New AMD Drivers (Adrenalin 22.7.1 or 22.8.2) for Windows 10 cause toolbars to be completely black #100096

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opened 2022-07-31 13:40:58 +02:00 by keerthiprasad · 142 comments

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Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.19044-SP0

Graphics card: Driver: User:
Radeon RX 580 Series 4.5.0 Core Profile Context 22.7.1.220725 @GKPrasad
Radeon RX 580 Series 4.5.0 Core Profile Context 22.8.1.220810 @Vaskos
AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT 4.5.0 Core Profile Context 22.7.1.220725 @ShockHazard1
Radeon(TM) RX 460 Graphics 4.5.0 Core Profile Context 22.7.1.220725 @patrickshyee
AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 3 Graphics 4.5.0 Core Profile Context 22.8.2.220819 @Alenda
AMD Radeon(TM) RX Vega 10 Graphics ATI Technologies Inc. 4.5.0 Core Profile Context 22.10.1.221003 @JaedenREE

Works fine on:
Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.22000-SP0 (Windows 11)

Graphics card: Driver: User:
Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics 4.5.0 Core Profile Context 22.7.1.220725 @mano-wii
Graphics card: Driver: User:
Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics 4.5.0 Core Profile Context 22.8.2.220819 @Jeroen-Bakker

Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.19042-SP0 64 Bits

Blender Version
Broken: (3.2)

non of the tabs are visible. as u can see in the image its entirely black. I wont be able to use the program at all. Please do fix this.

The error exists as soon as i open blender program
blender error.jpg

**System Information** Broken: Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.19044-SP0 |Graphics card:|Driver:|User: |---|---|--- |Radeon RX 580 Series|4.5.0 Core Profile Context 22.7.1.220725|@GKPrasad |Radeon RX 580 Series|4.5.0 Core Profile Context 22.8.1.220810|@Vaskos |AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT|4.5.0 Core Profile Context 22.7.1.220725|@ShockHazard1 |Radeon(TM) RX 460 Graphics|4.5.0 Core Profile Context 22.7.1.220725|@patrickshyee |AMD Radeon(TM) Vega 3 Graphics|4.5.0 Core Profile Context 22.8.2.220819|@Alenda |AMD Radeon(TM) RX Vega 10 Graphics ATI Technologies Inc.|4.5.0 Core Profile Context 22.10.1.221003|@JaedenREE Works fine on: Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.22000-SP0 (Windows 11) |Graphics card:|Driver:|User: |---|---|--- |Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics|4.5.0 Core Profile Context 22.7.1.220725|@mano-wii Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.19042-SP0 64 Bits |Graphics card:|Driver:|User: |---|---|--- |Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics|4.5.0 Core Profile Context 22.8.2.220819| @Jeroen-Bakker --- **Blender Version** Broken: (3.2) non of the tabs are visible. as u can see in the image its entirely black. I wont be able to use the program at all. Please do fix this. The error exists as soon as i open blender program ![blender error.jpg](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13327438/blender_error.jpg)
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Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'

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Thanks for the report. Does this happen when you run blender from blender_factory_startup.cmd?

Thanks for the report. Does this happen when you run blender from `blender_factory_startup.cmd`?
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Thanks for the report. Does this happen when you run blender from blender_factory_startup.cmd?

I have never used blender_factory_startup.cmd and dont know what and how to use that. I just double click it or right click and run as administrator to start blender.

> Thanks for the report. Does this happen when you run blender from `blender_factory_startup.cmd`? I have never used blender_factory_startup.cmd and dont know what and how to use that. I just double click it or right click and run as administrator to start blender.
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@GKPrasad, you can find blender_factory_startup.cmd in the same directory where blender.exe is located
(for example: C:\Program Files\Blender Foundation\Blender 3.2)


Running blender through this batch file loads blender with default settings

@GKPrasad, you can find `blender_factory_startup.cmd` in the same directory where blender.exe is located (for example: `C:\Program Files\Blender Foundation\Blender 3.2`) - - - Running blender through this batch file loads blender with default settings
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how long will it take to fix it?

how long will it take to fix it?
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In #100096#1397746, @PratikPB2123 wrote:
@GKPrasad, you can find blender_factory_startup.cmd in the same directory where blender.exe is located
(for example: C:\Program Files\Blender Foundation\Blender 3.2)


Running blender through this batch file loads blender with default settings

Ill check it out?

> In #100096#1397746, @PratikPB2123 wrote: > @GKPrasad, you can find `blender_factory_startup.cmd` in the same directory where blender.exe is located > (for example: `C:\Program Files\Blender Foundation\Blender 3.2`) > - - - > Running blender through this batch file loads blender with default settings Ill check it out?
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I tried with blender_factory_startup.cmd . It has got the same error. no toolbars and icons are displaying. Its just black everywhere.

I tried with blender_factory_startup.cmd . It has got the same error. no toolbars and icons are displaying. Its just black everywhere.
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Looks like a blender .zip install that was unproperly unpacked, the logs created by blender_factory_startup.cmd could probably be used to confirm, please attach them

Looks like a blender .zip install that was unproperly unpacked, the logs created by `blender_factory_startup.cmd` could probably be used to confirm, please attach them
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When I unpack blender file from https://www.blender.org/download/ and install it I am able to see blender_factory_startup.cmd already. I double clickedblender_factory_startup.cmd to run and i see the same error. I dont understand the concept of attaching them separately. Please explain.

When I unpack blender file from https://www.blender.org/download/ and install it I am able to see **blender_factory_startup.cmd** already. I double clicked**blender_factory_startup.cmd** to run and i see the same error. I dont understand the concept of attaching them separately. Please explain.
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can u please fix the issue ASAP. I am really working a lot of projects to learn a lot from blender as a beginner. this is definitely stopping the learning process.

can u please fix the issue ASAP. I am really working a lot of projects to learn a lot from blender as a beginner. this is definitely stopping the learning process.

I'm in the same situation too. I can't do anything for days

I'm in the same situation too. I can't do anything for days
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In #100096#1398485, @ahmet02300 wrote:
I'm in the same situation too. I can't do anything for days

Ohh!! I thought it was happening just on my PC. not able to see any tutorials on youtube based on this. if u ever come across any solution, please do let me know.

> In #100096#1398485, @ahmet02300 wrote: > I'm in the same situation too. I can't do anything for days Ohh!! I thought it was happening just on my PC. not able to see any tutorials on youtube based on this. if u ever come across any solution, please do let me know.
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In #100096#1398358, @GKPrasad wrote:
When I unpack blender file from https://www.blender.org/download/ and install it I am able to see blender_factory_startup.cmd already. I double clickedblender_factory_startup.cmd to run and i see the same error. I dont understand the concept of attaching them separately. Please explain.

@GKPrasad:

  • run blender from blender_factory_startup.cmd
  • them close the blender instance (close button on top right corner)
  • Now Windows explorer will open which contains two files: blender_system_info and blender_debug_output
  • Upload these generated files as it is in .txt format
> In #100096#1398358, @GKPrasad wrote: > When I unpack blender file from https://www.blender.org/download/ and install it I am able to see **blender_factory_startup.cmd** already. I double clicked**blender_factory_startup.cmd** to run and i see the same error. I dont understand the concept of attaching them separately. Please explain. @GKPrasad: - run blender from `blender_factory_startup.cmd` - them close the blender instance (close button on top right corner) - Now Windows explorer will open which contains two files: `blender_system_info` and `blender_debug_output` - Upload these generated files as it is in .txt format
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blender_system_info.txt

blender_debug_output.txt

Thanks for instructing. I did exactly as you said. I have attached the file.

[blender_system_info.txt](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13331444/blender_system_info.txt) [blender_debug_output.txt](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13331443/blender_debug_output.txt) Thanks for instructing. I did exactly as you said. I have attached the file.
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Thanks for the file. Is this happening since 3.2 installation?
or started to happen after AMD's optional driver(22.7.1) update?: https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-22-7-1
Off topic but these optional drivers has already affected viewport drawing: #100034 (Glitches with new AMD drivers (Adrenalin 22.7.1 or 22.8.2) when overlay has transparent images)

Thanks for the file. Is this happening since 3.2 installation? or started to happen after AMD's optional driver(22.7.1) update?: https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-22-7-1 Off topic but these optional drivers has already affected viewport drawing: #100034 (Glitches with new AMD drivers (Adrenalin 22.7.1 or 22.8.2) when overlay has transparent images)
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I think after the update of amd. also after 3.2 coincidentally updated both very recently. not sure. so what could be the possible fix?

I think after the update of amd. also after 3.2 coincidentally updated both very recently. not sure. so what could be the possible fix?

I reinstalled previous amd driver 22. 5 and it fixed. Ty for help

I reinstalled previous amd driver 22. 5 and it fixed. Ty for help
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Also blender does not recognise my AMD RX 480 GPU for rendering. Are there any plugins which help blender use AMD gpus?

Also blender does not recognise my AMD RX 480 GPU for rendering. Are there any plugins which help blender use AMD gpus?
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In #100096#1398711, @ahmet02300 wrote:
I reinstalled previous amd driver 22. 5 and it fixed. Ty for help

Seems newer drivers are responsible then. Not sure how to proceed in such case
@mano-wii, have you experienced similar issue?

> In #100096#1398711, @ahmet02300 wrote: > I reinstalled previous amd driver 22. 5 and it fixed. Ty for help Seems newer drivers are responsible then. Not sure how to proceed in such case @mano-wii, have you experienced similar issue?

There is a conflict between the information provided in the blender_system_info.txt and the report.
One says Radeon RX 580 Series and the other says amd rx 480.

There is something wrong there, if AMD's Auto-Detect is installing the wrong divers, I recommend trying to manually install the driver for the corresponding GPU.

There is a conflict between the information provided in the `blender_system_info.txt` and the report. One says `Radeon RX 580 Series` and the other says `amd rx 480`. There is something wrong there, if AMD's Auto-Detect is installing the wrong divers, I recommend trying to manually install the driver for the corresponding GPU.
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In #100096#1398711, @ahmet02300 wrote:
I reinstalled previous amd driver 22. 5 and it fixed. Ty for help

Thanks. This solved the problem but does it mean that AMD updates wont support blender? not sure

> In #100096#1398711, @ahmet02300 wrote: > I reinstalled previous amd driver 22. 5 and it fixed. Ty for help Thanks. This solved the problem but does it mean that AMD updates wont support blender? not sure

Changed status from 'Needs Developer To Reproduce' to: 'Needs User Info'

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Looking at the automatic recommendations of AMD driver version 22.5.1 should be used.
22.7.1 is not the preferred one.

Anyway I installed 22.7.1 and the problem did not appear.
So I suspect that something led to the installation of a wrong driver in both cases reported (especially with the conflicting information in the system.txt).
Make sure you install the drivers for RX 480:
https://www.amd.com/en/support/graphics/radeon-400-series/radeon-rx-400-series/radeon-rx-480


My System Information
Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.22000-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics ATI Technologies Inc. 4.5.0 Core Profile Context 22.7.1.220725

Looking at the automatic recommendations of AMD driver version 22.5.1 should be used. 22.7.1 is not the preferred one. Anyway I installed `22.7.1` and the problem did not appear. So I suspect that something led to the installation of a wrong driver in both cases reported (especially with the conflicting information in the system.txt). Make sure you install the drivers for RX 480: https://www.amd.com/en/support/graphics/radeon-400-series/radeon-rx-400-series/radeon-rx-480 --- **My System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.22000-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics ATI Technologies Inc. 4.5.0 Core Profile Context 22.7.1.220725

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I have the same issue since update to AMD Adrinalin 22.7.1 with Blender 3.2.1 and also with Blender 3.2.2 I tried yesterday.
If I donwgrade the AMD driver back to Adrinalin 22.6.1 the issue is gone.

But I have an AMD RX 5600 (XFX Radeon RX 5600 XT Thicc III Ultra) and not a RX 480

I have the same issue since update to AMD Adrinalin 22.7.1 with Blender 3.2.1 and also with Blender 3.2.2 I tried yesterday. If I donwgrade the AMD driver back to Adrinalin 22.6.1 the issue is gone. But I have an AMD RX 5600 (XFX Radeon RX 5600 XT Thicc III Ultra) and not a RX 480
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Here you can find my debug files:

blender_system_info_AMD-22.6.1.txt

blender_debug_output_AMD-22.6.1.txt

blender_system_info_AMD-22.7.1.txt

blender_debug_output_AMD-22.7.1.txt

I done it with AMD Adrenalin 22.6.1 and AMD Adrenalin 22.7.1. The issue persist also if I start Blender with blender_factory_startup.cmd

Here you can find my debug files: [blender_system_info_AMD-22.6.1.txt](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13338117/blender_system_info_AMD-22.6.1.txt) [blender_debug_output_AMD-22.6.1.txt](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13338116/blender_debug_output_AMD-22.6.1.txt) [blender_system_info_AMD-22.7.1.txt](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13338119/blender_system_info_AMD-22.7.1.txt) [blender_debug_output_AMD-22.7.1.txt](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13338118/blender_debug_output_AMD-22.7.1.txt) I done it with AMD Adrenalin 22.6.1 and AMD Adrenalin 22.7.1. The issue persist also if I start Blender with blender_factory_startup.cmd
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Also, if I open any window like the "User Preference" or "Open file..." windows, the content inside the window is off like it is having trouble refreshing itself. I ran the suggestion .cmd executables

blender_factory_startup.cmd debug_logs:
blender_debug_output.txt

blender_system_info.txt

blender_debug_glitchworkaround.cmd debug_logs:

  • The reason I ran this is because this happened after a GPU update.
  • I open some windows to see if there are errors that would pop for you.
    blender_debug_output.txt

blender_system_info.txt

Here is my userpref.blend. I saw this when I was read the debug output.
userpref.blend

Also, if I open any window like the "User Preference" or "Open file..." windows, the content inside the window is off like it is having trouble refreshing itself. I ran the suggestion .cmd executables blender_factory_startup.cmd debug_logs: [blender_debug_output.txt](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13349289/blender_debug_output.txt) [blender_system_info.txt](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13349290/blender_system_info.txt) blender_debug_glitchworkaround.cmd debug_logs: - The reason I ran this is because this happened after a GPU update. - I open some windows to see if there are errors that would pop for you. [blender_debug_output.txt](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13349349/blender_debug_output.txt) [blender_system_info.txt](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13349350/blender_system_info.txt) Here is my userpref.blend. I saw this when I was read the debug output. [userpref.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13349333/userpref.blend)

In #100096#1398664, @PratikPB2123 wrote:
Thanks for the file. Is this happening since 3.2 installation?
or started to happen after AMD's optional driver(22.7.1) update?: https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-22-7-1
Off topic but these optional drivers has already affected viewport drawing: #100034 (Glitches with new AMD drivers (Adrenalin 22.7.1 or 22.8.2) when overlay has transparent images)

Yes, happened directly after I updated. I was able to see everything before the update.

> In #100096#1398664, @PratikPB2123 wrote: > Thanks for the file. Is this happening since 3.2 installation? > or started to happen after AMD's optional driver(22.7.1) update?: https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-22-7-1 > Off topic but these optional drivers has already affected viewport drawing: #100034 (Glitches with new AMD drivers (Adrenalin 22.7.1 or 22.8.2) when overlay has transparent images) Yes, happened directly after I updated. I was able to see everything before the update.

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Same with AMD's new BETA driver Adrenalin 22.8.1.

https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-22-8-1

Same with AMD's new BETA driver Adrenalin 22.8.1. https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-22-8-1

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Not an expert, but if you are having issues after a GPU update, I don't think that's a coincidence. Now, maybe your current GPU's driver happen to have some sort of bug, but maybe the issue comes from the installation instead: the wrong driver for your hardware, corrupted files/reg, stale files/reg from previous installations and whatnot. That's why it is good practice to perform a "clean" reinstallation when encountering issues that may be related to graphics driver.
And in that purpose it is highly suggested to NOT use any kind of automated solution that's supposed to auto-detect what driver you need, even from the manufacturer, and go yourself download the driver you need for your specific hardware on either AMD or Nvidia's websites.

If you don't know how to perform a clean driver installation, here's a decent guide for windows: How To - How to perform a CLEAN install of your video card drivers. | Tom's Hardware Forum

Not an expert, but if you are having issues after a GPU update, I don't think that's a coincidence. Now, maybe your current GPU's driver happen to have some sort of bug, but maybe the issue comes from the installation instead: the wrong driver for your hardware, corrupted files/reg, stale files/reg from previous installations and whatnot. That's why it is good practice to perform a "clean" reinstallation when encountering issues that may be related to graphics driver. And in that purpose it is highly suggested to NOT use any kind of automated solution that's supposed to auto-detect what driver you need, even from the manufacturer, and go yourself download the driver you need for your specific hardware on either AMD or Nvidia's websites. If you don't know how to perform a clean driver installation, here's a decent guide for windows: [How To - How to perform a CLEAN install of your video card drivers. | Tom's Hardware Forum](https://forums.tomshardware.com/faq/how-to-perform-a-clean-install-of-your-video-card-drivers.2402269/)

@Loïc DAUTRY (-L0Lock-)

This was already done by me. And if I reinstall the driver from AMD Adrenalin 22.6.1, as clean installation or simply installed over the current 22.7.1 or 22.8.1 version, every thing works fine again.

But I know that AMD done changes with OpenGL, because in the release note from 22.7.1 (https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-22-7-1) you can read:
OpenGL® Optimizations

  • Up to 79% increase in performance in Minecraft™ @ 4k Fabulous settings, using Radeon™ Software Adrenalin 22.7.1 on the Radeon™️ RX 6950XT, versus the previous software driver version 22.6.1 RS-491
  • Up to 75% increase in performance in Minecraft™ @ 4k Fabulous settings, using Radeon™ Software Adrenalin 22.7.1 on the Radeon™️ RX 6400, versus the previous software driver version 22.6.1 RS-495

And in the release note from 22.8.1 (https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-22-8-1):

Important Notes

  • OpenGL applications that are 10-bit aware are no longer supported with HDR display capabilities. Enabling 10-Bit Pixel Format in advanced graphics settings is only recommended for use of 10-bit aware OpenGL applications and not required for enabling 10-Bit Color Display Capabilities.

And the toolbars in Blender use OpenGL, if I am not wrong.

@Loïc DAUTRY (-L0Lock-) This was already done by me. And if I reinstall the driver from AMD Adrenalin 22.6.1, as clean installation or simply installed over the current 22.7.1 or 22.8.1 version, every thing works fine again. But I know that AMD done changes with OpenGL, because in the release note from 22.7.1 (https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-22-7-1) you can read: OpenGL® Optimizations - Up to 79% increase in performance in Minecraft™ @ 4k Fabulous settings, using Radeon™ Software Adrenalin 22.7.1 on the Radeon™️ RX 6950XT, versus the previous software driver version 22.6.1 RS-491 - Up to 75% increase in performance in Minecraft™ @ 4k Fabulous settings, using Radeon™ Software Adrenalin 22.7.1 on the Radeon™️ RX 6400, versus the previous software driver version 22.6.1 RS-495 And in the release note from 22.8.1 (https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-22-8-1): Important Notes - OpenGL applications that are 10-bit aware are no longer supported with HDR display capabilities. Enabling 10-Bit Pixel Format in advanced graphics settings is only recommended for use of 10-bit aware OpenGL applications and not required for enabling 10-Bit Color Display Capabilities. And the toolbars in Blender use OpenGL, if I am not wrong.

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@Germano Cavalcante (mano-wii):

If I see it correctly, you are using Windows 11 with your Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics and do not have this issue. Do you have the possibility to test it with Windows 10?

@Germano Cavalcante (mano-wii): If I see it correctly, you are using Windows 11 with your Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics and do not have this issue. Do you have the possibility to test it with Windows 10?

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In #100096#1407546, @ShockHazard1 wrote:
@mano-wii:

If I see it correctly, you are using Windows 11 with your Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics and do not have this issue. Do you have the possibility to test it with Windows 10?

In #100561, @Mehmet-Yasin-Erdogdu reported that upgrading to Windows 11 solved the problem. So it must be related.

> In #100096#1407546, @ShockHazard1 wrote: > @mano-wii: > > If I see it correctly, you are using Windows 11 with your Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics and do not have this issue. Do you have the possibility to test it with Windows 10? In #100561, @Mehmet-Yasin-Erdogdu reported that upgrading to Windows 11 solved the problem. So it must be related.
Germano Cavalcante changed title from completely black tool bars. Not able to see any options to New AMD Drivers (Adrenalin 22.7.1 or 22.8.2) for Windows 10 causes completely black tool bars 2022-08-23 14:47:42 +02:00
Germano Cavalcante changed title from New AMD Drivers (Adrenalin 22.7.1 or 22.8.2) for Windows 10 causes completely black tool bars to New AMD Drivers (Adrenalin 22.7.1 or 22.8.2) for Windows 10 cause toolbars to be completely black 2022-08-23 14:48:46 +02:00
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I am on Windows 11 and I have this issue.

I am on Windows 11 and I have this issue.
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Same issue here again after the update. It seems like any AMD update is not gonna be compatible with blender.

Same issue here again after the update. It seems like any AMD update is not gonna be compatible with blender.
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I tried to debug this issue, but wasn’t successful. It fails with a null pointer exception inside the driver during startup. Will try to debug more next week.

Looking at the issues we might need to blacklist these drivers. Has anyone tried to run with gpu workarounds enabled?

I tried to debug this issue, but wasn’t successful. It fails with a null pointer exception inside the driver during startup. Will try to debug more next week. Looking at the issues we might need to blacklist these drivers. Has anyone tried to run with gpu workarounds enabled?

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{F13456052}>>! In #100096#1397655, @PratikPB2123 wrote:

Thanks for the report. Does this happen when you run blender from blender_factory_startup.cmd?

It doesn't work for me. Toolbars are still black
I've all .cmds exept for blender_oculus.cmd and toolbars aren't working
edit: i attached the files and im using 22.8.2 on RX 6600

[blender_debug_output.txt](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13456051/blender_debug_output.txt) {[F13456052](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13456052/blender_system_info.txt)}>>! In #100096#1397655, @PratikPB2123 wrote: > Thanks for the report. Does this happen when you run blender from `blender_factory_startup.cmd`? It doesn't work for me. Toolbars are still black I've all .cmds exept for blender_oculus.cmd and toolbars aren't working edit: i attached the files and im using 22.8.2 on RX 6600

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Blender doesn't work with the preview drivers on my rx 6600
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Blender doesn't work with the preview drivers on my rx 6600 ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13474429/image.png) ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13474432/image.png) ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13474435/image.png) ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13474442/image.png)
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Was progressing a lot with blender and now because of this error the whole process has been put on hold. "Team blender" please fix this ASAP.

Was progressing a lot with blender and now because of this error the whole process has been put on hold. "Team blender" please fix this ASAP.

Any Updates about this issue?

Any Updates about this issue?
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None of the developers to my knowledge have been able to reproduce the issue. This makes it hard to do the right thing. So far no progress has been made. Personally I’m occupied with other driver issues and haven’t been able to spent time researching this one further.

Nonetheless we think this is a real issue, just don’t have free resources to make this a priority right now.

None of the developers to my knowledge have been able to reproduce the issue. This makes it hard to do the right thing. So far no progress has been made. Personally I’m occupied with other driver issues and haven’t been able to spent time researching this one further. Nonetheless we think this is a real issue, just don’t have free resources to make this a priority right now.

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@Jeroen-Bakker:
Thanks for the feedback and short update. We all looking forward if this issue is solved.

@Jeroen-Bakker: Thanks for the feedback and short update. We all looking forward if this issue is solved.

Also an issue on 22.9.1
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Also an issue on 22.9.1 ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13559915/image.png)

K seems to work with 22.9.2 (Maybe cause I used DDU(Display Driver Uninstaller)) but now my browser constantly flashes black
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K seems to work with 22.9.2 (Maybe cause I used DDU(Display Driver Uninstaller)) but now my browser constantly flashes black ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13581628/image.png)

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Can you elaborate? How to use DDU?

Can you elaborate? How to use DDU?

Can I ask you to remove me from subscribers on this? I just pointed to a duplicate and was merged along with the author of the report.

Can I ask you to remove me from subscribers on this? I just pointed to a duplicate and was merged along with the author of the report.
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In #100096#1423682, @GKPrasad wrote:
Can you elaborate? How to use DDU?

You select device type(GPU)
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It will autofill for your current gpu
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and click clean and restart
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Then reinstall your gpu drivers from amd's website

> In #100096#1423682, @GKPrasad wrote: > Can you elaborate? How to use DDU? You select device type(GPU) ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13583441/image.png) It will autofill for your current gpu ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13583446/image.png) and click clean and restart ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13583449/image.png) Then reinstall your gpu drivers from amd's website

I can confirm the display driver uninstaller actually fixes the problem!!! Thank you so much 😭!! image.png Before actually running the ddu application, I recommend putting your computer into safe mode and restart it just in case something does go wrong.

I can confirm the display driver uninstaller actually fixes the problem!!! Thank you so much 😭!! ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13584505/image.png) Before actually running the ddu application, I recommend putting your computer into safe mode and restart it just in case something *does* go wrong.
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finally worked. thanks mate

finally worked. thanks mate

DDU solved at the moment also for me this issue. But we will see how it will be, after next update from AMD. And finally, nobody knows why this happen to some users.

DDU solved at the moment also for me this issue. But we will see how it will be, after next update from AMD. And finally, nobody knows why this happen to some users.
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Unfortunately, DDU did not solve this issue for me. After reinstalling 22.9.2. for RX5700XT the Blender UI is still black

Unfortunately, DDU did not solve this issue for me. After reinstalling 22.9.2. for RX5700XT the Blender UI is still black

Issue is present again after the update to Adrenalin Edition 22.10.1.

It can't be the solution to do everytime a complete uninstall of drivers and settings with DDU.

Issue is present again after the update to Adrenalin Edition 22.10.1. It can't be the solution to do everytime a complete uninstall of drivers and settings with DDU.
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If the issue is related to the installer of the driver, it doesn’t seem that we can influence it from the blender codebase. I am going to inform AMD about this topic. Hope they can solve it.

Mark it as a known issue as it hasn’t been confirmed to be a bug inside Blender.

If the issue is related to the installer of the driver, it doesn’t seem that we can influence it from the blender codebase. I am going to inform AMD about this topic. Hope they can solve it. Mark it as a known issue as it hasn’t been confirmed to be a bug inside Blender.

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In SolveSpace (https://solvespace.com) we have the same problem. Here is the issue for cross reference:
https://github.com/solvespace/solvespace/issues/1278

In SolveSpace (https://solvespace.com) we have the same problem. Here is the issue for cross reference: https://github.com/solvespace/solvespace/issues/1278

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Balazs Birtalan self-assigned this 2022-11-20 14:07:08 +01:00

This bug happens with me as well: Blender 3.3 with 22.10.3 Driver. 5700XT AMD card. :(

This bug happens with me as well: Blender 3.3 with 22.10.3 Driver. 5700XT AMD card. :(
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Find the real culprit. you absolutely need have MSAA set as "Use appliccation settting" in the AMD driver. reverted to 22.11.1 and it work.

Find the real culprit. you absolutely need have MSAA set as "Use appliccation settting" in the AMD driver. reverted to 22.11.1 and it work.

I can confirm the statement @Soy55, because I tested it after his hint.
The issue is solved, if the AMD driver use for MSAA the option "application settings" or "expand application settings". This works on the fly and Blender needs just a restart.

I can confirm the statement @Soy55, because I tested it after his hint. The issue is solved, if the AMD driver use for MSAA the option "application settings" or "expand application settings". This works on the fly and Blender needs just a restart.

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Hello,

Resetting global graphics settings resolved this issue for me.
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Hello, Resetting global graphics settings resolved this issue for me. ![2.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13989547/2.png) ![3.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13989550/3.png)
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In #100096#1454750, @N0zil wrote:
Hello,

Resetting global graphics settings resolved this issue for me.
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This worked for me and I was able to put it back to the Esports setting.

> In #100096#1454750, @N0zil wrote: > Hello, > > Resetting global graphics settings resolved this issue for me. > ![2.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13989547/2.png) > > ![3.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13989550/3.png) This worked for me and I was able to put it back to the Esports setting.

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Interesting. Blender doesn't use MSAA, so perhaps the AMD driver expect Blender to tell them that we don't use it... I will check with their engineers.

Interesting. Blender doesn't use MSAA, so perhaps the AMD driver expect Blender to tell them that we don't use it... I will check with their engineers.
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