Spanish translation | Some other issues with the preferences area #102071

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Carlos · 2022-10-26T06:59:27+02:00

Carlos commented

2022-10-26 06:59:27 +02:00

System Information
Operating system: Linux-6.0.2-2-MANJARO-x86_64-with-glibc2.36 64 Bits
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 520.56.06

Blender Version
Broken: version: 3.4.0 Alpha and 3.3.1, branch: makepkg (modified), commit date: 2022-10-04 18:35, hash: b292cfe5a9
Worked: (?)

Short description of error
Screen is translated as "Trama" (there is no relation it means plot, weave, weft ) the right one is "Pantalla".
The left is the 3.3 in English for comparison but also the text in magenta in the 3.4 is not translated to Spanish.

I don't know if this options could be translated or not, but only a few are translated
I know the translation is not an easy job, I just want to help you and the community.
Thank you!

**System Information** Operating system: Linux-6.0.2-2-MANJARO-x86_64-with-glibc2.36 64 Bits Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 520.56.06 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 3.4.0 Alpha and 3.3.1, branch: makepkg (modified), commit date: 2022-10-04 18:35, hash: `b292cfe5a9` Worked: (?) **Short description of error** Screen is translated as "Trama" (there is no relation it means plot, weave, weft ) the right one is "Pantalla". The left is the 3.3 in English for comparison but also the text in magenta in the 3.4 is not translated to Spanish. ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13770793/image.png) I don't know if this options could be translated or not, but only a few are translated ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13770838/image.png) I know the translation is not an easy job, I just want to help you and the community. **Thank you!**

Carlos commented

2022-10-26 06:59:27 +02:00

Added subscriber: @Confabulatori

Omar Emara commented

2022-10-26 12:45:36 +02:00

Added subscriber: @GabrielGazzan

Gabriel Gazzán commented

2022-10-27 06:01:53 +02:00

Added subscriber: @pioverfour

Gabriel Gazzán commented

2022-10-27 06:01:53 +02:00

Trama vs Pantalla is one of the known problems, caused by the same text string used for the meanings of:

Computer Screen = Pantalla
and
Screen Blending Mode = Trama

I recall recent work on sorting out other occurrences of this problem by @pioverfour
but there still seems to be one or two misplaced messages left:

These are the functions currently translated by that string:

. :src: bpy.types.ColorMapping.blend_type:'SCREEN'
. :src: bpy.types.GPencilStroke.display_mode:'SCREEN'
. :src: bpy.types.Brush.blend:'SCREEN'
. :src: bpy.types.LineStyleColorModifier_AlongStroke.blend:'SCREEN'
. :src: bpy.types.LineStyleColorModifier_CreaseAngle.blend:'SCREEN'
. :src: bpy.types.LineStyleColorModifier_Curvature_3D.blend:'SCREEN'
. :src: bpy.types.LineStyleColorModifier_DistanceFromCamera.blend:'SCREEN'
. :src: bpy.types.LineStyleColorModifier_DistanceFromObject.blend:'SCREEN'
. :src: bpy.types.LineStyleColorModifier_Material.blend:'SCREEN'
. :src: bpy.types.LineStyleColorModifier_Noise.blend:'SCREEN'
. :src: bpy.types.LineStyleColorModifier_Tangent.blend:'SCREEN'
. :src: bpy.types.CompositorNodeMixRGB.blend_type:'SCREEN'
. :src: bpy.types.ShaderNodeMix.blend_type:'SCREEN'
. :src: bpy.types.ShaderNodeMixRGB.blend_type:'SCREEN'
. :src: bpy.types.ShaderNodeOutputLineStyle.blend_type:'SCREEN'
. :src: bpy.types.TextureNodeMixRGB.blend_type:'SCREEN'
. :src: bpy.types.Sequence.blend_type:'SCREEN'
. :src: bpy.types.ColorMixSequence.blend_effect:'SCREEN'
. :src: bpy.types.TextureSlot.blend_type:'SCREEN'
: source/blender/nodes/composite/nodes/node_composite_keyingscreen.cc:33
msgid "Screen"
msgstr "Trama"

I see

: source/blender/nodes/composite/nodes/node_composite_keyingscreen.cc:33

that's causing a problem in the Keying Screen node "Screen" output connector label.
But I can't manage to see, where's the link from this string to the "Screen" label in Preferences > Keymap, as shown in the first image above.

Thanks for pointing it out!

Trama vs Pantalla is one of the known problems, caused by the same text string used for the meanings of: - Computer Screen = Pantalla and - Screen Blending Mode = Trama I recall recent work on sorting out other occurrences of this problem by @pioverfour but there still seems to be one or two misplaced messages left: These are the functions currently translated by that string: - . :src: bpy.types.ColorMapping.blend_type:'SCREEN' - . :src: bpy.types.GPencilStroke.display_mode:'SCREEN' - . :src: bpy.types.Brush.blend:'SCREEN' - . :src: bpy.types.LineStyleColorModifier_AlongStroke.blend:'SCREEN' - . :src: bpy.types.LineStyleColorModifier_CreaseAngle.blend:'SCREEN' - . :src: bpy.types.LineStyleColorModifier_Curvature_3D.blend:'SCREEN' - . :src: bpy.types.LineStyleColorModifier_DistanceFromCamera.blend:'SCREEN' - . :src: bpy.types.LineStyleColorModifier_DistanceFromObject.blend:'SCREEN' - . :src: bpy.types.LineStyleColorModifier_Material.blend:'SCREEN' - . :src: bpy.types.LineStyleColorModifier_Noise.blend:'SCREEN' - . :src: bpy.types.LineStyleColorModifier_Tangent.blend:'SCREEN' - . :src: bpy.types.CompositorNodeMixRGB.blend_type:'SCREEN' - . :src: bpy.types.ShaderNodeMix.blend_type:'SCREEN' - . :src: bpy.types.ShaderNodeMixRGB.blend_type:'SCREEN' - . :src: bpy.types.ShaderNodeOutputLineStyle.blend_type:'SCREEN' - . :src: bpy.types.TextureNodeMixRGB.blend_type:'SCREEN' - . :src: bpy.types.Sequence.blend_type:'SCREEN' - . :src: bpy.types.ColorMixSequence.blend_effect:'SCREEN' - . :src: bpy.types.TextureSlot.blend_type:'SCREEN' - : source/blender/nodes/composite/nodes/node_composite_keyingscreen.cc:33 msgid "Screen" msgstr "Trama" I see # : source/blender/nodes/composite/nodes/node_composite_keyingscreen.cc:33 that's causing a problem in the Keying Screen node "Screen" output connector label. But I can't manage to see, where's the link from this string to the "Screen" label in Preferences > Keymap, as shown in the first image above. Thanks for pointing it out!

Carlos commented

2022-10-27 06:39:08 +02:00

Screen Blending Mode = Trama

Yes thank you, this is also wrong, is "Pantalla" as well. I didn't remember where I had seen it, is in the rgb mix node, this need to be changed. Just like screen in English, Pantalla in Spanish there is no difference, neither for the fusion/mix mode nor for the area in the interface. Is this way in Inkscape, Krita, Gimp and others.

It appears when you search for the "z" key binding.

> Screen Blending Mode = Trama Yes thank you, this is also wrong, is "Pantalla" as well. I didn't remember where I had seen it, is in the rgb mix node, this need to be changed. Just like screen in English, Pantalla in Spanish there is no difference, neither for the fusion/mix mode nor for the area in the interface. Is this way in Inkscape, Krita, Gimp and others. It appears when you search for the "z" key binding.

Gabriel Gazzán commented

2022-10-27 07:21:23 +02:00

Well, I wholeheartedly disagree on that one.
"Trama" is the standard translation for "Screen" blending mode in any image editor software, starting with Photoshop.
And so, is what every user would expect to find among the usual image blending modes available.

Here's an excerpt of Photoshop documentation:

Well, I wholeheartedly disagree on that one. "Trama" is the standard translation for "Screen" blending mode in any image editor software, starting with Photoshop. And so, is what every user would expect to find among the usual image blending modes available. Here's an excerpt of Photoshop documentation: ![imagen.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13778611/imagen.png) ![imagen.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13778685/imagen.png)

Damien Picard commented

2022-10-27 13:25:47 +02:00

I know the translation is not an easy job, I just want to help you and the community.

It’s much apprieciated!

In #102071#1437730, @GabrielGazzan wrote:
I see
#: source/blender/nodes/composite/nodes/node_composite_keyingscreen.cc:33
that's causing a problem in the Keying Screen node "Screen" output connector label.

This is impossible to disambiguate for now, because individual node sockets can’t have a specific context. I tried to fix it but the fix was bad and it was rejected. I’m hoping to revisit it once the general node system has progressed.

But I can't manage to see, where's the link from this string to the "Screen" label in Preferences > Keymap, as shown in the first image above.

My impression is that keymap names are not extracted at all, so only those which are already extracted elsewhere can be translated, and context collisions can happen, as in the case of Trama.
This needs to be fixed, adding to the list.

>I know the translation is not an easy job, I just want to help you and the community. It’s much apprieciated! > In #102071#1437730, @GabrielGazzan wrote: > I see > #: source/blender/nodes/composite/nodes/node_composite_keyingscreen.cc:33 > that's causing a problem in the Keying Screen node "Screen" output connector label. This is impossible to disambiguate for now, because individual node sockets can’t have a specific context. I tried to fix it but the fix was bad and it was rejected. I’m hoping to revisit it once the general node system has progressed. > But I can't manage to see, where's the link from this string to the "Screen" label in Preferences > Keymap, as shown in the first image above. My impression is that keymap names are not extracted *at all*, so only those which are already extracted elsewhere can be translated, and context collisions can happen, as in the case of *Trama*. This needs to be fixed, adding to the list.

Carlos commented

2022-10-27 16:07:27 +02:00

"Trama" is the standard translation for "Screen" blending mode in any image editor software, starting with Photoshop.

Yes this is the standard but only for Photoshop.

Da Vinci Resolve

Inkscape

Krita

Gimp

Anyway naming the mix as "Pantalla" will make it easy in case you agree (no more trama interference)

> "Trama" is the standard translation for "Screen" blending mode in any image editor software, starting with Photoshop. > Yes this is the standard but only for Photoshop. Da Vinci Resolve ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13781904/image.png) Inkscape ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13781931/image.png) Krita ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13781951/image.png) Gimp ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F13781963/image.png) Anyway naming the mix as "Pantalla" will make it easy in case you agree (no more trama interference)

Gabriel Gazzán commented

2022-10-27 21:08:15 +02:00

I have two things to say about that:

DaVinci Resolve doesn't have a Spanish UI. The capture you posted here is from a Guide document that is translated into Spanish, but not from an official part of the software.
I don't know the persons that translate the other open source software you mention here, and although I must respect their effort as much as mine, I must assume they are volunteers like me, I must also asume they could be wrong as me, and I must asume that if they don't know much about what part of the software they were translating (sometimes it happens) or if there are technical disambiguation restrictions in their softare like in Blender, then the most direct word that comes to mind when you see Screen is of course Pantalla, so they could have done it wrong and even don't know about it or can't do anything to disambiguate both cases.

On the other hand, Adobe has a tremendous impact on the user base (i.e. a vast majority of professional users use their products on a daily basis), so if they are working with that term, I think that's the word I will choose too, so they find comfortable in Blender as well.

I have two things to say about that: 1. DaVinci Resolve doesn't have a Spanish UI. The capture you posted here is from a Guide document that is translated into Spanish, but not from an official part of the software. 2. I don't know the persons that translate the other open source software you mention here, and although I must respect their effort as much as mine, I must assume they are volunteers like me, I must also asume they could be wrong as me, and I must asume that if they don't know much about what part of the software they were translating (sometimes it happens) or if there are technical disambiguation restrictions in their softare like in Blender, then the most direct word that comes to mind when you see Screen is of course Pantalla, so they could have done it wrong and even don't know about it or can't do anything to disambiguate both cases. On the other hand, Adobe has a tremendous impact on the user base (i.e. a vast majority of professional users use their products on a daily basis), so if they are working with that term, I think that's the word I will choose too, so they find comfortable in Blender as well.

blender-admin commented

2022-11-15 11:02:22 +01:00

This issue was referenced by 83c21e01dd

This issue was referenced by 83c21e01dd9a8a14ce157285e3060d15d89904c7

Omar Emara commented

2022-12-06 08:44:10 +01:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs Developer To Reproduce'

Damien Picard commented

2022-12-06 17:43:28 +01:00

Changed status from 'Needs Developer To Reproduce' to: 'Resolved'

Damien Picard closed this issue

2022-12-06 17:43:28 +01:00

Damien Picard self-assigned this 2022-12-06 17:43:28 +01:00

Damien Picard commented

2022-12-06 17:43:28 +01:00

Mostly fixed in 83c21e01dd. The remaining issue is the “Trama” or “Pantalla” blending mode in Spanish, but I don’t think this task will help settle it.

Mostly fixed in 83c21e01dd. The remaining issue is the “Trama” or “Pantalla” blending mode in Spanish, but I don’t think this task will help settle it.

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Spanish translation | Some other issues with the preferences area #102071

: source/blender/nodes/composite/nodes/node_composite_keyingscreen.cc:33