Pose Mode: Manipulator still visible for locked channels #70723

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opened 2019-10-11 05:26:41 +02:00 by Wayne Dixon · 6 comments

System Information
Operating system: Darwin-17.2.0-x86_64-i386-64bit 64 Bits
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti OpenGL Engine NVIDIA Corporation 4.1 NVIDIA-10.27.6 378.10.10.10.20.109

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Broken: version: 2.81 (sub 14), branch: master, commit date: 2019-10-10 23:31, hash: f9cc51788b
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Short description of error
When the channels are locked for any bone in pose mode, the Manipulator gizmo handles do not disable when the channels are locked.
(like they do in object mode)

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error
See video and file

Add armature
Enable manipulators
Enter pose mode
Lock any transform channel

The manipulator does not respect the locked channels...silly manipulator.

manipulator_still_visible_with_locked_channels.blend

blender_bug_LOCKED_CHANNELS.mp4

**System Information** Operating system: Darwin-17.2.0-x86_64-i386-64bit 64 Bits Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti OpenGL Engine NVIDIA Corporation 4.1 NVIDIA-10.27.6 378.10.10.10.20.109 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 2.81 (sub 14), branch: master, commit date: 2019-10-10 23:31, hash: `f9cc51788b` Worked: (optional) **Short description of error** When the channels are locked for any bone in pose mode, the Manipulator gizmo handles do not disable when the channels are locked. (like they do in object mode) **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** See video and file Add armature Enable manipulators Enter pose mode Lock any transform channel The manipulator does not respect the locked channels...silly manipulator. [manipulator_still_visible_with_locked_channels.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F7804436/manipulator_still_visible_with_locked_channels.blend) [blender_bug_LOCKED_CHANNELS.mp4](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F7804437/blender_bug_LOCKED_CHANNELS.mp4)
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Added subscriber: @WayneDixon

Added subscriber: @WayneDixon
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Ok so I did a little more playing around with this and I don't think it's actually a bug with Pose Mode but rather how the manipulator displays and operates.

I have "Global" enabled in the transform orientation.
So that is why it hides the locked channels in object mode.
If it is set to "local" in pose mode it will work as expected, in pose mode.

However the way it works still leads to some undesired results.

more_manipulator.mp4

The manipulator does not match what is possible in the viewport, if that makes sense.

Ok so I did a little more playing around with this and I don't think it's actually a bug with Pose Mode but rather how the manipulator displays and operates. I have "Global" enabled in the transform orientation. So that is why it hides the locked channels in object mode. If it is set to "local" in pose mode it will work as expected, in pose mode. However the way it works still leads to some undesired results. [more_manipulator.mp4](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F7804606/more_manipulator.mp4) The manipulator does not match what is possible in the viewport, if that makes sense.
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Added subscriber: @JulianEisel

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This was an intentional change, see 1857aa32bd. Rationale being exactly what you figured out, the locks may apply to a different space than the one shown by the manipulator.
One tweak we could do is to hide the mainpulator entirely if all axes are locked, regardeless of the spaces.

We could make it so that the lock space follows the visible space, but animators here in the studio were quite against that.

This was an intentional change, see 1857aa32bd. Rationale being exactly what you figured out, the locks may apply to a different space than the one shown by the manipulator. One tweak we could do is to hide the mainpulator entirely if all axes are locked, regardeless of the spaces. We could make it so that the lock space follows the visible space, but animators here in the studio were quite against that.
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Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Archived'

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Archived'
Julian Eisel self-assigned this 2019-10-11 11:43:45 +02:00
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Closing as this was an intentional design change.
Thanks for the report nevertheless.

Closing as this was an intentional design change. Thanks for the report nevertheless.
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