Dope Sheet Bug, After Copy, Jump to Next Next Keframe, Paste the Copied Keyframe, Previous Selection Gone/Deselect #44362

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blen · 2015-04-12T13:35:15+02:00

blen commented

2015-04-12 13:35:15 +02:00

Dope Sheet Bug, After Copy, Jump to Next Next Keframe, Paste the Copied Keyframe, Previous Selection Gone/Deselect

CopyPastePreviousSelectionDeselect_Step1.blend
In "CopyPastePreviousSelectionDeselect_Step1.blend", Keyframe in Dope Sheet Copied,

CopyPastePreviousSelectionDeselect_Step2.blend
In "CopyPastePreviousSelectionDeselect_Step2.blend", Copied Keyframe Pasted in the third keyframe, causing the First & Second Keyframe Selection in "CopyPastePreviousSelectionDeselect_Step1.blend" being Deselect.

Thus I can't Copy, Paste, Copy Paste, Copy Paste, Copy Paste, to make a repetitive mesh movement animation.

Dope Sheet Bug, After Copy, Jump to Next Next Keframe, Paste the Copied Keyframe, Previous Selection Gone/Deselect [CopyPastePreviousSelectionDeselect_Step1.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F161178/CopyPastePreviousSelectionDeselect_Step1.blend) In "CopyPastePreviousSelectionDeselect_Step1.blend", Keyframe in Dope Sheet Copied, [CopyPastePreviousSelectionDeselect_Step2.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F161176/CopyPastePreviousSelectionDeselect_Step2.blend) In "CopyPastePreviousSelectionDeselect_Step2.blend", Copied Keyframe Pasted in the third keyframe, causing the First & Second Keyframe Selection in "CopyPastePreviousSelectionDeselect_Step1.blend" being Deselect. Thus I can't Copy, Paste, Copy Paste, Copy Paste, Copy Paste, to make a repetitive mesh movement animation.

blen commented

2015-04-12 13:35:15 +02:00

Changed status to: 'Open'

blen commented

2015-04-12 13:35:15 +02:00

Added subscribers: @Blendify, @Psy-Fi, @JulianEisel

Antonis Ryakiotakis commented

2015-04-12 15:17:35 +02:00

I can't confirm this, selection here stays in buffer even (no need to do second copy, just paste, jump jump is sufficient)

Antonis Ryakiotakis commented

2015-04-12 15:18:32 +02:00

Never set priority yourself, this is to be left to developers

blen commented

2015-04-12 17:59:21 +02:00

Added subscriber: @blender3dcg

blen commented

2015-04-12 17:59:21 +02:00

Blender 2.73

"3 keyframe"* copied, jump to third Keyframe, paste keyframe, first selection(3 keyframe) still selected. Then I can do Copy, Paste, Copy Paste, Copy Paste, Copy Paste, to create a repetitive animation.

Blender 2.74

"3 keyframe"* copied, jump to third Keyframe, paste keyframe, first selection(3 keyframe) no longer selected("3 keyframe"* deselected when ).

I have to jump jump paste, jump jump paste, jump jump paste, jump jump paste. Blender 2.74 is broken!

Blender 2.73 "3 keyframe"* copied, jump to third Keyframe, paste keyframe, first selection(3 keyframe) still selected. Then I can do Copy, Paste, Copy Paste, Copy Paste, Copy Paste, to create a repetitive animation. Blender 2.74 "3 keyframe"* copied, jump to third Keyframe, paste keyframe, first selection(3 keyframe) no longer selected("3 keyframe"* deselected when ). I have to jump jump paste, jump jump paste, jump jump paste, jump jump paste. Blender 2.74 is broken!

Joshua Leung was assigned by Antonis Ryakiotakis

2015-04-12 18:56:45 +02:00

Antonis Ryakiotakis commented

2015-04-12 18:56:45 +02:00

Added subscriber: @JoshuaLeung

Antonis Ryakiotakis commented

2015-04-12 18:56:45 +02:00

I still don't think this counts as a bug - rather previous state does not seem consistent with how the rest of duplication in the program works and this is more like complaining about having to press an extra A.

Anyway assigning to @JoshuaLeung for the final decision. Personally I would leave it as is, maybe set the current frame at the end of the duplicated frames to allow such easy copy-paste workflow.

By the way, you can set the extrapolation of an action to repeat in the action editor to create such repeating patterns easily.

I still don't think this counts as a bug - rather previous state does not seem consistent with how the rest of duplication in the program works and this is more like complaining about having to press an extra A. Anyway assigning to @JoshuaLeung for the final decision. Personally I would leave it as is, maybe set the current frame at the end of the duplicated frames to allow such easy copy-paste workflow. By the way, you can set the extrapolation of an action to repeat in the action editor to create such repeating patterns easily.

Antonis Ryakiotakis commented

2015-04-12 18:59:50 +02:00

I think this is apt for this report

https://xkcd.com/1172/

I think this is apt for this report https://xkcd.com/1172/

blen commented

2015-04-12 19:18:46 +02:00

From Blender 2.63 to Blender 2.73
Create 3 keyframe, select all of them, crtl C, jump to third keyframe, crtl V, then,

crtl C, crtl V, crtl C, crtl V, crtl C, crtl V, crtl C, crtl V.

No jumping multiple required.

Blender 2.74
Create 3 keyframe, select all of them, crtl C, jump to third keyframe, crtl V, then,

crtl C, crtl V, Jump Jump, crtl C, crtl V, Jump Jump, crtl C, crtl V, Jump Jump, crtl C, crtl V, Jump Jump.

Press A is not a Solution when I have hundreds of keyframe that I don't need to repeatedly copy over and over.

From Blender 2.63 to Blender 2.73 it works fine. In Blender 2.71 its broken, it got a Bug.

From Blender 2.63 to Blender 2.73 Create 3 keyframe, select all of them, crtl C, jump to third keyframe, crtl V, then, crtl C, crtl V, crtl C, crtl V, crtl C, crtl V, crtl C, crtl V. No jumping multiple required. Blender 2.74 Create 3 keyframe, select all of them, crtl C, jump to third keyframe, crtl V, then, crtl C, crtl V, Jump Jump, crtl C, crtl V, Jump Jump, crtl C, crtl V, Jump Jump, crtl C, crtl V, Jump Jump. Press A is not a Solution when I have hundreds of keyframe that I don't need to repeatedly copy over and over. From Blender 2.63 to Blender 2.73 it works fine. In Blender 2.71 its broken, it got a Bug.

blen commented

2015-04-12 20:10:16 +02:00

From Blender 2.63 to Blender 2.73 it works fine, Why break it in Blender 2.74?!

Antonis Ryakiotakis commented

2015-04-12 20:50:33 +02:00

Again - this is not a bug, it's a workflow that used to work - and not by default since you had to explicitly place the cursor at the final frame of the animation. and only worked for looping animations - so pretty much a very specific use case.

I will still let Aligorith decide on this but further complaints here add nothing more to the discussion.

Again - this is not a bug, it's a workflow that used to work - and not by default since you had to explicitly place the cursor at the final frame of the animation. and only worked for looping animations - so pretty much a very specific use case. I will still let Aligorith decide on this but further complaints here add nothing more to the discussion.

blen commented

2015-04-12 21:27:09 +02:00

"it's a workflow that used to work" means it works in 2.73. In 2.74 it doesn't work anymore?

"and not by default" what checkbox/button that enable/disable such function?

"you had to explicitly place the cursor at the final frame of the animation. and only worked for looping animations"
I created a mesh, clicked the timeline record button, I move the mesh, I go to frame 15, I move the mesh, I go to frame 30, Crtl C the first keyframe, Crtl V. I press A to select all frame, Crtl C, Crtl V, the First 2 keyframe automatically deselect. How to enable/disable Blender from Deselecting my keyframe selection?

"it's a workflow that used to work" means it works in 2.73. In 2.74 it doesn't work anymore? "and not by default" what checkbox/button that enable/disable such function? "you had to explicitly place the cursor at the final frame of the animation. and only worked for looping animations" I created a mesh, clicked the timeline record button, I move the mesh, I go to frame 15, I move the mesh, I go to frame 30, Crtl C the first keyframe, Crtl V. I press A to select all frame, Crtl C, Crtl V, the First 2 keyframe automatically deselect. How to enable/disable Blender from Deselecting my keyframe selection?

blen commented

2015-04-13 18:22:55 +02:00

It is a Bug, Blender 2.74 Dope Sheet got a Bug.

Julian Eisel commented

2015-04-13 19:02:38 +02:00

I agree that this doesn't seem to be a bug. The fact that it worked previously doesn't necessarily mean it's now broken. Like in this case it looks more like it used to work "by accident" so nobody ever coded this, it just behaved like this due to the architecture of code for other features.

blen commented

2015-04-13 21:30:36 +02:00

You could just say somebody broke it for other "features". It used to work, and somebody coded that. Blender 2.74 bugs my workflow very much, Blender 2.74 got a bug.

Antonis Ryakiotakis commented

2015-04-13 21:48:52 +02:00

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Archived'

Antonis Ryakiotakis closed this issue

2015-04-13 21:48:52 +02:00

Antonis Ryakiotakis commented

2015-04-13 21:48:52 +02:00

No problem, you can use 2.73 then.

You can use the action editor and the repeat feature of an action to create such repeating actions. This is not really a bug, and it can be done with one extra keystroke in between.

Closing unless aligorith wants to take a look, but this is more like a workflow/feature request than a bug.

No problem, you can use 2.73 then. You can use the action editor and the repeat feature of an action to create such repeating actions. This is not really a bug, and it can be done with one extra keystroke in between. Closing unless aligorith wants to take a look, but this is more like a workflow/feature request than a bug.

Julian Eisel commented

2015-04-13 22:01:51 +02:00

And again we can refer to this: https://xkcd.com/1172/ ;)

blen commented

2015-04-13 22:20:37 +02:00

How does "jump, jump, crtl V, border select, crtl C, jump, jump, crtl V, border select, crtl C, jump, jump, crtl V, border select, crtl C, jump, jump, crtl V" = "one extra keystroke". Pressing A is not an option.

"You can use the action editor and the repeat feature of an action to create such repeating actions", where is this "repeat feature" in the action editor?

How does "jump, jump, crtl V, border select, crtl C, jump, jump, crtl V, border select, crtl C, jump, jump, crtl V, border select, crtl C, jump, jump, crtl V" = "one extra keystroke". Pressing A is not an option. "You can use the action editor and the repeat feature of an action to create such repeating actions", where is this "repeat feature" in the action editor?

Antonis Ryakiotakis commented

2015-04-13 22:59:50 +02:00

This is not a support forum but...

Like this:

This is not a support forum but... Like this: ![step1.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F161671/step1.png) ![step2.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F161673/step2.png)

blen commented

2015-04-13 23:09:07 +02:00

Thank you very much...and how do I convert it into keyframe in Dope Sheet Action Editor?

Antonis Ryakiotakis commented

2015-04-13 23:24:30 +02:00

You can't apply action modifiers at the moment. A better workflow would be to duplicate keyframes in action editor (shift - D), move them to end of your frame range and then repeat last (shift - R) as many times as you want - even better than previous workflow, only one key combination to press. For some silly reason this is not supported but I'm pretty certain I can make this work.

blen commented

2015-04-13 23:47:05 +02:00

Or you could say this,

"Such function is unavailable in Blender 2.74. Please make a request If you want such function in future version of Blender."

then I say,

"I request such function to be available in future version of Blender, thank you very much"

Or you could say this, "Such function is unavailable in Blender 2.74. Please make a request If you want such function in future version of Blender." then I say, "I request such function to be available in future version of Blender, thank you very much"

blender-admin commented

2015-04-13 23:58:50 +02:00

This issue was referenced by 54c18d4849

This issue was referenced by 54c18d4849ccf1a97ba85ed30416d3639f4909ea

Antonis Ryakiotakis commented

2015-04-13 23:59:18 +02:00

Changed status from 'Archived' to: 'Resolved'

Antonis Ryakiotakis commented

2015-04-13 23:59:18 +02:00

Closed by commit 54c18d4849.

Closed by commit 54c18d4849.

Antonis Ryakiotakis commented

2015-04-14 00:06:34 +02:00

Solved this by adding support for duplication operator repeat.

Basically in the appended file you select your keyframes, do Shift-D, 30, enter. Then spam Shift-R. Works great, I'm sure you'll like it.

To get the final result of modifiers, there's the "bake action" operator (Use spacebar search to find it), but you get a keyframe per frame, might be more destructive than you'd like.

Solved this by adding support for duplication operator repeat. Basically in the appended file you select your keyframes, do Shift-D, 30, enter. Then spam Shift-R. Works great, I'm sure you'll like it. To get the final result of modifiers, there's the "bake action" operator (Use spacebar search to find it), but you get a keyframe per frame, might be more destructive than you'd like.

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Dope Sheet Bug, After Copy, Jump to Next Next Keframe, Paste the Copied Keyframe, Previous Selection Gone/Deselect #44362