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Thomas Dinges · 2014-04-30T19:07:41+02:00

Thomas Dinges commented

2014-04-30 19:07:41 +02:00

Hi,
so I finally installed VC2013 Express on my computer. :P
http://www.microsoft.com/de-de/download/details.aspx?id=40787

Installation itself was smooth.

Blender compilation does not run out of the box though. I could not simply run this:

 python scons/scons.py -j8 BF_BITNESS=64 MSVS_VERSION=12.0

Scons complains that I dont have vc2013 installed. I think the issues is here, scons does not know vc2013.

 scons\scons-local\SCons\Tool\MSCommon\vc.py

Anyway, starting a x64 compile from the VC2013 command line prompt works, but I guess we need to patch the vc.py file too.

Apart from that, can we drop vc2012 specific checks in the code @shadowrom. I rather only have vc2008 and 2013 for now.
Once vc2013 runs smoothly for all of us, and once we survived the 2.71(a) release, I would also like to remove vc2008 support. I hate legacy stuff. ;)

Best regards,
Thomas

P.S: A big thanks to @MartijnBerger and @JurgenHerrmann for all your work, we are finally close. :)

Hi, so I finally installed VC2013 Express on my computer. :P http://www.microsoft.com/de-de/download/details.aspx?id=40787 Installation itself was smooth. Blender compilation does not run out of the box though. I could not simply run this: ``` python scons/scons.py -j8 BF_BITNESS=64 MSVS_VERSION=12.0 ``` Scons complains that I dont have vc2013 installed. I think the issues is here, scons does not know vc2013. ``` scons\scons-local\SCons\Tool\MSCommon\vc.py ``` Anyway, starting a x64 compile from the VC2013 command line prompt works, but I guess we need to patch the vc.py file too. Apart from that, can we drop vc2012 specific checks in the code @shadowrom. I rather only have vc2008 and 2013 for now. Once vc2013 runs smoothly for all of us, and once we survived the 2.71(a) release, I would also like to remove vc2008 support. I hate legacy stuff. ;) Best regards, Thomas P.S: A big thanks to @MartijnBerger and @JurgenHerrmann for all your work, we are finally close. :)

Thomas Dinges commented

2014-04-30 19:07:41 +02:00

Changed status to: 'Open'

Thomas Dinges commented

2014-04-30 19:07:41 +02:00

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jrp commented

2014-05-01 00:18:34 +02:00

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jrp commented

2014-05-01 00:18:34 +02:00

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Problem with dropping VC 2012 is that it is needed for CUDA, at least until the summer.

Thomas Dinges commented

2014-05-01 00:23:38 +02:00

We only need an older vc installed for CUDA, not for Blender itself.

Martijn Berger commented

2014-05-01 11:46:27 +02:00

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Martijn Berger commented

2014-05-01 11:46:27 +02:00

@jrp,

"Problem with dropping VC 2012 is that it is needed for CUDA, at least until the summer."

You can make cuda perfectly happy with the Windows 7.1 SDK + updates ( == visual studio 2010 era cl.exe).
Thing is our cuda kernel does NOT contain any host code and since blender has its own GLEW like wrapper for cuda and dlopen's it the compiler used for cuda compilation and the compiler used to compile blender do not need to be the same anyway.

@jrp, "Problem with dropping VC 2012 is that it is needed for CUDA, at least until the summer." You can make cuda perfectly happy with the Windows 7.1 SDK + updates ( == visual studio 2010 era cl.exe). Thing is our cuda kernel does NOT contain any host code and since blender has its own GLEW like wrapper for cuda and dlopen's it the compiler used for cuda compilation and the compiler used to compile blender do not need to be the same anyway.

jrp commented

2014-05-02 00:47:54 +02:00

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Are you saying that I don't need the CUDA SDK? When I cmake build, I get no CUDA renderer in cycles (as I do with OpenGL if I set the env variable, with no OpenCL SDK). I don't really want to add new compilers / Windows SDK's.

Martijn Berger commented

2014-05-02 08:12:38 +02:00

@jrp well yes sort of.

you need cuda sdk to be able to compile a the rendering kernel. But building blender without it and then just adding the compiled kernel can still yield you with a working blender + cuda.
On non windows platforms blender even tries to compile the kernel at runtime if it cannot locate the cubin

@jrp well yes sort of. you need cuda sdk to be able to compile a the rendering kernel. But building blender without it and then just adding the compiled kernel can still yield you with a working blender + cuda. On non windows platforms blender even tries to compile the kernel at runtime if it cannot locate the cubin

Thomas Dinges commented

2014-05-05 08:59:03 +02:00

Added subscriber: @JurgenHerrmann

Thomas Dinges commented

2014-05-05 08:59:03 +02:00

Any updates here?
We should fix the remaining issues with vc2013, so that it compiles out of the box. I still have to start the compilation from the vc2013 command prompt. And we need docs on how to use CUDA 6.0 with this.

@JurgenHerrmann What about vc2012? ;)

Any updates here? We should fix the remaining issues with vc2013, so that it compiles out of the box. I still have to start the compilation from the vc2013 command prompt. And we need docs on how to use CUDA 6.0 with this. @JurgenHerrmann What about vc2012? ;)

Juergen Herrmann commented

2014-05-05 13:00:42 +02:00

Hi,

I dropped support for VS2012 in favor of VS2013.
So, yes, we can remove the VS2012 stuff in all parts of Blender except for cycles/cuda stuff.

Hi, I dropped support for VS2012 in favor of VS2013. So, yes, we can remove the VS2012 stuff in all parts of Blender except for cycles/cuda stuff.

Bastien Montagne commented

2014-05-20 16:13:03 +02:00

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Thomas Dinges commented

2014-05-27 07:54:08 +02:00

VS2012 code has been removed.

@MartijnBerger I still cannot build Blender with vc2013 from a regular cmd, have to launch it from the VC CMD (scons). Also I still hope for docs on how to use CUDA Toolkit 6.0. ;)

VS2012 code has been removed. @MartijnBerger I still cannot build Blender with vc2013 from a regular cmd, have to launch it from the VC CMD (scons). Also I still hope for docs on how to use CUDA Toolkit 6.0. ;)

Martijn Berger commented

2014-05-27 07:57:13 +02:00

@ThomasDinges http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/User:Juicyfruit/Cuda_windows this is howto setup cuda on windows to work with msvc 2013 or with mingw or another unsupported compiler.

On building from regular cmd I think we need to better patch scons to really support msvc 2013

@ThomasDinges http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/User:Juicyfruit/Cuda_windows this is howto setup cuda on windows to work with msvc 2013 or with mingw or another unsupported compiler. On building from regular cmd I think we need to better patch scons to really support msvc 2013

Thomas Dinges commented

2014-05-27 08:06:38 +02:00

Thanks, I did not know that wiki link. :)

Yeah, I guess so too, we could also wait for the next scons version, which afaik adds support for it.

Thanks, I did not know that wiki link. :) Yeah, I guess so too, we could also wait for the next scons version, which afaik adds support for it.

Martijn Berger commented

2014-08-06 08:49:55 +02:00

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Resolved'

Martijn Berger closed this issue

2014-08-06 08:49:55 +02:00

Martijn Berger self-assigned this 2014-08-06 08:49:55 +02:00

Martijn Berger commented

2014-08-06 08:49:55 +02:00

Even scons is updated.

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