On Windows 7 #53839

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opened 2018-01-19 18:08:14 +01:00 by Atomic · 16 comments

System Information
Windows 7 and Ubuntu 17.10
nVidia 660 and nVidia 1070
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Blender Version
2.79
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Short description of error
On Ubuntu, I exported a nurbs circle from Houdini Indie using the Alembic ROP.
On same Ubuntu I run Blender 2.79 and import the .abc file.
It works as shown.
Untitled-1.jpg

I try to import the same .abc file using Blender 2.79 on Windows 7 and a console error is produced. The file is not loaded.
Untitled-2.jpg

**System Information** Windows 7 and Ubuntu 17.10 nVidia 660 and nVidia 1070 Operating system and graphics card **Blender Version** 2.79 Worked: (optional) **Short description of error** On Ubuntu, I exported a nurbs circle from Houdini Indie using the Alembic ROP. On same Ubuntu I run Blender 2.79 and import the .abc file. It works as shown. ![Untitled-1.jpg](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F1896666/Untitled-1.jpg) I try to import the same .abc file using Blender 2.79 on Windows 7 and a console error is produced. The file is not loaded. ![Untitled-2.jpg](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F1896630/Untitled-2.jpg)
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is this exported as HDF5?
afaik, blender releases build without it? WITH_ALEMBIC_HDF5 is off and not supported anymore, see 2.79 release , should now use Ogawa always.

So you might have a custom build on your ubuntu?

is this exported as HDF5? afaik, blender releases build without it? `WITH_ALEMBIC_HDF5` is off and not supported anymore, see [2.79 release ](https://www.wiki.blender.org/index.php/Dev:Ref/Release_Notes/2.79/Alembic), should now use Ogawa always. So you might have a custom build on your ubuntu?
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should be an option in houdini, see here

Marking as incomplete until this question is out of the way...

should be an option in houdini, see [here ](https://www.sidefx.com/docs/houdini/nodes/out/alembic.html) Marking as incomplete until this question is out of the way...
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I can't load this file neither on linux nor windows, it's also suspiciously small you sure it's not just a corrupt file?

I can't load this file neither on linux nor windows, it's also suspiciously small you sure it's not just a corrupt file?

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Well, here is what Houdini 16.5 says to the attached .abc file.

Alembic_Error.png

Well, here is what Houdini 16.5 says to the attached .abc file. ![Alembic_Error.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F1897896/Alembic_Error.png)
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hm, true, file seems to be currupt, no? abcecho and abcls even crash...

hm, true, file seems to be currupt, no? `abcecho` and `abcls` even crash...
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It does look like the original attached file was corrupted on upload somehow? I am re-uploading the same exact file, which does work on both Houdini 16.5.332 and Blender 2.79. I have removed the bad file from the first post.
untitled-1.jpg

My Ubuntu system is a standard install of 17.10. I installed Houdini, Redshift and Blender. I am no Linux guru so there are no other tools installed.

Please give this .abc file a try.
nurbs_circle.abc

It does look like the original attached file was corrupted on upload somehow? I am re-uploading the same exact file, which does work on both Houdini 16.5.332 and Blender 2.79. I have removed the bad file from the first post. ![untitled-1.jpg](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F1928518/untitled-1.jpg) My Ubuntu system is a standard install of 17.10. I installed Houdini, Redshift and Blender. I am no Linux guru so there are no other tools installed. Please give this .abc file a try. [nurbs_circle.abc](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F1928504/nurbs_circle.abc)
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I re-conducted the import test on Windows 7 downloading the new file I posted.
This does produce working results. However, the result in 2.79 are wrong while the results in 2.78c are correct.

In both cases, there are extra points on the circle causing it to not form a perfect nurbs circle.

In 2.79 it looks like Blender treats the nurbs circle import as a mesh based circle that has been turned into a polygon based circle.
Untitled-1.jpg

In 2.78c the import looks much better but has over hanging extra points.
Untitled-2.jpg

It looks like we are losing functionality in Alembic import on 2.79, compared to 2.78c.

I re-conducted the import test on Windows 7 downloading the new file I posted. This does produce working results. However, the result in 2.79 are wrong while the results in 2.78c are correct. In both cases, there are extra points on the circle causing it to not form a perfect nurbs circle. In 2.79 it looks like Blender treats the nurbs circle import as a mesh based circle that has been turned into a polygon based circle. ![Untitled-1.jpg](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F1928656/Untitled-1.jpg) In 2.78c the import looks much better but has over hanging extra points. ![Untitled-2.jpg](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F1928660/Untitled-2.jpg) It looks like we are losing functionality in Alembic import on 2.79, compared to 2.78c.
Sybren A. Stüvel was assigned by Philipp Oeser 2018-01-30 17:20:00 +01:00
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Well hm, afaiks this is a matter of setting the curve resolution.
In 278c curve resolution wasnt really considered at all thus defaulting to U=12

in 5bdbc88ab8 this (curve resolution) was implemented [export>import in blender works], but for files not having this new user property set this would now default to a resolution of 1.

While not really a bug, I think D3031: fix #53839: better default for curve resolution in abc import makes more sense? @dr.sybren : could you check?

Well hm, afaiks this is a matter of setting the curve resolution. In 278c curve resolution wasnt really considered at all thus defaulting to U=12 in 5bdbc88ab8 this (curve resolution) was implemented [export>import in blender works], but for files not having this new user property set this would now default to a resolution of 1. While not really a bug, I think [D3031: fix #53839: better default for curve resolution in abc import](https://archive.blender.org/developer/D3031) makes more sense? @dr.sybren : could you check?

@AtomP please attach example files to the task description, so that people interested in solving this don't have to read through each individual comment to see which file(s) they should be using.

Apart from the resolution now defaulting to 1 instead of 12 (let's discuss that further in D3031), is there anything else that could be seen as a bug in Blender?

@AtomP please attach example files to the task description, so that people interested in solving this don't have to read through each individual comment to see which file(s) they should be using. Apart from the resolution now defaulting to 1 instead of 12 (let's discuss that further in [D3031](https://archive.blender.org/developer/D3031)), is there anything else that could be seen as a bug in Blender?
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Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Archived'

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Archived'
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Seems like a default resolution of 1 (current behaviour) is indeed the wiser choice here (see reasoning in D3031).
Will archive this then as there is nothing else that can be seen as a bug here afaics.

Seems like a default resolution of 1 (current behaviour) is indeed the wiser choice here (see reasoning in [D3031](https://archive.blender.org/developer/D3031)). Will archive this then as there is nothing else that can be seen as a bug here afaics.
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