Video Sequencer Preview should have own engine (and other settings?) #53158

New Issue

Dalai Felinto · 2017-10-25T15:31:25+02:00

Dalai Felinto commented

2017-10-25 15:31:25 +02:00

For the end user that means they get to pick which engine to use for scene strip preview, as well other viewport settings to optimize draw time.

Right now the video sequencer Scene strip still has old "Draw Mode", and "Texture Solid". My suggestion would be to have a "ViewRender" struct in the Scene strip, and allow users to pick different viewport settings, just like we will do for workspaces.

For the end user that means they get to pick which engine to use for scene strip preview, as well other viewport settings to optimize draw time. Right now the video sequencer Scene strip still has old "Draw Mode", and "Texture Solid". My suggestion would be to have a "ViewRender" struct in the Scene strip, and allow users to pick different viewport settings, just like we will do for workspaces.

Dalai Felinto commented

2017-10-25 15:31:25 +02:00

Changed status to: 'Open'

Dalai Felinto commented

2017-10-25 15:31:25 +02:00

Added subscriber: @dfelinto

Aaron Carlisle commented

2017-10-25 15:57:39 +02:00

Added subscriber: @Blendify

Aaron Carlisle commented

2017-10-25 15:57:39 +02:00

+1

Campbell Barton commented

2017-10-27 06:30:55 +02:00

Added subscriber: @ideasman42

Campbell Barton commented

2017-10-27 06:30:55 +02:00

Am wondering if it would be annoying to have to select the engine per-strip.

It could for example - use the current scene's engine, with a checkbox to allow selecting a custom engine - for the times this is needed.

Note that in the future we probably disallow a scene using its self as a strip. so scenes used for the sequencer will likely not be used for rendering 3D view too. See: #52586

Am wondering if it would be annoying to *have* to select the engine per-strip. It could for example - use the current scene's engine, with a checkbox to allow selecting a custom engine - for the times this is needed. Note that in the future we probably disallow a scene using its self as a strip. so scenes used for the sequencer will likely not be used for rendering 3D view too. See: #52586

Dalai Felinto commented

2017-10-30 13:11:23 +01:00

@ideasman42 I like this, and this should probably be the default (imagine 20 strips and trying to tweak the volumetric sample of all of them and keep them in sync).

I wouldn't make it granular though. So you either manually set the engine and other ViewRender settings, or just use current scene (not strip scene)'s settings.

@ideasman42 I like this, and this should probably be the default (imagine 20 strips and trying to tweak the volumetric sample of all of them and keep them in sync). I wouldn't make it granular though. So you either manually set the engine and other ViewRender settings, or just use current scene (not strip scene)'s settings.

Danrae Pray commented

2017-11-01 14:23:49 +01:00

Added subscriber: @spockTheGray-4

Danrae Pray self-assigned this 2017-11-01 14:23:49 +01:00

Danrae Pray commented

2017-11-01 14:23:49 +01:00

Hi guys, just assigning this to me so other ppl know and we don't duplicate effort :)

Danrae Pray commented

2017-11-03 15:21:11 +01:00

Hey guys - ok, so it looks like right now the only engine it uses is Eevee and the settings are all out of wack atm in 2.8 (which seems like what you were saying here)... want to confirm a couple things with you in terms of requirements:

In my 2.78 testing, it looks like scene strip previews were always done using the selected scene's renderer (Blender or Cycles), not the current scene's settings. Now, we want it to be done using the current scene's engine settings by default, or allow them to select their own engine, in which case they need some preview settings available specific to whatever engines they choose. Does this jive with what you were thinking?
What other engines should optionally be available for preview??? Blender & Eevee + Cycles? Clay?
For the engines that need to be available, what settings (for each engine) do you think are appropriate to expose through the scene preview settings tab?

Hey guys - ok, so it looks like right now the only engine it uses is Eevee and the settings are all out of wack atm in 2.8 (which seems like what you were saying here)... want to confirm a couple things with you in terms of requirements: - In my 2.78 testing, it looks like scene strip previews were always done using the selected scene's renderer (Blender or Cycles), not the current scene's settings. Now, we want it to be done using the *current* scene's engine settings by default, or allow them to select their own engine, in which case they need some preview settings available specific to whatever engines they choose. Does this jive with what you were thinking? - What other engines should optionally be available for preview??? Blender & Eevee + Cycles? Clay? - For the engines that need to be available, what settings (for each engine) do you think are appropriate to expose through the scene preview settings tab?

Dalai Felinto commented

2017-11-05 10:03:36 +01:00

Does this jive with what you were thinking?

Yes.

What other engines should optionally be available for preview??? Blender & Eevee + Cycles? Clay?

Technically, all of them. Though I can see how the Game Engine shouldn't be used.

For the engines that need to be available, what settings (for each engine) do you think are appropriate to expose through the scene preview settings tab?

All the ViewRender settings, which at the moment means only the engine, but in the future it will include other options.

> - Does this jive with what you were thinking? Yes. > - What other engines should optionally be available for preview??? Blender & Eevee + Cycles? Clay? Technically, all of them. Though I can see how the Game Engine shouldn't be used. > - For the engines that need to be available, what settings (for each engine) do you think are appropriate to expose through the scene preview settings tab? All the ViewRender settings, which at the moment means only the engine, but in the future it will include other options.

Danrae Pray commented

2017-11-20 03:43:18 +01:00

Hi @dfelinto - I dropped patches for this and #52586. Let me know if you see anything I need to change!

Finally figured out how to tie revisions to tasks and add images to diff summaries lol, so I'm going to ditch the google doc approach for just adding relevant info to revision summary and tying it to the appropriate phab task...

Cheers,
Danrae

Hi @dfelinto - I dropped patches for this and #52586. Let me know if you see anything I need to change! Finally figured out how to tie revisions to tasks and add images to diff summaries lol, so I'm going to ditch the google doc approach for just adding relevant info to revision summary and tying it to the appropriate phab task... Cheers, Danrae

Danrae Pray commented

2017-11-20 15:22:34 +01:00

@dfelinto to add to my (updated) comment above about adding docs to revision summaries instead of google doc - I just realized I can edit the phab task summaries directly (learning new things everyday lol), so if that's OK with you guys - maybe I can just add details / pics to the actual task summaries instead moving forward?

Danrae Pray removed their assignment 2018-05-29 04:22:16 +02:00

Danrae Pray commented

2018-05-29 04:22:16 +02:00

Just bowing out of this one for now as it's been quiet on this topic and I know the core dev team is busy w/ code quest stuff atm. Cheers!

filip mond commented

2018-07-06 17:09:16 +02:00

Added subscriber: @FilipMond

Pierre Schiller commented

2018-08-29 20:09:21 +02:00

Added subscriber: @PierreSchiller

Pierre Schiller commented

2018-08-29 20:09:21 +02:00

I'm with @spockTheGray-4 on those points.
Definitely the VSE should be emphasized to work in a collaborative (remote/local network connected) link and append environment.
Tangent animation did the Bcon2014 on this. So it is definitely possible.

I'm with @spockTheGray-4 on those points. Definitely the VSE should be emphasized to work in a collaborative (remote/local network connected) link and append environment. Tangent animation did the Bcon2014 on this. So it is definitely possible.

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2019-05-23 03:48:16 +02:00

Added subscriber: @brecht

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2019-05-23 03:48:16 +02:00

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Resolved'

Brecht Van Lommel closed this issue

2019-05-23 03:48:16 +02:00

Brecht Van Lommel self-assigned this 2019-05-23 03:48:16 +02:00

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2019-05-23 03:48:16 +02:00

This has long been implemented now in 2.8, with a different design than originally proposed in this task.

tintwotin commented

2020-01-17 10:36:09 +01:00

Added subscriber: @tintwotin

tintwotin commented

2020-01-17 10:36:09 +01:00

Though this may be implemented, the current implementation makes playback of eevee rendered scene strips that slow, that they are not usable:

Though this may be implemented, the current implementation makes playback of eevee rendered scene strips that slow, that they are not usable: ![eevee_scene_strips.gif](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8282806/eevee_scene_strips.gif)

Andrea Monzini commented

2020-01-17 13:24:13 +01:00

Added subscriber: @AndreaMonzini

Sign in to join this conversation.

No Label

Download

What's New

Blender Studio

Manual

Developers Blog

Documentation

Benchmark

Blender Conference

Development Fund

One-time Donations

Video Sequencer Preview should have own engine (and other settings?) #53158