Operators doing several different things can only have one tooltip (see e.g. Transfer weights tooltip). #85233

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Samuli Pahaoja · 2021-01-30T18:54:05+01:00

Samuli Pahaoja commented

2021-01-30 18:54:05 +01:00

There is currently no way to alter the tooltip of operators doing different actions depending on their settings.

Note that usually, the way to work around that is to create several operators using same code under the hood? If we accept that as a solution, then at some point we need document that in coding guidelines, and to check and address existing cases.

Original report

System Information
Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.19041-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 457.51

Blender Version
Broken: version: 2.91.2, branch: master, commit date: 2021-01-19 16:15, hash: 5be9ef4177

Short description of error
Weight Paint mode menu entry "Transfer Weights" tooltip says "Transfer data ... from active to selected meshes", but it appears to do the opposite.

There is currently no way to alter the tooltip of operators doing different actions depending on their settings. Note that usually, the way to work around that is to create several operators using same code under the hood? If we accept that as a solution, then at some point we need document that in coding guidelines, and to check and address existing cases. -------------------------------------------- *Original report* **System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.19041-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 457.51 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 2.91.2, branch: master, commit date: 2021-01-19 16:15, hash: `5be9ef4177` **Short description of error** Weight Paint mode menu entry "Transfer Weights" tooltip says "Transfer data ... from active to selected meshes", but it appears to do the opposite.

Samuli Pahaoja commented

2021-01-30 18:54:05 +01:00

Added subscriber: @skarkkai

Falk David commented

2021-02-01 08:53:07 +01:00

Added subscriber: @filedescriptor

Falk David commented

2021-02-01 08:53:07 +01:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Confirmed'

Falk David commented

2021-02-01 08:53:07 +01:00

I can confirm this on the latest alpha and beta. It indeed seems like the active object's data is changed and the selected objects are not affected. The manual also disagrees with the tooltip: https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/latest/sculpt_paint/weight_paint/editing.html#transfer-weights

Bastien Montagne commented

2021-03-02 14:33:50 +01:00

Added subscriber: @mont29

Bastien Montagne commented

2021-03-02 14:33:50 +01:00

This is a generic known issue regarding operators' tooltips, there is only one tooltip, even if code can do several different things...

Though we had a task for that already, but apparently not, so will keep that one for that now.

This is a generic known issue regarding operators' tooltips, there is only one tooltip, even if code can do several different things... Though we had a task for that already, but apparently not, so will keep that one for that now.

Bastien Montagne changed title from ~~Transfer weights tooltip wrong~~ to Operators doing several different things can only have one tooltip (see e.g. Transfer weights tooltip).

2021-03-02 14:36:42 +01:00

H.A. Bie commented

2022-01-24 15:29:07 +01:00

Added subscriber: @bbr20222

H.A. Bie commented

2022-01-24 15:29:07 +01:00

I was going to report the same bug and see that there is a fix that changes the tooltip depending on the use_reverse_transfer option. (Fix #85233).

But now I wonder where you can change this use_reverse_transfer option? There is no setting in the Adjust Last Operation popup.

After searching in the source I figured out that there are two menu entries that offer a weights transfer:

in Weight Paint mode, menu entry Weights > Transfer Weights -- this uses use_reverse_transfer=true as defined in scripts/startup/bl_ui/space_view3d.py and copies weights from all selected to the active object
in Object mode, menu entry Object > Link/Transfer Data > Transer Mesh Data -- this seems to use use_reverse_transfer=false and copies the weights from active to all selected objects

Wouldn't it be better to have a direction option (use_reverse_transfer) in the Adjust Last Operation popup dialog so users can see what's going on and can change it if needed?

I was going to report the same bug and see that there is a fix that changes the tooltip depending on the *use_reverse_transfer* option. (Fix #85233). But now I wonder where you can change this *use_reverse_transfer* option? There is no setting in the *Adjust Last Operation* popup. After searching in the source I figured out that there are two menu entries that offer a weights transfer: - in *Weight Paint* mode, menu entry *Weights > Transfer Weights* -- this uses *use_reverse_transfer=true* as defined in scripts/startup/bl_ui/space_view3d.py and copies weights from all selected to the active object - in *Object* mode, menu entry *Object > Link/Transfer Data > Transer Mesh Data* -- this seems to use *use_reverse_transfer=false* and copies the weights from active to all selected objects Wouldn't it be better to have a direction option (use_reverse_transfer) in the *Adjust Last Operation* popup dialog so users can see what's going on and can change it if needed?

blender-admin commented

2022-01-27 17:17:59 +01:00

This issue was referenced by 25ac6aa5e4

This issue was referenced by 25ac6aa5e4365f7b9467753b9fbc2c7ee4b636b7

Bastien Montagne commented

2022-01-27 17:22:43 +01:00

Changed status from 'Confirmed' to: 'Resolved'

Bastien Montagne closed this issue

2022-01-27 17:22:43 +01:00

Bastien Montagne self-assigned this 2022-01-27 17:22:43 +01:00

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Operators doing several different things can only have one tooltip (see e.g. Transfer weights tooltip). #85233