Simple way to make Blender crash........ #89907

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Lorne · 2021-07-16T23:34:18+02:00

Lorne commented

2021-07-16 23:34:18 +02:00

System Information
Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.19041-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: Intel(R) UHD Graphics 630 Intel 4.5.0 - Build 26.20.100.7925

Blender Version
Broken: version: 3.0.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2021-07-10 13:52, hash: 49a363f0e0
Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected)

Short description of error
Simple way to make Blender crash, at least on my PC. Just follow these steps:

Load Blender New File.
With the Blender loaded defaults open LMC on Select. I have only tried this on Layout & Modelling don't know if the same thing happens in others.
Click on Circle Select. ResultBlender has locked.

Simple as that. When this first started happening about 2 or 3 weeks ago, everything locked. I had to Hold the Power button for 10 seconds to shut down the PC. Once my computer restarted I tried several other programs on this PC and they worked fine. This gave me enough confidence to try Blender again.

I probably went through this same process 5 or 6 times a day for a week or more. When not on Blender I tried adjusting various Settings in Windows......eventually discovering that if I:
a) Opened Windows settings.
b) Clicked on Search
c) Clicked on Searching Windows
d) Looked at Excluded folders and took them out of the Excluded Folders category so that Windows could search them. Blender worked better, not great, but better.

Because of a to e:
First thing to change was I could move the mouse pointer around allowing me to go to the top right hand corner of the display to click X to close Blender, That was the end of shutting the PC off and restarting.

Also other changes have happened in the last 72 hours. I expect because of:

1.1 MS has made some updates
1.2 KB5004237
1.3 KB2267602 (Version 1.343.957.0)
1.4 Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool x64 - v5.91 (KB8980830)
1.5 plus whatever you Blender Folks have done in updating releases

Now after steps 1, 2, and 3, above I can RMB click and file unlocks. I can start working again on a new file, old file etc.
But: Working on a new file works fairly well. If I mistakenly click Circle Select I can just RMB click and carry on working on the file. However if I load an "old file" in Blender the file is very very unstable, making it just about impossible for me to work with.

Now I have to apologize..... I reported this with Task #89824. Which was put on hold waiting for further information from me. Task 89824 would not let me back in because I took to long to provide additional information, Also I could not provide a video or other information Blender wanted.

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error
[Please describe the exact steps needed to reproduce the issue]
[Based on the default startup or an attached .blend file (as simple as possible)]

Steps as provided above under "short description of error"

Thanks
Lorne

Keep up the good work Blender folks!!

**System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.19041-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: Intel(R) UHD Graphics 630 Intel 4.5.0 - Build 26.20.100.7925 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 3.0.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2021-07-10 13:52, hash: `49a363f0e0` Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected) **Short description of error** Simple way to make Blender crash, at least on my PC. Just follow these steps: 1. Load Blender New File. 2. With the Blender loaded defaults open LMC on Select. I have only tried this on Layout & Modelling don't know if the same thing happens in others. 3. Click on Circle Select. **Result**Blender has locked. Simple as that. When this first started happening about 2 or 3 weeks ago, everything locked. I had to Hold the Power button for 10 seconds to shut down the PC. Once my computer restarted I tried several other programs on this PC and they worked fine. This gave me enough confidence to try Blender again. I probably went through this same process 5 or 6 times a day for a week or more. When not on Blender I tried adjusting various Settings in Windows......eventually discovering that if I: a) Opened Windows settings. b) Clicked on Search c) Clicked on Searching Windows d) Looked at Excluded folders and took them out of the Excluded Folders category so that Windows could search them. Blender worked better, not great, but better. Because of a to e: First thing to change was I could move the mouse pointer around allowing me to go to the top right hand corner of the display to click X to close Blender, That was the end of shutting the PC off and restarting. Also other changes have happened in the last 72 hours. I expect because of: 1.1 MS has made some updates 1.2 KB5004237 1.3 KB2267602 (Version 1.343.957.0) 1.4 Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool x64 - v5.91 (KB8980830) 1.5 plus whatever you Blender Folks have done in updating releases Now after steps 1, 2, and 3, above I can RMB click and file unlocks. I can start working again on a new file, old file etc. But: Working on a new file works fairly well. If I mistakenly click Circle Select I can just RMB click and carry on working on the file. However if I load an "old file" in Blender the file is very very unstable, making it just about impossible for me to work with. Now I have to apologize..... I reported this with Task #89824. Which was put on hold waiting for further information from me. Task 89824 would not let me back in because I took to long to provide additional information, Also I could not provide a video or other information Blender wanted. **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** [Please describe the exact steps needed to reproduce the issue] [Based on the default startup or an attached .blend file (as simple as possible)] Steps as provided above under "short description of error" Thanks Lorne Keep up the good work Blender folks!!

Lorne commented

2021-07-16 23:34:18 +02:00

Added subscriber: @cmablend

Crowe commented

2021-07-17 01:32:27 +02:00

Added subscriber: @crowe

Crowe commented

2021-07-17 01:32:27 +02:00

The previous report is still open, you should be able to comment on it with more information, if not edit the original post. Also, please use descriptive titles.

I'm not sure what you mean by "LMC", but piecing info from you previous and current report the steps are:

Open Blender and navigate to either the default Layout or Modelling workspaces.
On the 3D Viewport header, click on Select > Circle Select.

Is that correct? If yes, I cannot reproduce the issue on either 62d9dabc7db4 nor ae379714e4f1 releases, which precede and come after yours.

My suggestion is to do a File > Defaults > Load Factory Settings as startup files from previous builds can cause issues, including crashes. Also disable all your custom add-ons. If that doesn't help it might be an issue with your system. Check the Event Viewer for clues about what might be happening and consider updating or rolling back your graphics card driver.

The previous report is still open, you should be able to comment on it with more information, if not edit the original post. Also, please use descriptive titles. I'm not sure what you mean by "LMC", but piecing info from you previous and current report the steps are: 1. Open Blender and navigate to either the default Layout or Modelling workspaces. 2. On the 3D Viewport header, click on `Select > Circle Select`. Is that correct? If yes, I cannot reproduce the issue on either `62d9dabc7db4` nor `ae379714e4f1` releases, which precede and come after yours. My suggestion is to do a `File > Defaults > Load Factory Settings` as startup files from previous builds can cause issues, including crashes. Also disable all your custom add-ons. If that doesn't help it might be an issue with your system. Check the Event Viewer for clues about what might be happening and consider updating or rolling back your graphics card driver.

Evan Wilson commented

2021-07-17 07:56:10 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'

Pratik Borhade commented

2021-07-17 12:24:53 +02:00

Closed as duplicate of #89824

Pratik Borhade closed this issue

2021-07-17 12:24:53 +02:00

Pratik Borhade commented

2021-07-17 12:25:05 +02:00

Added subscriber: @PratikPB2123

Pratik Borhade commented

2021-07-17 12:25:05 +02:00

@cmablend , please add requested information for #89824. Separate task for the same issue is not vey useful.

I will merge this report into #89824 :)

@cmablend , please add requested information for #89824. Separate task for the same issue is not vey useful. I will merge this report into `#89824` :)

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Simple way to make Blender crash........ #89907