Hair Kink Options not Following Object Rotation #43753

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opened 2015-02-20 18:42:09 +01:00 by Nathaniel Johnson · 12 comments

System Information
Windows 7 64-bit Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 2.40GHz

Blender Version
Broken: 2.73 b4d8fb5
Worked:

Short description of error
After enabling a "kink" option for either type of child hair particles, the child particles randomly rotate around their parent particles when the object is rotated.

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error

  1. add "simple" or "interpolated" child particles to a mesh
  2. enable a "kink" option
  3. rotate the object around, watching child particles
    Blend file:
    Hair_Kink_Rotation_Issue.blend
**System Information** Windows 7 64-bit Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 2.40GHz **Blender Version** Broken: 2.73 b4d8fb5 Worked: **Short description of error** After enabling a "kink" option for either type of child hair particles, the child particles randomly rotate around their parent particles when the object is rotated. **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** 1) add "simple" or "interpolated" child particles to a mesh 2) enable a "kink" option 3) rotate the object around, watching child particles Blend file: [Hair_Kink_Rotation_Issue.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F145008/Hair_Kink_Rotation_Issue.blend)

Changed status to: 'Open'

Changed status to: 'Open'

Added subscriber: @NathanielJohnson

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No problem with provided .blend under ubuntu 14.04 Blender 913e109

No problem with provided .blend under ubuntu 14.04 Blender 913e109
Lukas Tönne was assigned by Julian Eisel 2015-02-23 19:50:14 +01:00
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Hmm, I confirm some weird looking rotation. @LukasTonne, am I allowed to assign some hair bugs to you at least? ;)

Hmm, I confirm some weird looking rotation. @LukasTonne, am I allowed to assign some hair bugs to you at least? ;)
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Confirmed, this happens for the Curl and Wave modes. Probably similar to roughness issues we had in the gooseberry branch: Kink/roughness/blah features must only depend on ORCO coordinates of the child/parent, otherwise any deformation or transform of the object leads to a change in hair shape.

The code is quite horrible atm and totally not formalized. Any future system for generating hair must make sure the input coordinates are local and consistent for each hair, especially if we start using nodes and allow users to build their own shape constructors.

Confirmed, this happens for the `Curl` and `Wave` modes. Probably similar to roughness issues we had in the gooseberry branch: Kink/roughness/blah features must only depend on ORCO coordinates of the child/parent, otherwise any deformation or transform of the object leads to a change in hair shape. The code is quite horrible atm and totally not formalized. Any future system for generating hair must make sure the input coordinates are local and consistent for each hair, especially if we start using nodes and allow users to build their own shape constructors.
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Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Archived'

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Archived'
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Particles are broken, needs rewrite.

Particles are broken, needs rewrite.

Added subscriber: @Christoph-Feck

Added subscriber: @Christoph-Feck

This issue is reproducible with 2.83 and 2.90 in Curl and Wave kink types, but works correctly with Braid kink type. Maybe this helps someone trying a fix until the rewrite is merged.

This issue is reproducible with 2.83 and 2.90 in Curl and Wave kink types, but works correctly with Braid kink type. Maybe this helps someone trying a fix until the rewrite is merged.

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