N and T hot keys for opening the side panels are reversed in the image editor #38160

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gandalf3 · 2014-01-11T09:31:19+01:00

gandalf3 commented

2014-01-11 09:31:19 +01:00

System Information
Archlinux
Nvidia 7900GT

Blender Version
Broken:

Blender 2.69
Blender 17a4ba2

Short description of error
The shortcuts for opening the tool shelf and the properties region are reversed in the UV/Image editor.

In all the other editors, N brings up the properties panel on the left, and T brings up the tool shelf on the right.

However, in the Image editor N brings up the panel on the right which appears to contain tools (e.g. grease pencil, brush/painting settings, etc.) and T brings up the panel on the left which contains property like information (histogram, scopes, etc.)

There are a few exceptions to the tools being on the left and the properties on the right, for instance the image dimensions are on the left. Perhaps these should be switched around for consistency?

I know this seems to be a rather well known thing, however I don't understand the rational behind this behavior (assuming it is intentional)
If this is not a bug, could someone please explain why this works the way it does?
Thanks

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error

Open the UV/Image editor
Press N or T
The opposite panel will appear

**System Information** Archlinux Nvidia 7900GT **Blender Version** Broken: * Blender 2.69 * Blender 17a4ba2 **Short description of error** The shortcuts for opening the tool shelf and the properties region are reversed in the UV/Image editor. In all the other editors, N brings up the properties panel on the left, and T brings up the tool shelf on the right. However, in the Image editor N brings up the panel on the right which appears to contain tools (e.g. grease pencil, brush/painting settings, etc.) and T brings up the panel on the left which contains property like information (histogram, scopes, etc.) There are a few exceptions to the tools being on the left and the properties on the right, for instance the image dimensions are on the left. Perhaps these should be switched around for consistency? I know this seems to be a rather well known thing, however I don't understand the rational behind this behavior (assuming it is intentional) If this is not a bug, could someone please explain why this works the way it does? Thanks **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** 1. Open the UV/Image editor 2. Press N or T 3. The opposite panel will appear

gandalf3 commented

2014-01-11 09:31:19 +01:00

Changed status to: 'Open'

gandalf3 commented

2014-01-11 09:31:19 +01:00

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Thomas Dinges commented

2014-01-11 14:50:27 +01:00

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Andrew Buttery commented

2014-01-11 23:47:12 +01:00

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Andrew Buttery commented

2014-01-11 23:56:16 +01:00

I have coded a fix for the sides that the properties and scopes appear - see D201.

Have not moved any information from either.

 - andrew

I have coded a fix for the sides that the properties and scopes appear - see [D201](https://archive.blender.org/developer/D201). Have not moved any information from either. - andrew

Thomas Dinges commented

2014-01-12 00:52:40 +01:00

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Resolved'

Thomas Dinges closed this issue

2014-01-12 00:52:40 +01:00

Thomas Dinges self-assigned this 2014-01-12 00:52:40 +01:00

Thomas Dinges commented

2014-01-12 00:52:40 +01:00

Fixed.

Andy Davies commented

2014-02-11 03:11:08 +01:00

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Andy Davies commented

2014-02-11 03:11:08 +01:00

Hey guys,

Since when was this a bug? Flipped or not it's been like this for 4 years and changing it is just going to mess with the muscle memory of current users. :(
I can understand changing the hotkeys for consistency but is it really needed to move the panels too?

At least before all the important information was in the centre column where as now we have the scopes panel. :/

Hey guys, Since when was this a bug? Flipped or not it's been like this for 4 years and changing it is just going to mess with the muscle memory of current users. :( I can understand changing the hotkeys for consistency but is it really needed to move the panels too? At least before all the important information was in the centre column where as now we have the scopes panel. :/

Andrew Buttery commented

2014-02-11 04:15:11 +01:00

Hi Andy,

Thomas and I went through and made all sidebar opening consistent as it was confusing to have to remember which key to press to get which sidebar for each editor... as to what goes in which Image Editor sidebar check out #38371 for more discussion about this. There will be reorganising of the sidebar content before the release (fingers crossed)...

andrew

Hi Andy, Thomas and I went through and made all sidebar opening consistent as it was confusing to have to remember which key to press to get which sidebar for each editor... as to what goes in which Image Editor sidebar check out #38371 for more discussion about this. There will be reorganising of the sidebar content before the release (fingers crossed)... - andrew

Andy Davies commented

2014-02-11 04:24:04 +01:00

Thanks for the reply @AndrewButtery
It's just super frustrating to work one way for years and then have it changed all of a sudden. This wasn't a minor change and like I said before I can understand that people would want to switch the hotkeys...I just don't feel that it was needed to change the position or the pop outs, especially since there wasn't any massive outcry or anything. Currently this is just causing me headaches. :P

Thanks for the link to the Editor sidebar btw. I will chime in there too.

Thanks for the reply @AndrewButtery It's just super frustrating to work one way for years and then have it changed all of a sudden. This wasn't a minor change and like I said before I can understand that people would want to switch the hotkeys...I just don't feel that it was needed to change the position or the pop outs, especially since there wasn't any massive outcry or anything. Currently this is just causing me headaches. :P Thanks for the link to the Editor sidebar btw. I will chime in there too.

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N and T hot keys for opening the side panels are reversed in the image editor #38160