Appending Specific Groups Doesn't Work #46827

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RDP RDP · 2015-11-20T17:48:18+01:00

RDP RDP commented

2015-11-20 17:48:18 +01:00

System Information
Windows 10
NVIDA GeForce GTX 980

Blender Version
Broken: 2.76b
Worked: 2.75a

Short description of error
When appending groups, certain groups will append, and certain groups will not append at all. No error message is displayed.

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error
Open blender
Shift+F1 to Append
Navigate to "Palm Tree (SERIES).blend"
Select "Group"
Select "Palm Tree Standard (spray\mist)" or "Palm Tree Swanky spray\mist"

Note:
Palm Tree (SERIES).blend
These groups share a lot of elements, so I thought maybe it was the emitters, since other groups in this file append properly, but the "Palm Tree Royale" has the same emitters as the two groups that do not work and it appends in properly.
Linking those groups does not work either. But copying them and pasting them into a new file does.
My coworker has the same problem and he is running on Windows 7.

**System Information** Windows 10 NVIDA GeForce GTX 980 **Blender Version** Broken: 2.76b Worked: 2.75a **Short description of error** When appending groups, certain groups will append, and certain groups will not append at all. No error message is displayed. **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** Open blender Shift+F1 to Append Navigate to "Palm Tree (SERIES).blend" Select "Group" Select "Palm Tree Standard (spray\mist)" or "Palm Tree Swanky spray\mist" *Note:* [Palm Tree (SERIES).blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F256413/Palm_Tree__SERIES_.blend) These groups share a lot of elements, so I thought maybe it was the emitters, since other groups in this file append properly, but the "Palm Tree Royale" has the same emitters as the two groups that do not work and it appends in properly. Linking those groups does not work either. But copying them and pasting them into a new file does. My coworker has the same problem and he is running on Windows 7.

RDP RDP commented

2015-11-20 17:48:18 +01:00

Changed status to: 'Open'

RDP RDP commented

2015-11-20 17:48:18 +01:00

Added subscriber: @rdp

Bastien Montagne commented

2015-11-20 19:54:07 +01:00

Added subscriber: @mont29

Bastien Montagne commented

2015-11-20 19:54:07 +01:00

Can you please try the latest build from our buildbot? Here on linux tried with current master, and all three groups append OK (afaikt)…

Can you please try the latest build from [our buildbot](https://builder.blender.org/download)? Here on linux tried with current master, and all three groups append OK (afaikt)…

Jeff H commented

2015-11-23 22:05:08 +01:00

Added subscriber: @gun4hire

Jeff H commented

2015-11-23 22:05:08 +01:00

Hi Bastien,

I am the aforementioned co-worker, and am familiar with the issue. Using the latest daily build does not fix the problem.

Hi Bastien, I am the aforementioned co-worker, and am familiar with the issue. Using the latest daily build does not fix the problem.

Bastien Montagne commented

2015-11-23 22:10:07 +01:00

In that case I need a better (more precise) description of the issue, and a simpler example .blend file, because with what I have so far everything seems to work OK.

Unless this is again a windows-only issue, but I do not see really how this could be here.

In that case I need a better (more precise) description of the issue, and a simpler example .blend file, because with what I have so far everything seems to work OK. Unless this is again a windows-only issue, but I do not see really how this could be here.

Jeff H commented

2015-11-23 22:47:27 +01:00

Hmm, what operating system are you testing in? I can try and test on Mac OSX later tonight.

Jeff H commented

2015-11-24 16:15:05 +01:00

Ok, I was able to test on a Mac OSX El Captain, and everything worked fine. No issue on Mac OSX.
This same Mac computer was able to run windows 10 via VM Ware. On the same Mac computer, in Windows, the "Palm Tree Standard (spray\mist)" group failed to append in. This is the 3rd windows computer that showed the issue.

Sorry, I didn't see your first post. So it sounds like there was no issue on Linux. It appears that this is indeed a Windows-only issue.

Ok, I was able to test on a Mac OSX El Captain, and everything worked fine. No issue on Mac OSX. This same Mac computer was able to run windows 10 via VM Ware. On the same Mac computer, in Windows, the "Palm Tree Standard (spray\mist)" group failed to append in. This is the 3rd windows computer that showed the issue. Sorry, I didn't see your first post. So it sounds like there was no issue on Linux. It appears that this is indeed a Windows-only issue.

Bastien Montagne commented

2015-11-24 16:23:14 +01:00

Well, that’s good and bad news… Good: looks indeed to be windows-specific. Bad: I have to go back to ugly VM again (hoping it will work with recent OGL specs raising even :/ ).

Thanks for checking and feedback.

Well, that’s good and bad news… Good: looks indeed to be windows-specific. Bad: I have to go back to ugly VM again (hoping it will work with recent OGL specs raising even :/ ). Thanks for checking and feedback.

Bastien Montagne commented

2015-11-24 17:22:49 +01:00

OK, issue confirmed on VM, investigating…

Bastien Montagne self-assigned this 2015-11-24 17:23:04 +01:00

Bastien Montagne commented

2015-11-24 17:52:38 +01:00

Ah… found the issue… You are using '/' in your group name - very very bad :P

Will try to see how to fix this, but afraid it won’t be that easy… :/

Ah… found the issue… You are using '/' in your group name - very **very** bad :P Will try to see how to fix this, but afraid it won’t be that easy… :/

RDP RDP commented

2015-11-24 17:54:30 +01:00

I did try to unlink the group, regroup it, and call it something else, but it still wouldn't work for me.

Bastien Montagne commented

2015-11-24 19:35:24 +01:00

You have to rename groups in lib file (here on win VM after renaming Palm Tree Swanky (spray/mist) to Palm Tree Swanky (spray_mist) I can append it with no problem).

The thing is, we 'windowsify' paths by replacing / with \ on Windows… That’s why you should never use / or \ in blender names, can create troubles when handled as pathnames.

You have to rename groups in lib file (here on win VM after renaming `Palm Tree Swanky (spray/mist)` to `Palm Tree Swanky (spray_mist)` I can append it with no problem). The thing is, we 'windowsify' paths by replacing `/` with `\` on Windows… That’s why you should never use / or \ in blender names, can create troubles when handled as pathnames.

Campbell Barton commented

2015-11-26 05:41:26 +01:00

Added subscriber: @ideasman42

Campbell Barton commented

2015-11-26 05:41:26 +01:00

This used to work (2.72 for eg), theres no need to apply path functions on data-block names (BLI_cleanup_file in filelist_readjob_do).

This used to work (2.72 for eg), theres no need to apply path functions on data-block names (`BLI_cleanup_file` in `filelist_readjob_do`).

blender-admin commented

2015-11-27 21:18:06 +01:00

This issue was referenced by da6578e647

This issue was referenced by da6578e647a749a464e524d3cfe8b11ac66c424f

Bastien Montagne commented

2015-11-27 21:19:10 +01:00

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Resolved'

Bastien Montagne closed this issue

2015-11-27 21:19:10 +01:00

Peter Boos commented

2015-11-28 13:53:19 +01:00

Added subscriber: @PeterBoos

Peter Boos commented

2015-11-28 13:53:20 +01:00

small note did you know for windows file path names you could use / as well, its some kind of compatibilty mode since the Dos age.
You might not need to do such conversions.

small note did you know for windows file path names you could use / as well, its some kind of compatibilty mode since the Dos age. You might not need to do such conversions.

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Appending Specific Groups Doesn't Work #46827