Collections - Cannot 'Unselect' and Too little buffer zone/space on bottom #63555

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Ahmad Bilal · 2019-04-13T06:39:11+02:00

Ahmad Bilal commented

2019-04-13 06:39:11 +02:00

System Information
Operating system: Windows 10 64bit
Graphics card: Vega RX64

Blender Version
Broken: 2.80, 009dbc2bc9, master, 2019-04-10, as found on the splash screen)
Worked: (optional)

Short description of error
I'm not sure if the reason is collapsing, but usually after I'm done editing the objects inside a collection I hide them and collapse the collection. But after that I cannot unselect the collection by clicking on empty space. I can select any other collection, but not being able to unselect 'all' of them makes adding new collection using the 'add new collection' icon on the top right troublesome as the new collection tends to get added inside a current selected collection instead of being parallel to it (outside of it). After I delete that mistakingly added collection (inside another) .. all collections are automatically unselected and I can now add a new collection outside of any other.

Issue 2:
Also when the space runs out in the window, there is too little space below the last collection in the visible part (before slider is added). Adding a new collection becomes troublesome again, I suggest increasing the buffer zone/space or whatever you call it.

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error
Based on the default startup or an attached .blend file (as simple as possible).

**System Information** Operating system: Windows 10 64bit Graphics card: Vega RX64 **Blender Version** Broken: 2.80, 009dbc2bc9fb, master, 2019-04-10, as found on the splash screen) Worked: (optional) **Short description of error** I'm not sure if the reason is collapsing, but usually after I'm done editing the objects inside a collection I hide them and collapse the collection. But after that I cannot unselect the collection by clicking on empty space. I can select any other collection, but not being able to unselect 'all' of them makes adding new collection using the 'add new collection' icon on the top right troublesome as the new collection tends to get added inside a current selected collection instead of being parallel to it (outside of it). After I delete that mistakingly added collection (inside another) .. all collections are automatically unselected and I can now add a new collection outside of any other. Issue 2: Also when the space runs out in the window, there is too little space below the last collection in the visible part (before slider is added). Adding a new collection becomes troublesome again, I suggest increasing the buffer zone/space or whatever you call it. **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** Based on the default startup or an attached .blend file (as simple as possible).

Ahmad Bilal commented

2019-04-13 06:39:11 +02:00

Added subscriber: @SomeAB

Sebastian Parborg commented

2019-04-14 13:38:59 +02:00

Added subscriber: @ZedDB

Sebastian Parborg commented

2019-04-14 13:38:59 +02:00

You can't really unselect anything by clicking on empty space in the outliner (at least for me). So I don't really see any difference in behavior from normal.

You can use the standard short cuts for deselection if you want to select the currently active collection. Or just right click in an empty space and add a new collection that way.

You can't really unselect anything by clicking on empty space in the outliner (at least for me). So I don't really see any difference in behavior from normal. You can use the standard short cuts for deselection if you want to select the currently active collection. Or just right click in an empty space and add a new collection that way.

Ahmad Bilal commented

2019-04-15 03:57:27 +02:00

WHA...TT!?

In other software as well as the intuitive feeling is this, that clicking in empty space should unselect everything. Blender does it for faces/etc selected in modelling viewport (edit mode), for example.

If what you say is true, then in that case please (REALLY PLEASE!) make that into the normal behavior. I mean yeah, I can use a shortcut (which I don't know is what).. but in 2.8, having a graphical way of doing it seems to be a common sense need (and I'm sure many other people feel that way as well). I mean suppose I'm using my mouse to select a layer, I selected the wrong layer by accident, then I quickly click on the empty space to unselect it, instead of reaching out to my keyboad (which takes more time). You can see in the OP, the other problem this is causing.

WHA...TT!? In other software as well as the intuitive feeling is this, that clicking in empty space should unselect everything. Blender does it for faces/etc selected in modelling viewport (edit mode), for example. If what you say is true, then in that case please (REALLY PLEASE!) make that into the normal behavior. I mean yeah, I can use a shortcut (which I don't know is what).. but in 2.8, having a graphical way of doing it seems to be a common sense need (and I'm sure many other people feel that way as well). I mean suppose I'm using my mouse to select a layer, I selected the wrong layer by accident, then I quickly click on the empty space to unselect it, instead of reaching out to my keyboad (which takes more time). You can see in the OP, the other problem this is causing.

Sebastian Parborg commented

2019-04-15 17:13:02 +02:00

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Archived'

Sebastian Parborg closed this issue

2019-04-15 17:13:02 +02:00

Sebastian Parborg self-assigned this 2019-04-15 17:13:02 +02:00

Sebastian Parborg commented

2019-04-15 17:13:02 +02:00

The shortcut for deselecting is alt+a.

The outliner is still work in progress. However the current behavior is not a bug. Suggestions about changed behavior and feature requests goes to: https://blender.community/c/rightclickselect

The shortcut for deselecting is alt+a. The outliner is still work in progress. However the current behavior is not a bug. Suggestions about changed behavior and feature requests goes to: https://blender.community/c/rightclickselect

Ahmad Bilal commented

2019-04-16 02:49:04 +02:00

@ZedDB : Ok thanks about the part. But it is 'very' annoying to me to have to use alt+a, instead of just clicking empty space.

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Collections - Cannot 'Unselect' and Too little buffer zone/space on bottom #63555