Visibility problems in Edit mode - Solid view #67484

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YAFU · 2019-07-23T04:09:25+02:00

YAFU commented

2019-07-23 04:09:25 +02:00

System Information
Operating system: Linux-5.0.1-050001-generic-x86_64-with-debian-buster-sid 64 Bits
Graphics card: GeForce GTX 960/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 430.26

Blender Version
Broken: version: 2.80 (sub 74), branch: master, commit date: 2019-07-18 14:52, hash: 38d4483c6a
Worked: (optional)

Short description of error
In this first file:
viewport_edit mode.blend
It is really difficult to distinguish that the front vertex is selected (that marked under the blue circle). In the other vertices it is also difficult to distinguish which of the vertices are in front or which are behind.

In this other file:
viewport_edit mode_1.blend
On the left, in Vertex select mode the edges coinciding with the blue Z and red X axis are almost invisible. On the right, in that view two of the vertices selected in front appear as not selected. The same in Edge select mode.

**System Information** Operating system: Linux-5.0.1-050001-generic-x86_64-with-debian-buster-sid 64 Bits Graphics card: GeForce GTX 960/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 430.26 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 2.80 (sub 74), branch: master, commit date: 2019-07-18 14:52, hash: `38d4483c6a` Worked: (optional) **Short description of error** In this first file: [viewport_edit mode.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F7623814/viewport_edit_mode.blend) It is really difficult to distinguish that the front vertex is selected (that marked under the blue circle). In the other vertices it is also difficult to distinguish which of the vertices are in front or which are behind. In this other file: [viewport_edit mode_1.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F7623817/viewport_edit_mode_1.blend) On the left, in Vertex select mode the edges coinciding with the blue Z and red X axis are almost invisible. On the right, in that view two of the vertices selected in front appear as not selected. The same in Edge select mode.

YAFU commented

2019-07-23 04:09:25 +02:00

Added subscriber: @YAFU

YAFU commented

2019-07-23 13:19:44 +02:00

By the way, I think it's not good that vertices in front are less prominent and less visible than those at the back in those views in Ortho view. This really makes work difficult. This is working in the opposite way to what it did in 2.79. Not sure if this is by intentional design or a bug.

Edit:
And apparently in Blender 2.8 the behavior seems to depend on Viewpoint, Front is different to Back and Top is different to Botton. I expected Top view to behave like Front, but apparently it is reversed there.
Anyway I clarify that in the original post of the report, when I say "Front", I refer to the side closest to the user, regardless of which Viewpoint we are. In 2.79 it seems that this is not viewpoint dependent, and always vertices closer to the user are always more prominent than the farthest vertices, and I think that is how it should work.

By the way, I think it's not good that vertices in front are less prominent and less visible than those at the back in those views in Ortho view. This really makes work difficult. This is working in the opposite way to what it did in 2.79. Not sure if this is by intentional design or a bug. Edit: And apparently in Blender 2.8 the behavior seems to depend on Viewpoint, Front is different to Back and Top is different to Botton. I expected Top view to behave like Front, but apparently it is reversed there. Anyway I clarify that in the original post of the report, when I say "Front", I refer to the side closest to the user, regardless of which Viewpoint we are. In 2.79 it seems that this is not viewpoint dependent, and always vertices closer to the user are always more prominent than the farthest vertices, and I think that is how it should work.

Sebastian Parborg commented

2019-07-24 15:55:22 +02:00

Added subscriber: @ZedDB

Sebastian Parborg commented

2019-07-24 15:55:22 +02:00

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Archived'

Sebastian Parborg closed this issue

2019-07-24 15:55:22 +02:00

Sebastian Parborg self-assigned this 2019-07-24 15:55:22 +02:00

Sebastian Parborg commented

2019-07-24 15:55:22 +02:00

This is a limitation of the new viewport render engine. It might be possible to fix, but it is not thing that we will actively look into.

YAFU commented

2019-07-24 16:30:27 +02:00

Hi Sebastian.
I understand that my report may not have been clear because I started with issues that can be considered as design/limitations. Just in case to make it clear that you saw the last case, the verices closest to the user in Front viewpoint are selected, but they look unselected

This gets even worse if you switch to Back viewpoint and you want to choose one of the three vertices closest to the user in that view.

Otherwise, I hope that view in Ortho view for modelers will have more attention in future releases.
Thank you.

Hi Sebastian. I understand that my report may not have been clear because I started with issues that can be considered as design/limitations. Just in case to make it clear that you saw the last case, the verices closest to the user in Front viewpoint are selected, but they look unselected ![edit_mode.jpg](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F7626716/edit_mode.jpg) This gets even worse if you switch to Back viewpoint and you want to choose one of the three vertices closest to the user in that view. Otherwise, I hope that view in Ortho view for modelers will have more attention in future releases. Thank you.

Sebastian Parborg removed their assignment 2019-07-24 17:51:40 +02:00

Clément Foucault was assigned by Sebastian Parborg

2019-07-24 17:51:40 +02:00

Sebastian Parborg commented

2019-07-24 17:51:40 +02:00

Fine, you win ;)
(This makes otho view quite useless so it should be fixed)

Fine, you win ;) (This makes otho view quite useless so it should be fixed)

Sebastian Parborg commented

2019-07-24 17:52:07 +02:00

Changed status from 'Archived' to: 'Open'

Sebastian Parborg reopened this issue

2019-07-24 17:52:07 +02:00